1st 20 in fed

[mac1]

remember the thread about money and pigeons some time ago,folk saying you dont need money to do well with racing pigeons as you get the best birds  for free ect,and i dissagreed saying that a local fancier was a millionair near me. he only has the 1st 20 in the fed on his first race on saturday,only raced two years been the top flyer every year in two clubs...

 

so money means nothing

[ch pied]

how many loft's sent & what was the birdage

[sammy]

geo mac and son  can do that up here with some times 5/6/7/8 thousand birds in the fed  

[Guest Vic]

Yes! put the feds name to shame.

[Guest casbri]

birdsz still got to be trained .fed and r5aced.

[joe61]

mac1 thats top racing you cant knock that fellas 1 to 20 name the last man to do that  i would like it to have been me

to do that in any fed is top top class boys

 

ps

 

not all in one thimble i hope

oh happy days

[retired]

well done to him thats great flying i suppose with the ETS now if the birds dropped together it is viable as all could be clocked within seconds.

 

It would be interesting to know how many he sent in total and also the fed members and birdage not to knock the performance just to satisfy my own curiosity

[gangster]

wall/lunt/green/   do this week in week out...top draw flyers

[Guest Vic]

Yes! put the feds name to shame.

 

I would say they fly into a NE position and far out on their own.

[ALF]

 

I would say they fly into a NE position and far out on their own.

 

WHO YOU ON ABOUT VIC ME OLD SON??

[Guest Vic]

THESE WHIZZBANGERS

[ALF]

THESE WHIZZBANGERS

 

OH AYE RIGHT NAE BOTHER I THOUGHT IT WAS THEM YOU WERE ON ABOUT :-/ :-/ ;D ;D ;D ;D

[gangster]

mac1 you can throw all the money you like about it dont guarantee results...respect the mans results in fact use him as an example...i want to be in that position......its possible

[Delboy]

remember the thread about money and pigeons some time ago,folk saying you dont need money to do well with racing pigeons as you get the best birds  for free ect,and i dissagreed saying that a local fancier was a millionair near me. he only has the 1st 20 in the fed on his first race on saturday,only raced two years been the top flyer every year in two clubs...

 

so money means nothing

 

I know plenty of millionaires who couldnt fly a kite in a windy day.Thats not to say money doesnt help because it does, but you cannot take anything away from this fellas management skills when he is taking the top 20 in this fed. Leave no stone left unturned to beat him next week

[Guest Paulo]

remember the thread about money and pigeons some time ago,folk saying you dont need money to do well with racing pigeons as you get the best birds  for free ect,and i dissagreed saying that a local fancier was a millionair near me. he only has the 1st 20 in the fed on his first race on saturday,only raced two years been the top flyer every year in two clubs...

 

so money means nothing

 

His mate whose also a well off businessman if its who I am thinking of that you are talking about flys in our club. He employs a man full time to look after his birds and has another partner He sent 60 birds to the race this weekend and with the overfly I was on at the same time as him beaten by 4 minutes by a bloke who sent 50. I only sent 23 as I can't afford to keep a lot of pigeons with being on low pay until I get my degree but I have more points than the businessman so far and haven't spent half as much money and I'm a novice. Its possible to beat people like this but it takes a lot of hard work and dedication and a bit of what money can't buy luck.

 

I'd love to compete on a level playing field with people like that but I can't so I'll get working my hardest and give the birds a happy home and keep them happy and treat them as indivuduals rather than numbers and hopefully they'll come

[ken]

same race last year there was 2,220 birds away

[joe61]

guys & gals ifor 1 will give the man credit & respect he warrents even as a one off but the man has been top dog in 2 clubs for the last 2 years there are 2 things in any sport management and dare i say it MONEY take ferrari they have both = WINNERS take el_ al makatoum he has both = WINNERS as do barcalona = WINNERS so do you want to be a farrari or a skoda

[billy wilson]

mac the man you are on about,has it been misinterpirated because the man you are on about surely has raced pigeons for donkeys years,thats about staf your on about,he has been racing 2 years at a different location but still in the same fed. [jose thones] could be spelt wrong.

