1st 20 in fed

[just ask me]

as you know i believe there should be a limit of birds timmed,our fed has about 550 members, all i am saying mate is under these conditions with most clubs in the fed using ets now there has to be a cut off

 

 

right now i know what u mean not up on ets yet didint know that was what u were talking about is there no way of useing ets to limt the result to 100 or 200 what ever u want just for my own reference as i havent seen ets work yet  

[Guest]

as you know i believe there should be a limit of birds timmed,our fed has about 550 members, all i am saying mate is under these conditions with most clubs in the fed using ets now there has to be a cut off

 

 

right now i know what u mean not up on ets yet didint know that was what u were talking about is there no way of useing ets to limt the result to 100 or 200 what ever u want just for my own reference as i havent seen ets work yet  

 

yes once you have timmed five for talking sake,if you remove pocket clock the rest will only be timmed on your own system for your own records,but as i say there has to be a cut off.by the way i have a ets system but this season i will use my stb with only two other members joining me

[just ask me]

yes once you have timmed five for talking sake,if you remove pocket clock the rest will only be timmed on your own system for your own records,but as i say there has to be a cut off.by the way i have a ets system but this season i will use my stb with only two other members joining me

 

 

 

 

so the main system in the club cant cut down the result to lets say first 100 200 or what ever u want

[joe61]

if a guy sends 30 birds he is entitled to clock 30 he pays to send them like everyone else

 

 

oh happy days

[Guest]

yes once you have timmed five for talking sake,if you remove pocket clock the rest will only be timmed on your own system for your own records,but as i say there has to be a cut off.by the way i have a ets system but this season i will use my stb with only two other members joining me

 

 

 

 

so the main system in the club cant cut down the result to lets say first 100 200 or what ever u want

 

yes it could mate but getting everone to agree on this is a totally different thing

[just ask me]

yes it could mate but getting everone to agree on this is a totally different thing

 

 

so in other wards there doesent have to be 1100 birds or so in the result like u said in an eariller post and if a guy clocks 20 birds if hes way behind his birds doesent have to be shown in the result but if hes ahead fair play to him i would agree with something along the lines of a 3 bird result in the club for the novices

[Guest]

yes it could mate but getting everone to agree on this is a totally different thing

 

 

so in other wards there doesent have to be 1100 birds or so in the result like u said in an eariller post and if a guy clocks 20 birds if hes way behind his birds doesent have to be shown in the result but if hes ahead fair play to him i would agree with something along the lines of a 3 bird result in the club for the novices

 

in an earlier post u said every fancier should have the right to time 20/30 birds in fed.but if you dont time them in the club they cant make the fed result.the experienced fanciers should no better and give the novices a chance as with out them there is no future and it would 11000 although i wrote 1100.but as i say common sence should prevail and a limit of five should be in place.

[Lennut Tar]

lets face it, if every fancier were to time their first twenty or so birds the result could become quite ridiculious.I believe especially with the introduction of ets, a limit of birds timmed should be considered.and once again what about the novices with mabee only a dozen birds you will sicken them before they even get started.

 

Clock 20 birds !!!!!!!!! Just have a look at the results as an example from unit 10 in America etc down in Florida. Example !!!!!!!! 2000 birds in race "Blow Home" 1900 on there result sheet. Talk about ridiculous etc, Let alone the trees required to print the results there. Still !!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D I suppose now, some like to let everyone know how bad some of their birds really are "PMSL".

Enjoy.  

 

 

 

 

[just ask me]

in an earlier post u said every fancier should have the right to time 20/30 birds in fed.but if you dont time them in the club they cant make the fed result.the experienced fanciers should no better and give the novices a chance as with out them there is no future and it would 11000 although i wrote 1100.but as i say common sence should prevail and a limit of five should be in place.

