BLACK W F Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 Walter as you dont answer pm where is the fed racing from this week end
Blue Chequer Pied Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 Surely it would be Brechin as per the race programme. Paul.
BLACK W F Posted July 28, 2009 Author Report Posted July 28, 2009 I WOULD THINK SO PAUL UNLESS THERE HAS BEEN A MEETING THAT WE DONT KNOW ABOUT
walterbmasson Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 black w/f did you and paul thompson not get a race programme it definatly says brechin & cupar which was changed to perth and if you havent been notified i suggest you contact your secretray (if you want a meeting you and paul can have one y your selves please let me know the outcome and i for one arent stopping you going to brechin with your doos every day of the week if you want ) now regarding me PM YOU I CANT SEND A MESSAGE IT ALWAYS COMES UP ERROR BUT I WILL CONFIRM THE RACE THIS WEEK IS PERTH AS PER RACE PROGRAMME
BLACK W F Posted July 28, 2009 Author Report Posted July 28, 2009 the race programe states brechin this the north scotland fed not the walter masson fed
cemetary Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 the race programe states brechin this the north scotland fed not the walter masson fed ;D ;D ;D ;D
Blue Chequer Pied Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 The race programme I have states Brechin on Saturday on 25/07/2009. Walter if you do what you are proposing that would mean extending the race programme by a week which would mean the longest y.b race being held the 3rd week in September or dropping a race later in the programme to finish when we are supposed to. Surely common sense would be that we revert to the programme as it is from this week onwards. Paul.
BLACK W F Posted July 28, 2009 Author Report Posted July 28, 2009 well put Paul you also need a 2 thirds majority to change the programme is that not right
ritchie1 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 looking forward to perth race this week hope the weather stays dry for our second race
BLACK W F Posted July 28, 2009 Author Report Posted July 28, 2009 MAY BE PUT BIG OBJECTION IN IF RACE PROGRAMME NOT FOLLOWED
walterbmasson Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 black w/f who ever you are it may be an objection against you trying to disrupt fed if the racing goes into the 3rd week in sept its the fed that will benifet gary i really do hope you get off the mark i for one will be very glad and by the way i hope its from perth on saterday as per fed programme end of subject
BLACK W F Posted July 28, 2009 Author Report Posted July 28, 2009 no its not the end of subject you cancelled the first race brechin so you went to brechin instead of perth which was a good call but you should be picking up the programme now it is you who are costing the fed money as the lads are going to come in this week if we go to brechin if not trailers will be going to brechin instead of with the fed and i am not speaking about one or two either ask Elgin club and there is more clubs than them going to do it you just thinkl you can please your self for christ sake Walter look at the big picture no one trying to disrupt the fed but listen for a change we the members are not happy take note
walterbmasson Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 no black w/f i dont do as i want just ask your club members its them that kept phoning me to get the race cancelled and i had a few on the phone last night trying to cancel the programme that was put forward by elgin and we will finish the programme and i can assure you i have the backing of most members also from the west section what club are you in or is it a secret but i wont stop you going in a trailor to brechini hope you get a good toss
mcflettie Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 walter it would be good if you let us now who supports this change it certainly was not 99% of elgin members! but i was at the fed agm and supported our club race programme as did the majority so why have you and others taken it upon your selves to change it?
BLACK W F Posted July 28, 2009 Author Report Posted July 28, 2009 thats the problem Walter you have not got the support of Elgin forres buckie keith inverurie may be i should contact deveron valley as well no walter its all in your mind mate and if you change it its against the rules and i will putb in an objection al ong with many others now just be sensable and follow the program do what the members want not what you want you only have 1 VOTE LIKE THE REST OF US
Taylorsloft Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 Once it made at an AGM that it our fed was taken to the shu for the same thing
Taylorsloft Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 MAY BE PUT BIG OBJECTION IN IF RACE PROGRAMME NOT FOLLOWED It could be void
walterbmasson Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 mc flettie i have not changed anything and i certainly suport anyrace programme that is put forward by the majority of our fed members but this issue is nothing to do with race programme the programme is being adhered to what was passed the issue is the training the young birds which the members have admitted to all the members had the chance to put there birds into the first race i myself took a chance last week and payed the price dropping 7youngsters but nobody told me to put them but nobody is altering the race programe only by the weather not being in our favour but mc flettie the way the weather is this may not be the last time a race will be put off its in the laps of the gods iam dissapointed some fanciers has GONE TO THIS LENGTH OVER A 100MILES RACE AND THERE IS STILL 2 BRECHINS TO GO AT 70 MILES WHICH GIVES PLENTY OF TIME TO GET THEM IN i dont think this is a good way of running a fed and i think its time to stop this bickering
