RPRA

[shiftty]

the rpra have suffered lots of criticism over the past years for the way they have handeled certain matters (certainley in my area and many areas over the england i know of).

 

however i think peter bryant and the rest of rpra have been absoultely brilliant especially in fighting constantly in an on going battle with defra on getting the go ahead to race from france.

 

i also would like to point out that he never fails to report on even the slighest detail on his case with defra in the BHW and on the rpra website.

 

i think peter bryant certainly doesnt get the credit he deserves, and persoanlly i think we would be lost in the sport without peter and several other members of the rpra for always fighting issues raised that may potentially cause som uproar in england.

 

this may however, not be the case with were you are racing and the members of the federation and clubs were you are living may well be with the same opinion as me.

i was just wondering what the members of the forum think and if they share the same opinion as me??

 

cheers

[THE FIFER]

THE RPRA DONE A GOOD JOB THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE BIRD FLU PROBLEM. AND KEPT US INFORMED WELL.

[fifestay]

I agree with Rose I dont think the RPRA are consistant enough, are rather lightweight dont do enough campaigning, dont have a grasp of the media promotion and marketing. They also seem devoid of ideas regarding securing the future of the sport and wont take on the RSPB etc

[mealybar]

... dont do enough campaigning, dont have a grasp of the media promotion and marketing. They also seem devoid of ideas regarding securing the future of the sport and wont take on the RSPB etc

 

My experience being a member of the NEHU and the RPRA (cant comment on the others), the latter do a million times more than anyone else; but as with everything they could be doing more - a lot more. Nevermind reading in the fancy press about raising national subs, £4.50 RPRA subs is a joke really, its a wonder they can do what they do do!

[Guest shadow]

The RPRA do a very good job with the limited facilieties they have as for delay in the website updating that is down to the people who run the website most of the time .  I think its time the subs were raised to a reasonable level to fund employing PR staff etc to help the manager run the union who has enough to do taking care of the day to day management.

[fifestay]

Yip 4.50 wont buy a packet of ciggies !!! raising the subs may give them the means to employ folk with expert skills in media and marketing ...if you think what it costs for golf or other clubs very cheap

[ALF]

I think the subs for any organisation should be a tenner at least!!!

[btndvd]

I would agree with the subs going upto a tenner but they would have to do alot more first of all. To justify to me that it is worth the money. A tenner isnt alot of money but the money if it was well spent could do alot of things to the sport. Eg Each year invest so much of the money into the fedaration transporters. I know that the transporters are privatly owned but if we could advertise the sport then I feel this would help.

When we do things for charities, People are never told that it was the pigeon blokes and gals that raised the money. Dont get me wrong its in the rpra and the bwh but you never see it in the national paper or on the tv. Y is this.

Another way that the rpra could make money is to make a percentage on people that are selling there birds from aboard( I mean sales)

[rlez]

the rpra are not worth a w---k all that money in the bank and how better off are we.too many small feds some clubs sending 20 birds with only 3 members too many clubs calling themselfs nationals.why do we need the rpra for them to say before you can race you have to join us.Fat cats getting fatter and a job for the boys.(it must be the time of the month for a moan)

[Guest shadow]

the rpra are not worth a w---k all that money in the bank and how better off are we.too many small feds some clubs sending 20 birds with only 3 members too many clubs calling themselfs nationals.why do we need the rpra for them to say before you can race you have to join us.Fat cats getting fatter and a job for the boys.(it must be the time of the month for a moan)

 

AND WHO WOULD ORGANISE ALL THE LIBERATIONS ETC IT WOULD BE FARCICAL NEVER HEARD SO MUCH RUBBISH IN MY LIFE

 

 

[Tony C]

Dwindling membership but still the same amount of officers/regions doesn't equate. Do we need all these regions? Why so many? :-/

 

£10,000 Rose that's a lot of our money going to the chosen few for a jolly up at Blackpool. >

[THE FIFER]

I AGREE WITH SHADOW, U COULD'NT RUN WITHOUT ANY UNION, WHO WOULD SETTLE ALL THE ARGUMENTS, IT WOULD BE NO GOOD HAVING ALL THE CLUBS HAVING A GO AT DEFRA ETC, THEY WOULD JUST NOT LISTEN, U MUST HAVE A GOVERNING BODY.

[Guest]

Just sit back and ask yourselves, where would horse racing be without the Jockey Club and where would the dog fraternity be without the Kennel Club, every sport whether it be with animals or athletics boxing, golf etc etc you name it, there has to be a governing body.

 

And what precisely is 10 quid a year to be a member of your sports governing body, 4 or five pints to decent lager ??????

 

Sports such as ours is run mostly by people giving their free time, so what if they do get free accomodation at Blackpool, maybe a small reward for the hours they put in on your behalf,  if you don't like the politics or way things are run, then it is up to you to step up to the plate, but be prepared to put many hours of your free time in, for the benefit of the members and the the good of the sport in general

[johno]

why a tenner and not twenty or fifty. if subs need to go ip their shuld be a reason and a budget forcast to show why. to many others pull figures out the air. the money of the members is used like confetti all to often. if we need money then we shuld be clear what we need it for.

