Novice Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 I say rule 33 what ever it is stays, support the fed your in know and stop chasing the money.Or have you all forgot keeping pigeons is a hobbie. Keeping pigeons is actually about the welfare of the birds and if neighbouring federations have different race programs offering different options then the fancier should have the right to choose whatever suits his birds on that weekend and his ultimate goal. This also includes the option to leave the birds at home if the prevailing weather conditions don't suit. It's not about committing birds every weekend simply to make a balance sheet look good.
pigeonpete Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 No really anything to do with me, but what is/does rule 33 state? dont really understand? im a memember of 2 feds, havent sent to 1 of them this year as havent got enough bird, :-)
Guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 Keeping pigeons is actually about the welfare of the birds and if neighbouring federations have different race programs offering different options then the fancier should have the right to choose whatever suits his birds on that weekend and his ultimate goal. This also includes the option to leave the birds at home if the prevailing weather conditions don't suit. It's not about committing birds every weekend simply to make a balance sheet look good. Absolutely 100% spot on mate,for me it would be about having the right to choose what was right for my birds in pursuit of my goals.It has got absolutely nothing to do with chasing money.But rules are rules sadly.
Guest slugmonkey Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 I dont know how it is there but here we used to have a bunch of ship jumpers they would ship a few birds on the easy races and none on the hard ones our club split on this and we decided to make a flat rate now we have more birdage with less members we welcome their guys to fly in our club but they will not let you fly both clubs !!! we were scheduled to fly combine with these guys ( at their request ) as they dont fly anything over 400 and they wanted some 500 - 600 mile races well after the 1st 400 they backed out we shipped 64 birds with 5 guys ( would be more but they wanted a shipping limit ) they shipped 42 birds with 11 members when results were figured they had less than 1/2 reporting wheras our club had 100% reporting in time one of these guys constantly complained about overfly he quit our club and joined a club 80 miles south when he would win he credited it to him being a superior handler but in our club with him giving 26 miles it was always due to the fact that the winners were getting overfly although at the time I was only 1 mile long on him and consistently beat him the guys in the club that is 80 miles away have invited me numerous times to fly with them I wish I could I have plenty of birds and am sure that I would do well there but I dont think it would be fair as on some races I would have 100 plus miles of overfly ALTHOUGH I would love shipping YBs 400 + miles and think I would learn a lot and improve my birds through this I dont think it would be right !!!
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 Absolutely 100% spot on mate,for me it would be about having the right to choose what was right for my birds in pursuit of my goals.It has got absolutely nothing to do with chasing money.But rules are rules sadly. Cant get away from the fact that the Lanarkshire federation relies on the money they make from the birdage set at the agm, therefore there is a problem if you were going to race for most of the season in the other fed then come back then come back for the big races and therefore contribute nothing for the federation purses. Perhaps a way round about it for Lanarkshire would be to set a fee for the season as many feds do around the country of say £200 this way you will be contributing the same as the Lanarkshire men who stick with the fed at all times.
Guest slugmonkey Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 My point is this there are guys who cannot see past the end of their noses when it comes to doing the right thing they will turn every situation into something that is for their personal benifit instead of doing the right thing that benifits everyone !!! Rules like this ( unfortunatly ) hurt the good guys because you have to keep a short leash on the bad guys if everyone flew FAIR and didnt take advantage then I would say abolish this rule but we all know that the weasles out there will just jump on the money and not do their part to ensure everyone benifits
Guest slugmonkey Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 or they could set birdage requirements and fees for those who wouldnt do anything except fly the money races
nogin Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 My point is this there are guys who cannot see past the end of their noses when it comes to doing the right thing they will turn every situation into something that is for their personal benifit instead of doing the right thing that benifits everyone !!! Rules like this ( unfortunatly ) hurt the good guys because you have to keep a short leash on the bad guys if everyone flew FAIR and didnt take advantage then I would say abolish this rule but we all know that the weasles out there will just jump on the money and not do their part to ensure everyone benifits WELL SAID SLUGGER VERY TRUE. 8)
Guest bigda Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 Keeping pigeons is actually about the welfare of the birds and if neighbouring federations have different race programs offering different options then the fancier should have the right to choose whatever suits his birds on that weekend and his ultimate goal. This also includes the option to leave the birds at home if the prevailing weather conditions don't suit. It's not about committing birds every weekend simply to make a balance sheet look good. with your attitude to keeping a fed in running ain't going to help anybody, if we all done that, and the transporter turned up on fridaynight, and we decided to go with another what then, who pays the transporter, the rule 33 is to safe guard every fancier in lanarkshire, from back sliding as the transporting has to be arranged in advance and doo racing is down to the controler no one else
Guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 you do restrict the use of ets in your club,i was at the meeting when you basically refused the use of ets to 7/8 new members,when the clique decided that they would block its use.in fact one person stood up and spouted that anyone who used ets were'cheating b------s!' and no its not a problem for me but its obviously a problem for you! and by the way your the one that butted into the thread about the possible legal pit falls of denying people the right to be members of 2 feds and by implication the right to use an ets system already approved by your governing body "the rpra" and by the way i have been a member of this forum longer than you and you are an expert in spouting sh--! this will be my last word on this as this thread is about the rule in L/F to which i only comented on, you seem to be very unhappy about a club your not a member of are you not happy at the club you are in or have you been put out of that ,all our members are very happy with our great club is this a wee bit of jealousy that you cant race with us and the clique you refere to was all the members at an agm we call this democracy but iam not willing to disclose club agm business on line if your not happy with your club go join another and dont hide behind the screen name you use, i think you may have anothe user name my name is up put yours up and worry about your own club no need to bother us we are all very very happy have a nice day no responce will be made willy
frank-123 Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 Vincent what benefits would racing in two feds be ???? or do you just like the thought of the top class transporter that south lanarkshire fed uses would you be sure your birds would fit on the transporter south lanarkshire fed is quite a small transporter so if you got your wish and the rule was deleted i reckon south lanarkshire would need another transporter could they afford to gamble 50 lanarkshire members might join but only 5 send so the gamble wont pay off if they stick with one transporter and all 50 new members turn up i know you would not be happy to go in a transit van as you lambasted (falsely)the snfc for using the same method of transport a few weeks back look forward to your answers
Guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 this will be my last word on this as this thread is about the rule in L/F to which i only comented on, you seem to be very unhappy about a club your not a member of are you not happy at the club you are in or have you been put out of that ,all our members are very happy with our great club is this a wee bit of jealousy that you cant race with us and the clique you refere to was all the members at an agm we call this democracy but iam not willing to disclose club agm business on line if your not happy with your club go join another and dont hide behind the screen name you use, i think you may have anothe user name my name is up put yours up and worry about your own club no need to bother us we are all very very happy have a nice day no responce will be made willy also my last word on the subject,you are not correct in saying that all your members are happy,how many members do you have now compared to 2/3 seasons ago?were all your members happy with what has happened to a £10,000 lottery grant wasted? at the agm i was referring to,where was the person that was elected president,he wasnt even at the meeting! the phrase "control freaks" springs to mind frank,you to have a nice day :)
Guest bigda Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 oh whats this freaks that can control happy clubs ??)
ALF Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 To clear this up a wee bit can someone tell me when rule 33 in the lanarkshire Fed was passed by the SHU :-/
frank-123 Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 To clear this up a wee bit can someone tell me when rule 33 in the lanarkshire Fed was passed by the SHU :-/ thats it cleared up then nobody messes with the big boys(lanarkshire) rule 33 stays ;D ;D
ALF Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 thats it cleared up then nobody messes with the big boys(lanarkshire) rule 33 stays ;D ;D : : : :
Guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 Vincent what benefits would racing in two feds be ???? or do you just like the thought of the top class transporter that south lanarkshire fed uses would you be sure your birds would fit on the transporter south lanarkshire fed is quite a small transporter so if you got your wish and the rule was deleted i reckon south lanarkshire would need another transporter could they afford to gamble 50 lanarkshire members might join but only 5 send so the gamble wont pay off if they stick with one transporter and all 50 new members turn up i know you would not be happy to go in a transit van as you lambasted (falsely)the snfc for using the same method of transport a few weeks back look forward to your answers To me the benefits of racing in two feds, would be one of choice to which race would suit my preparation for the channel races.As to the size of the transporter,well it can manage the caledonian combine so don't think a few extra fanciers would be a problem that could not be resolved.But i do not believe there would be a mass exodus of lanarkshire fed flyer's falling over themselves to race with the south fed.But i do believe Lanarkshire fed has more worrying transporter issues for you to be concerned about.
Guest bigda Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 you are right there vincey, transport and transporters, but geraldy air con, against weaved baskets, ??) has not proved, the results have been any better this year
frank-123 Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 To me the benefits of racing in two feds, would be one of choice to which race would suit my preparation for the channel races.As to the size of the transporter,well it can manage the caledonian combine so don't think a few extra fanciers would be a problem that could not be resolved.But i do not believe there would be a mass exodus of lanarkshire fed flyer's falling over themselves to race with the south fed.But i do believe Lanarkshire fed has more worrying transporter issues for you to be concerned about. south lanarkshire manages the caledonian combine in the old birds what about youngbird's
ALF Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 south lanarkshire manages the caledonian combine in the old birds what about youngbird's I think you'll find it has the use of the Glasgow fed transporters if they are needed Frank as it's in the combine aswell
Guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 south lanarkshire manages the caledonian combine in the old birds what about youngbird's Not that interested in young bird racing personally.But as i said don't think there would be a mass exodus of lanarkshire men going with the south.But do have another question for you Bart Lanarkshire provide the facility for non members to send through the LSC so what difference would it make to allow direct dual fed membership.
Guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 I think you'll find it has the use of the Glasgow fed transporters if they are needed Frank as it's in the combine aswell Yes the 3 of them mate. ;)
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