 

yes but easy way around that just take every ones first 3 birds for the club result and send on the results to the fed im agreeing with what u are saying i just think for a fed result it should show a true result as i belive u should have to work hard to get onto one and not by default but would agree with keeping a limit on club races just take fanicers best 3 times  nice to hear other pll opinions

[harky]

if a guy sends 30 birds he is entitled to clock 30 he pays to send them like everyone else

 

 

oh happy days

 

YES AND I WOULD LOVE TO BUY SOME FROM HIM AS THATS MORE THAN I KEEP   :) :)

[just ask me]

yes ure right rose just was saying that if a fancier clocks 20 as in he gets top 20 in the fed result he should be allowed to take the top 20 in the result some are saying to put a cap on the amount of positions a fancier can take i belive that can be done in a club but shouldn't happen in the fed as i belive the fed result should be a true result of the race

[rembrant2coo]

Isnt there a limit on how many birds feds put in their results   I can understand people wanting to time in all their birds if they are pretty near each other but surely no one is going be wanting to time birds that come ages afterwards are they I presume you can switch your ets of same as you would stop putting any birds in a clock

 

i don,t have ets , but i remember in my club when iasked the member why he timed them all in , he could,nt explain he had 39 in the clockthe next week he came he said to me just take the 1st   three i said o.k. when it camr to the y/birds he brought in his BEN QUARTZ

can you set that clock for me not even a please or a thank you i asked what was wrong

he said  well i,m wanting to use this one i said to him you could have timed and then switched off your ets oh no could,nt do that clock would stop , i just shook my head in amazement thats whats wrong they want to time them all in they had been coming in all day cause we did,nt take our clocks off till 6 at night

[Guest chrisss]

yes ure right rose just was saying that if a fancier clocks 20 as in he gets top 20 in the fed result he should be allowed to take the top 20 in the result some are saying to put a cap on the amount of positions a fancier can take i belive that can be done in a club but shouldn't happen in the fed as i belive the fed result should be a true result of the race

 

i could not agree more he sent them ,he timed them, this is my first years racing so i am not talking from experence, but as far as i am concerned if some one beats me [and they will most times i expect!!!!]i have 3 choices become a better fancier, get better pigeons or start breeding budgies

[just ask me]

 

i could not agree more he sent them ,he timed them, this is my first years racing so i am not talking from experence, but as far as i am concerned if some one beats me [and they will most times i expect!!!!]i have 3 choices become a better fancier, get better pigeons or start breeding budgies

 

fair play chriss  any coming from a new comer in all nice to see u wont want a resut by default fair play to u

[just ask me]

Guess ets timing in all birds will work both ways there going be the ones that are not going to be able to say that they had all their birds home in 10 minutes anymore  ;D

 

well as far as i know there is a way of timeing in your birds for yourself but not only lets say bring your 3 best results down to the club not in the know on ets but think this is the way it works

[Roland]

if a guy sends 30 birds he is entitled to clock 30 he pays to send them like everyone else

 

 

oh happy days

 

No body disputes his entitled ... some are just concerned regarding the 'outcome / any detrimentalism' that will have a cost effective ending paid for by the sport.

It is just a ego realisn of stupudity in selfishness in the highest form.

Though personally I couldn't give a fickled rats' *expletive removed*... Just know that next year with less members, more costs distributed amongst us. Now that is sensible and for the goodness of he sport.

However no one wants to be 3rd knowing there were 15 more birds not clocked in before him.

Down to the sensibilty of the particpating memebers... Pete help us...

[Merlin]

In relation to what Roland has posted above,in most clubs,and even in feds, in any given race , with fabciers winning out of turn in these advantagous loft positions,now with the posibility of multiple birds being clocked within seconds,especially at club level these fanciers will become evem more dominant result wise,in doing so they will decimate their clubs,in essence what is basically the most uneven mis matched game/sport,is now having the odds stacked even highger by those who need it less,what other game/sport allows seasoned profesionals almost to compete against raw and in most instances naive opposition,with our only thoughts for them,keep on getting hammered,you will get there,at the expense of how many others.in one of my clubs,three flyers has got overfly on me by approx three miles,yet these flyers with a predominant wind are five miles less on estimated line of flight,wind direction will mostly dictate race result on any given day.