[collect500]

The RPRA and Peter Bryant plus the others represented did a marvellous job for all pigeon men/women.

 

To enter into debate with any goverment office of unelected people and expect concern for minority groups you have to live in ga-ga land

Defra showed how much they are concerned about pigeons with their stupid proposal of vaccination at £2 per bird they also ignored all vetinary evidence that showed pigeons risk capability,s to be lower than a snakes belly by useing a "risk assessment" that if it concerned a private company the courts would in all probability have granted compensation to said firm.

having read the debates in BHW and comments about P. Bryant not being upto the job cos he doesn,t keep birds i think next year we should shoot him cos he ain,t got rid of all the hawks. He is paid for his managerial skills not his bird keeping skills

                              keith

[dandydoo]

They stilll should be doing a bit more ....How many Thousands do the RPRA get from the BHW per month

 

Answers on a Postcard please to ............

You will then go into a prizederaw with a Hundred otheres for a free trip to Blackpool.

 

Anyone running a book on how long ot will take for a breakaway Union to form in opposition to the RPRA ...but its OK Guys just walk ....they dont mind who you fly with if your debt suspended ....OR WILL THEY :o :o :o

[johno]

it is bewildering how some posters continually lurk around the fringes attempting to have a say in affairs of organisations which have nothing to do with them. it is also bewildering when you see that they have no input or suggestions regarding their own organisations performance. is this just poor sportmanship? or is it a vain attempt to convince themselves that all is well in the homelands. we would do well to tend to our own affairs and let others do the same.

[Mike Lycett]

Not sure today's report in the Mirror is good stuff ?

[Guest Paulo]

Just sit back and ask yourselves, where would horse racing be without the Jockey Club and where would the dog fraternity be without the Kennel Club, every sport whether it be with animals or athletics boxing, golf etc etc you name it, there has to be a governing body.

 

And what precisely is 10 quid a year to be a member of your sports governing body, 4 or five pints to decent lager ??????

 

Sports such as ours is run mostly by people giving their free time, so what if they do get free accomodation at Blackpool, maybe a small reward for the hours they put in on your behalf,  if you don't like the politics or way things are run, then it is up to you to step up to the plate, but be prepared to put many hours of your free time in, for the benefit of the members and the the good of the sport in general

 

Couldn't agree more

 

 

[Henrik]

See Old Tentears is back having a go in the BHW bout the Confederation and the Questions being asked about suspended SHU members who have been welcomed with open arms into the Cumbria Region by Mr Blacklock,then the reply from Peter Bryant who goes on to say that in his investigations Mr Blacklock could find no suspended members who were admitted to the RPRA. I would suggest that Mr Bryant and Mr Blacklock look no further than the letters page of this weeks BHW just above where Mr Bryant put these comments to find that Mr Waters is currently suspended for 10yrs from the SHU.

[johno]

why was he suspended for tenyears Henrik. did he assault someone. did he cheat. were the police involved. did he threaten anyone with violence. did he burn someone out. did he steal or kill someone elses pigeons. ten years seems a long time. I would assume that the rpra if made aware of the circumstances would look into this. this guy must have done something terribly wrong. tell us what it was henrick. i am sure when the facts are placed in front of reasonable people thay will support your feelings. this guy must have done one of the worst things ever done in scottish pigeon racing. come on henrick let us know.

[dandydoo]

it is bewildering how some posters continually lurk around the fringes attempting to have a say in affairs of organisations which have nothing to do with them. it is also bewildering when you see that they have no input or suggestions regarding their own organisations performance. is this just poor sportmanship? or is it a vain attempt to convince themselves that all is well in the homelands. we would do well to tend to our own affairs and let others do the same.

 

Listen Johno ten tears whatever ... I will say and post what i like when I like so you keep being bewildered and I will keep lurking

yada yada yada

[me]

"Mr Waters is currently suspended for 10yrs from the SHU." - Henwyck

 

this sounds serious what did he do murder somebody at the clock checking?

[johno]

dandydoo you can lurk or do as you please. the bhw clearly pointed out that the rpra will run its own show. openly fairly and in line with the wishes of the membership. other organisations can make their own arrangements.

[fifestay]

So Johno, what you are saying is that the RPRA membership are happy to have people that are suspended race with them ....Read Peter Bryant's comments carefully and yer rule book and you will see the RPRA rules state. Anyway who cares that is a matter for the RPRA....ooh er noticed how they are bringing in ETS .....and that everyone agrees with it .

 

No members of ANY union are TOTALLY happy with ALL the decisions taken..... so you telling me those that left SHU becos of ETS are NOW happy with its introduction by the RPRA?

Wanting a bet on another Union starting in England along with the others already there?

Bottom end is ....whether your anti ETS or not there are very little choices

so you gotta ask yourself what was all that about then   :o :o