BLACK W F Posted July 28, 2009 Author Report Posted July 28, 2009 wALTER THE PROGRAMME HAS BEEN CHANGED IF YOU DO NOT GO TO BRECHIN THIS WEEK ITS BEEN CHANGED IT WAS PASSED AT AN AGM THE PERTH THAT WAS MISSED GO AFTER THE LONGEST Y/B RACE IF YOU WANT BUT GUYS ARE STARTING THIS WEEK THINKING ITS BRECKIN THEN PERTH THEN BRECHIN 3 THEN PERTH THATS THE PROG FOR THE NEXT 4 WKS YOU HAVE NOT ASKED THE SEC YOU SAID WE ARE GOING TO PERTH THIS WEEK WHO DECIDED THAT IF YOU GO THIS WAY I WILL GO TO SHU AND OBJECT THIS IS NOT PERSANAL JUST FOLLOW THE PROGRAMME END OF
Robbie7836 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 mc flettie i have not changed anything and i certainly suport anyrace programme that is put forward by the majority of our fed members but this issue is nothing to do with race programme the programme is being adhered to what was passed the issue is the training the young birds which the members have admitted to all the members had the chance to put there birds into the first race i myself took a chance last week and payed the price dropping 7youngsters but nobody told me to put them but nobody is altering the race programe only by the weather not being in our favour but mc flettie the way the weather is this may not be the last time a race will be put off its in the laps of the gods iam dissapointed some fanciers has GONE TO THIS LENGTH OVER A 100MILES RACE AND THERE IS STILL 2 BRECHINS TO GO AT 70 MILES WHICH GIVES PLENTY OF TIME TO GET THEM IN i dont think this is a good way of running a fed and i think its time to stop this bickering dinna think you should be belittling a 100mile race walter cz even u still livin off ur 5 o`clock shock would be glad o any win the 100 miles are races also!!!
Blue Chequer Pied Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 Walter nobody is getting in a state about a 100 mile race. Mine were at Brechin last week and will go wherever this weekend it makes no odds to me. My thoughts are from the point of view of the members who didn't go last week and will not come in at Perth but will wait another week until Brechin. The fed will loose birdage and hence revenue. There are members who have planned their young bird breeding/training/holidays round the programme that was agreed at the Fed AGM voted for by the members so to me it is only right we adhere to the program as stated in the Fed race program card distributed to all members i.e Brechin 25/7/09. Like I said it makes no odds to me as mine were at Brechin on Saturday and are going regardless but I know that a lot of members up this way will give it a miss at the weekend. As for clubs deciding on Friday what to do in theory you could end up with 10 different proposals and be no better off. Things hapen i.e the first race was cancelled. None of us can do anything about that and for what it is worth I back that decision 100% as do I back the decision to go to Brechin on Saturday 100% it was the right thing to do for everyone. But after all is said and done we have a programme that was agreed on and passed and we must adhere to it and follow it and finish on the same Saturday that was agreed. If people seriously think they can influence Fed decisions by phoning you they are mis-guided to say the least. There are rules and proceedures to be followed we cannot chop and change on a whim. As I have said it makes no difference to me but in the interest of the Fed and for the credibility of the Fed we need to stick to the race programme as stated and on the dates agreed. I have no personal vendetta in this I am just trying to put a balanced and common sense angle on this along with a financial one. Paul
BLACK W F Posted July 28, 2009 Author Report Posted July 28, 2009 well stated Paul we have all made plans the programme has to be followed as for clubs deciding on Friday night what a lot of balls as plenty members will not be there more havoc
walterbmasson Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 yes robbie i will always live that dream how many 1st opens have you got or go into a smaller division fed 1st or go smaller club 1sts ad i am not belittiling any 100miles races i dropped 7 last week at 70 miles its sad wh lengths some will go to disrupt a fed put your name forward for the job at next AGM I WILL PROPPOSE YOU
BLACK W F Posted July 28, 2009 Author Report Posted July 28, 2009 Walter you are taking this the wrong way its not persanal its about following what was set out at the AGM you say disrupt the fed i can remember you phoneing lorry on race days and race controller could not get threw so look in the mirrow when you come away with that garbage
walterbmasson Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 PA UL THE WAY YOUR WRITING YOUR POSTS YOU WOULD THINK I WAS FU----G TURNING A TAP ON CAN YOU GET IT INTO YOUR HEAD IT WAS THE FED MEMBERS THAT CANCELED THE FIRST BRECHIN MY PHONE WAS RED HOT YOU CANT ALLOW THE BIRDS TO GO THEN YOU PUT THE BLAME ONTO SOME ONE ELSE DONT START ABOUT HOLIDAys BUT THE OTHER PART OF YOUR POST IS DEAD ON THERE NOT TRAINED SO JUST COME OUT AND SAY IT OTHERS HAVE SO YOU WANT TO DISRUPT EVERY BOADY ELSE IS THAT BEING A [sPORT] THE MEMBERS THAT DID NOT SEND ARE NOT INVOLVED IN AVERAGES AND WE ARE ADERING TO THE RACE PROGRAMME
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