 

                                                                              billy

[schouwman71]

you can still beat the heavy flyers with a small team of bird,you need to dedicate urself 100%,have the right birds to do the right job aswell.i sent all my 7 cocks to the first race and won it,i had all 7 home in less than 10 mins.and he flew around the houses 5 times clapping his wing at speed aswell,finally dropped him with a clippy.

 

Les

[joe61]

billy the man has been consistent over 2 years regardless of where he lives if you want to get to the top which i assume is where we all want to go then you have to spend money to help you get there you have to research the man and his birds if you trust the man you buy if you dont you walk away some people give away inferiour birds so youare in the same place as them on the sheet near the bottom so as they are not the only ones with a red face on result night

[Guest]

I think know of the guy you are on about, but i thought he had been flying longer than a few years! Personally I think that performance is outstanding racing, what we should ALL aspire to achieve. The guy may or may not be a millionaire, he may or may not have people helping him, he may or may not have beneficial loft position and whatever else has been cast at him because of his success, but you can't take away the credit from his performance(s). The birds still have to be "managed" into supreme condition. It's always the same when someone rises above the norm, they are slated for some reason or another. Is pigeon racing the only sport where the champions are chastized??  

 

I do not get the name and shame the Fed statement Vic??? I thought you were a better bloke than that, and as you are a successful flier too it makes it even more confusing! Whats shameful about winning and winning in an outstanding way? I don't follow your thinking here??? No lads, credit where credit is due, that is absolutely outstanding flying, take your cap off to the lad. I really hope people are grousing about me in the future because of performances like that!

[Guest Paulo]

I think know of the guy you are on about, but i thought he had been flying longer than a few years! Personally I think that performance is outstanding racing, what we should ALL aspire to achieve. The guy may or may not be a millionaire, he may or may not have people helping him, he may or may not have beneficial loft position and whatever else has been cast at him because of his success, but you can't take away the credit from his performance(s). The birds still have to be "managed" into supreme condition. It's always the same when someone rises above the norm, they are slated for some reason or another. Is pigeon racing the only sport where the champions are chastized??  

 

I do not get the name and shame the Fed statement Vic??? I thought you were a better bloke than that, and as you are a successful flier too it makes it even more confusing! Whats shameful about winning and winning in an outstanding way? I don't follow your thinking here??? No lads, credit where credit is due, that is absolutely outstanding flying, take your cap off to the lad. I really hope people are grousing about me in the future because of performances like that!

 

If its who I think he's on about he's been flying for years he was flying when my dad wrapped in in the nineties he was more famous for having good van reets then though. The point I was making with my earlier post was not undermining anyones achievement but simply making the point that these people can be beaten with a few birds you just need dedication and a bit of a luck.

[billy wilson]

joe ime not disputing or did dispute anything you said,what i said was that he,s flew alot more than 2 years.i know what the lad does look what he did in the young bird national ladt year,he,s been a top flyer for longer than people realise,one of my mates fly his birds so the last thing in my mind would be to critisise the lad,ime 70 years of age if i was younger i would be the first one to buy from him.

 

 

                                              billy :-/ 8) ;D ;D

[Guest Paulo]

joe ime not disputing or did dispute anything you said,what i said was that he,s flew alot more than 2 years.i know what the lad does look what he did in the young bird national ladt year,he,s been a top flyer for longer than people realise,one of my mates fly his birds so the last thing in my mind would be to critisise the lad,ime 70 years of age if i was younger i would be the first one to buy from him.

 

 

                                              billy :-/ 8) ;D ;D

 

Billys post doesn't read like he is critcising him to me and I think the point Mac is trying to argue is that money does make pigeon racing a bit easier of course you still have to be skilled and know what your about but it can be an advantage but what can you do bang rich people from the sport.

 

Perosnally I'd rather enjoy getting one up on them when they have paid stupid money to send a big team

[joe61]

billy im not thinking your disputing or criticising the man people need to spend money to help you to the top and compete with ace flyers your management could be tip top but with inferior birds people will be banging their heads on the wall but amazingly some people are happy to do that