red1chq3 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Posted September 10, 2009 I am offering again 3 2008 late bred pigeons, and all I ask is that if you are interested then show that your intrested if not, i would ask you to please leave the thread alone The first two are nest mates and are direct children (cock and hen) of "MANEATER" a direct son of the "KANABUALL" from Kees Bousa, "KANABUAAL" and his father "FIGO" sold for approx 180,000 euros, when "MANEATER" was paired to a Willy Van Herk hen who was a club an section NIPA winner The third bird is a cock and a direct son of "AMERICAN ACE" and "SYNDICATE BRITANNIA", "AMERICAN ACE" was ace bird in the 2003 Europa classic (his son was also ace bird in the europa classic a couple of years later), and "SYDNICATE BRITINNIA" was joint winner of the VAGAS CLASIC winning approx $7500. These thee brids have never been bread from and are being sold due to me concentrating on my own family, of which I achived in my first year back racing 1st club, 1st 2 bird club, 1st sale bird, 2nd section and 2nd open 23,000 birds winning over £800. The bidding on these 3 birds will start at £100 each, regards
red1chq3 Posted September 14, 2009 Author Report Posted September 14, 2009 Just a wee update , I am led to belive the winner of this years Europa classic was a grandson of Kees Bosua's "KANABAAL", a recommendation if ever there there was one, remember these birds have never been bred from, regards.
red1chq3 Posted September 14, 2009 Author Report Posted September 14, 2009 Surely boys and girls the breading of these 3 birds constituits a bid of sorts??, think of what the parents would cost you to buy!!
Roland Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 Red I see the opening bids are to be £100. No problem there then. I am suprised a mite with your following quote of .... quote=2150 Surely boys and girls the breading of these 3 birds constituits a bid of sorts??, think of what the parents would cost you to buy!! :-/ :-/ Does that mean you are inviting opening bids?
red1chq3 Posted September 15, 2009 Author Report Posted September 15, 2009 Tell me Roland, In your opinion what, based on there breding do you reckon there worth??, and what would you expect to pay from one of the studs??, I would appricate your input, regards.
red1chq3 Posted September 15, 2009 Author Report Posted September 15, 2009 Just a wee update, weekend past I was 2nd club, 7th section & 64th open from the NIPA ROSCARBERY NATIONAL, REGARDS.
Roland Posted September 15, 2009 Report Posted September 15, 2009 Think they are worth more granted. Believe - personally - when the starting price is a bit steepish for most, we have two scenario's. Those that can afford comfortablely have already bought good priced pigeons, and though always on the look for a good cross, many have already an idea where and what they want. Which leaves those wanting a 'Good buy' (Naturely) looking for a bargain. The hardest part is then to get them to dip their feet in and feel the water. £50 would most likely have brought a swift response. Then like chicken scratching in the farm yard a crowd quickly forms. They will tempt themselves and go that little bit higher... The worst scenario is then of course not exceeding the £100 mark via very much. But the bid has to start somewhere, and hopefully raises the price merited. Yes agree it may well be the price warrented, not achieved may leave the taste in the mouth of 'If I thought that was all they would fetch I'd never have sold them.... indeed worth more at home'! Dammd if you do and dammed perhaps if you don't. That is my honest take of it. Nigh everyone, naturually, wants to hopefully raise the standard in their' loft... most have to wiegh up the cost to their' purse. (70%) I'd say. which still leaves 30% (12,000) that are able to snatch your hand off. But down to about 60 - 100 tops on here that can afford to start at a £100 JMO
Guest Davy Fleming Posted September 15, 2009 Report Posted September 15, 2009 Can't really understand why birds that are supposedly worth so much in there breeding are on site for sale in the first instance . Certainly not saying they are not worth it but just the fact that someone can put them up for sale at this price . Can only say you must have some fantastic birds in your loft that you want to concentrate on your own rather than these with there bloodlines . You must be a lucky guy
red1chq3 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Report Posted September 16, 2009 Thanks Roland i really appricate your comments, and duely noted, its hard to put an exacte price on anything really, i am confident that if they were offered by the big studs there asking price would indeed exceed £250/£300 each. Yes I have done well, indeed very well considering its my first full year back at the young birds, i suppose like a lot of us I have overstocked and need to cut back to concentrate on my principle family, these are genuine birds on over here otherwise i would not be trying to dsell them, i know your not saying there not i am justyfying my reasons for selling, again your comments have been noted, regards.
red1chq3 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Report Posted September 16, 2009 Photo of the two KANABAAL grandchildren
red1chq3 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Report Posted September 16, 2009 folks these need to be sold, so someone make me a decent offer for the three of them, as a job lot, regards
Guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 Will 200 pound buy them,as i have been asked to try for some one these are not for me :'(
red1chq3 Posted September 17, 2009 Author Report Posted September 17, 2009 Lets cut to the chase, I'll take £400 for the three of them as 1 lot, thats next to buying two and getting one free, regards.
Guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 Lets cut to the chase, I'll take £400 for the three of them as 1 lot, thats next to buying two and getting one free, regards. :-/ You have moved the goal post mate,starting bid was 100 pound each so that would be 300 pounds 4 the three SO IM OUT :'(
red1chq3 Posted September 17, 2009 Author Report Posted September 17, 2009 :-/ You have moved the goal post mate,starting bid was 100 pound each so that would be 300 pounds 4 the three SO IM OUT :'( The goalposts have not moved at all, yes I asked the biding to START at £100, THAT DIDN'T MEAN THEY WERE GOING TO STOP AT A HUNDRED, ALL I HAVE DONE IS SET A , WHAT I FEEL, FAIR PRICE FOR THE 3 OFF THEM, DO YOU THINK ITS A FAIR PRICE FOR BIRDS THIS WAY BRED ?? I KNOW I WOULD IF IT WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR, REGARDS.
BLACK W F Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 was John Gerrard not selling for between£75 and £100 for gchildren
Guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 The goalposts have not moved at all, yes I asked the biding to START at £100, THAT DIDN'T MEAN THEY WERE GOING TO STOP AT A HUNDRED, ALL I HAVE DONE IS SET A , WHAT I FEEL, FAIR PRICE FOR THE 3 OFF THEM, DO YOU THINK ITS A FAIR PRICE FOR BIRDS THIS WAY BRED ?? I KNOW I WOULD IF IT WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR, REGARDS. :-/ im not knocking you,the birds or the starting price i was asked to give you a bid and thats what i did,then you come back and say you wont 400 pounds for the three but your starting price was 100 pound each,so if my friend put a bid in for the starting price and no one else bid would you have sold them :-/ hope the sale goes well as i think these birds are very well bred .
red1chq3 Posted September 17, 2009 Author Report Posted September 17, 2009 was John Gerrard not selling for between£75 and £100 for gchildren I dout you would get g/children from the KANABAAL for £75/£100 ceryinatly not from a stud, regards.
BANDIT Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT OF VIEWS FOR THIS THREAD OVER 1100,I DONT THINK MANY PEOPLE ARE BUYING AT THE MOMENT,INDEED THEY ARE VERY WELL BRED BUT YOU WILL ONLY GET WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO PAY, MONEY IS TIGHT AT THE MOMENT GOOD LOOK WITH SELLING THEM.
BLACK W F Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 john gerard was advertising these lines early in the season and end of last not 100 p c sure but think they where g children they are good lines no doubt but only worth what people want to pay we are in a resesion and money tight a lot more will lose there jobs before finished
Albear Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 Surely it's up to the seller to start off at a price he thinks appropriate. The market will tell him if he's right. No bids suggests he was wrong.
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