whose rules

[Guest WINGS 04]

homer is this so it helps one of the boys what if it was some one you did not like would this still be  the same

[THE FIFER]

Hi

Lanarkshire fed rule 33 Quote,

Dual membership with other federations will invalidate membership of Lanarkshire Federation Only members holding dual membership in 1986/1987 will be accepted

Clubs applying as new members must comply with this rule within twelve months of acceptance or acceptance becomes invalid

This rule was introduced by past president Mr A Thomson. I was at the meeting and voted for it At that time some members from other Feds namely South Lanarkshire held dual membership with Lanarkshire Some of these members competed weekly in SL but flew in Lanarkshire for our Open races where the big money was To this day there are several members who hold dual membership

This was 20 years ago when SL members where a force to be reckoned with and I did object to paying weekly for birdage with no prize money so the open races could pay bumper prize money

My own opion now on this rule is that is outdated and should be binned

Cheers and a merry XMAS

Homer 49

 

was the rule ok by the shu,

 

 

[HOMER49]

 

was the rule ok by the shu,

 

 

Hi

Yes it was passed by SHU

Cheers and a merry XMAS

hOMER 49

 

[Guest WINGS 04]

 

Hi

Yes it was passed by SHU

Cheers and a merry XMAS

hOMER 49

 

who was the shu president then ???

[THE FIFER]

 

Hi

Yes it was passed by SHU

Cheers and a merry XMAS

hOMER 49

 

then its a fed rule.

 

 

[HOMER49]

homer is this so it helps one of the boys what if it was some one you did not like would this still be  the same

 

Hi RAB

YES it would be

My opion on this rule changed a few years ago

The rule is flawed Rab before 86 your in after your out

Cheers and a merry XMAS

Homer 49

 

[HOMER49]

 

then its a fed rule.

 

 

Hi Fifer

Yes it is but read the start again DUAL MEMBERSHIP WITH OTHER FEDERATION WILL INVALIDATE MEMBERSHIP OF LF

So you can join another fed but you have to leave LF within 12 months

Cheers and a merry XMAS

Homer 49

 

[Guest WINGS 04]

HOMER YOU AND I NO THAT YOU CAN'T JUST CHANCH RULES FOR THE FEW I THINK THIS HAS CAME BACK TO HURT THE SHU

[HOMER49]

 

who was the shu president then ???

Hi Rab

Dont know

Cheers and a merry XMAS

Homer 49

 

 

[HOMER49]

HOMER YOU AND I NO THAT YOU CAN'T JUST CHANCH RULES FOR THE FEW I THINK THIS HAS CAME BACK TO HURT THE SHU

Hi Rab

This rule would need to be changed at a LF agm

I dont like the West route LF decided at race progam meeting in 2002 or 2003

for the West route I applied to SLF who flew the East route

The Foot and mouth came and LF went back down the East

This is called freedom of choice

Cheers and a merry Xmas

Homer 49

 

 

[johno]

the situation at present clearly highlights that some individuals, including the current shu president are willing to go to any length to attempt to maintain what they see as a divine right to rule / dictate. i believe that the delegates will be disgusted by this action and example and firmly remove the current president and leave him where he should be left. what a poor poor example to be set by an individual who has publicly attempted to dictate to others what they should and should not be doing. his letters in the bhw are far from advocating freedom of choice. the dual members of lanarkshire in the past were not given any choice. the twelve month period for sorting out your membership only applies to new members so should not affect the current acrobatics being undertaken by the president of the shu. what a poor example.

[peterh127]

The problem in Scottish pigeon racing unfolding before your eyes. This is why the SHU split up. A Majority desicoin is OK unless you are in the minority thyem some people will move heaven and earth to find a way round it

[johno]

see the shu presidents lanarkshire fed club have burst the one fed rule for someone else. the former lanarkshire member who is a member of the midland fed has managed to break the one fed rule twice in one go. the midland fed spurred on by this same member enforced the one fed rule under the protection and ratification of the shu. so we now have two members of the presidents club breaking the one fed rule. the shu president and the midland member. this stinks in my opinion and has opened the door for a free for all.