[Lennut Tar]

In relation to what Roland has posted above,in most clubs,and even in feds, in any given race , with fabciers winning out of turn in these advantagous loft positions,now with the posibility of multiple birds being clocked within seconds,especially at club level these fanciers will become evem more dominant result wise,in doing so they will decimate their clubs,in essence what is basically the most uneven mis matched game/sport,is now having the odds stacked even highger by those who need it less,what other game/sport allows seasoned profesionals almost to compete against raw and in most instances naive opposition,with our only thoughts for them,keep on getting hammered,you will get there,at the expense of how many others.in one of my clubs,three flyers has got overfly on me by approx three miles,yet these flyers with a predominant wind are five miles less on estimated line of flight,wind direction will mostly dictate race result on any given day.

 

First, Joe 61 !!!!!!!. You may be correct in what you say etc & I can see where your coming from here. But have no doubt what so ever, that if that situation occurs in the near future in most areas, it will kill the sport very quickly I'm afraid in my view.

Roland !!!!!! Fair enough comment etc along with Merlins here also, the way I look at things. But the one thing which no one should attempt to do is, not allow EC's etc. Because they really are a terrific improvement for our sport, when you see what they can do. The big problem for what I see with them is, how to use them to the best advantage, so at the end of the day, everyone is happy.

Sorry !!!!!!!!! But I don't have the answer to that one   ;) I'm afraid.

Merlin !!!!!!!!! Oh to be so lucky  ;D ;D ;D 3 miles !!!!!!!!!  :'( :'( :'( it's 10 miles to the nearest flyer for me I'm afraid & 20+ miles to the longest flyer in my club.

Enjoy.

 

 

[pjc]

Most feds only print a result with the 1st 30 birds, we get a result with top 30 in each section and then an overall top 30!

Who wants to know if they are 991st anyway?

 

Phil

[Guest chrisss]

if a guy wins the first 5 in a race all the time, and then he gets told that he can only clock the first 3,what happens on the next race when i get 4th?,now did i get 4th because my birds deserve it, or because the guy can only clock the first 3,if this guy gets the first 5 every time i want to beat him, not be given "the crumbs from his table ",because he is only allowed to clock the first 3, sorry new starters view,but if the only way to beat the good ones is to restrict their birds with a limit [bearing in mind they pay for what they fly]then whats the point ?

[pjc]

when I joined my local club here they had a 10 bird rule. You could send as many as you liked but could only nominate 10 for club race and the rest were trainers but did count for the fed.

What happened is members just sent 10 birds as there was no point in sending a bigger team!

We got the rule changed and the birdage went up with better competition, needless to say the previous sec threw his toy and left as he didn't agree with us not having a birdage limit!

 

Phil

[joe61]

hi lennut its nice to read your posts again and i agree 100%with what you say i know results like this do make clubs disband i still congratulate the man his been top man in 2 clubs for 2 years they all whinge about it because its not them that's doing it if it happened to me i would be crying in me cornflakes but i would come back more determined next week    the guy may have a loft on a trailer where he could whizz up and down the M62 to time his birds i realy dont know fellas

 

oh happy days

[joe61]

rose i do agree with you when the thread was started all people had to do was pat the man on the back say well done and give a bit of credit some cant do that all they can do is pull holes in the performance IE location money clubs small feds crap a race is there to win so try to win it guys and dont have a pop at a first class performance to make you feel better

 

oh happy days

[ken]

the man has been disqualified as his clock was wrong so he never had the first 20 birds i think my mate tops the fed its  verry close  

[timbarra]

the man has been disqualified as his clock was wrong so he never had the first 20 birds i think my mate tops the fed its  verry close  

 

How the hell can it be close between your mate and a guy thats been disqualified ??????   what a bunch of sour grapes, do you expect me to believe this rubbish....? ??) ??) ??)