[t3doo]

see the shu presidents lanarkshire fed club have burst the one fed rule for someone else. the former lanarkshire member who is a member of the midland fed has managed to break the one fed rule twice in one go. the midland fed spurred on by this same member enforced the one fed rule under the protection and ratification of the shu. so we now have two members of the presidents club breaking the one fed rule. the shu president and the midland member. this stinks in my opinion and has opened the door for a free for all.

 

 

sorry johno for raining on your parade, I dont know who is pulling your strings but I suggest you check your facts before posting I know if I was john barlow I would be taking your accusations further, I would suggest if you are a member of lanarkshire federation you take the matter up with your new officials instead of making totally unfounded statements on the forum for anyone to read, I am sure if you check the facts you will find that john barlow has not broken any rules be they lanarkshire federation or indeed SHU.

personally I think it was a tragedy that lanarkshire federation allowed themselfs to be deprived of an excellent president and an SHU president in to the bargain, I am confident it will be a long time before lanarkshire have the privilage again!!!!!!!

 

 

[johno]

what statements are unfounded. is the president of the shu not a member of two feds. is there not a one fed rule in lanarkshire. did the shu not uphold the one fed rule in a case concerning the midland fed in the recent past. a member has been accepted by the shu presidents lanarkshire club who is a member of the midland fed. what is unfounded. this is reality of the situation. is the shu president who lives in the coatbridge area not now a member of dumbarton club and thus the west of scotland fed. has this not been undertaken to attempt to become a delegate to the shu for west of scotland. has this not been part of a last ditch attempt to hold on to the shu presidents post.  

[t3doo]

what statements are unfounded. is the president of the shu not a member of two feds. is there not a one fed rule in lanarkshire. did the shu not uphold the one fed rule in a case concerning the midland fed in the recent past. a member has been accepted by the shu presidents lanarkshire club who is a member of the midland fed. what is unfounded. this is reality of the situation. is the shu president who lives in the coatbridge area not now a member of dumbarton club and thus the west of scotland fed. has this not been undertaken to attempt to become a delegate to the shu for west of scotland. has this not been part of a last ditch attempt to hold on to the shu presidents post.  

 

as I said johno why dont you find out before posting, check the facts, I would suggest you contact johns former club secretary after all john can not be held accountable for his actions, I can however assure you john barlow has not broken any rules he has simply turned his back on lanarkshire federation ( perhaps it was to have all the knives removed put there by the lanarkshire mafia ) its strange or is it, all the clandestine meetings held prior to meetings are always held in hamilton!!!!!!!!!!!!!! be it an office or public house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! could it be sour grapes you are tasting since lanarkshire mafia shot themselfs in the foot and lost the power within the SHU. did they really think vincie had any chance of taking johns job, nae chance and thats a fact!!!!!!!!!!! the sad truth is that lanarkshire fed was only a pawn in an assault on the SHU council by replacing the delegates with puppets to do the puppet masters bidding and we awe ken who he is!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[johno]

are you saying that John Barlow is no longer a mamber of his lanrkshire club and therefore no longer a member of lanarkshire federation. you are not denying JB is a member of West of Scotland fed.

[HOMER49]

 

as I said johno why dont you find out before posting, check the facts, I would suggest you contact johns former club secretary after all john can not be held accountable for his actions, I can however assure you john barlow has not broken any rules he has simply turned his back on lanarkshire federation ( perhaps it was to have all the knives removed put there by the lanarkshire mafia ) its strange or is it, all the clandestine meetings held prior to meetings are always held in hamilton!!!!!!!!!!!!!! be it an office or public house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! could it be sour grapes you are tasting since lanarkshire mafia shot themselfs in the foot and lost the power within the SHU. did they really think vincie had any chance of taking johns job, nae chance and thats a fact!!!!!!!!!!! the sad truth is that lanarkshire fed was only a pawn in an assault on the SHU council by replacing the delegates with puppets to do the puppet masters bidding and we awe ken who he is!!

 

 

 

 

 

Hi t3doo

Pure Bril

For once on this site somebody who speaks

THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH

Cheers

Homer 49

 

[frank-123]

 

as I said johno why dont you find out before posting, check the facts, I would suggest you contact johns former club secretary after all john can not be held accountable for his actions, I can however assure you john barlow has not broken any rules he has simply turned his back on lanarkshire federation ( perhaps it was to have all the knives removed put there by the lanarkshire mafia ) its strange or is it, all the clandestine meetings held prior to meetings are always held in hamilton!!!!!!!!!!!!!! be it an office or public house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! could it be sour grapes you are tasting since lanarkshire mafia shot themselfs in the foot and lost the power within the SHU. did they really think vincie had any chance of taking johns job, nae chance and thats a fact!!!!!!!!!!! the sad truth is that lanarkshire fed was only a pawn in an assault on the SHU council by replacing the delegates with puppets to do the puppet masters bidding and we awe ken who he is!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

the meetings of the (mafia) were open to anyone who wanted to attend

as many lanarkshire fed members did attend as they were unhappy about the way the fed was being managed

so decided in a democratic way to vote for  a new president and vice presidents to see if this can make a diffrence

maybe next year you could organise a meeting if your unhappy with they way the fed is managed this coming year then we may have another democratic vote for another president

as for a puppet i know one vice president and he would not vote just because someone told him too maybe thats what happened in the past but no longer

 

[Guest WINGS 04]

WELL SAID BART

[ALF]

Homer why is the shu president now in partnership with graham white, a man who has timed another fanciers bird in to take 2nd section f in the young bird national. everybody knows the bird is mr traynors but the shu are dragging it out. the fed  john barlow now represents has only one club with 12 lofts and is in breach of the shu constitution but when has that ever stopped them!!!!!!!

 

cheers yours in sport ALF ;) ;)

[ALF]

ps.......it has 4 clubs in the fed but could someone please name the 20 flying lofts that the west of Scotland fed has?????    Please anybody coz it would be a help!!!!!

[ALF]

Homer why is the shu president now in partnership with graham white, a man who has timed another fanciers bird in to take 2nd section f in the young bird national. everybody knows the bird is mr traynors but the shu are dragging it out. the fed  john barlow now represents has only one club with 12 lofts and is in breach of the shu constitution but when has that ever stopped them!!!!!!!

 

cheers yours in sport ALF ;) ;)

 

 

 

ps ..i have this info in very good faith from someone in Glasgow!!!!!!!!! ;) ;) ;)

[t3doo]

the meetings of the (mafia) were open to anyone who wanted to attend

as many lanarkshire fed members did attend as they were unhappy about the way the fed was being managed

so decided in a democratic way to vote for  a new president and vice presidents to see if this can make a diffrence

maybe next year you could organise a meeting if your unhappy with they way the fed is managed this coming year then we may have another democratic vote for another president

as for a puppet i know one vice president and he would not vote just because someone told him too maybe thats what happened in the past but no longer

 

as you will know bart the only people who attend these clandestine meetings are the people who just revel in s---e, the meeting was supposedly to discuss bad racing and look at ways forward, what another load of s---e, perhaps you could enlighten us all on how it got round to electing new officials I would have thought that was AGM business.

I beleive pender came on the forum stating he was now a delegate for lanarkshire fed and he would be upholding the rules of the SHU, well thats just fine and dandy but the last delegate sent to the SHU stated the same at the 2004 AGM of the SHU the only problem with that is you have to have some knowledge of the rules to be able to apply them, lets all hope the two new ones dont let us down.

by the way not all the mafia meetings are open to all as I personally still have a very private letter of invitation to one of those meetings which I declined to attend which I am sure would cause a lot of embarassment to certain people within this federation, maybe I could post it on the forum for all to see or better still why dont you post yours, oops forgot did you get one!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

[HOMER49]

Hi t3doo

Glad to see not all Lanarkshire west section members are controlled by the

puppet master

Arise Sir Percy (TSP)

Cheers

Homer 49