Guest frank dooman Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 Sorry, just noticed I was on Mod sign-on on my last post, my mistake. Think the wind may determine which valleys the birds might use, Frank, either to get out of the wind or make of use of it to get home. In my opinion it's a guessing game as no one [me included] has the full picture. cant disagree but i do believe the wind plays the bigest part where the birds go they wont fly against it unless they need to so that means a north wind
Guest frank dooman Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 twenty seven miles from pathhead to st boswells according to aa auto route. pathhead to wind turbines 7 miles/ leaving twenty to st boswells thats by road not as the crow/pigeon flys
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 cant disagree but i do believe the wind plays the bigest part where the birds go they wont fly against it unless they need to so that means a north wind So.. we race the first few races with ybs from DUE east from Alexandria.. the prevaling scottich west wind now becomes a head wind..
Guest IB Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 where is the hills at st boswells frank? Its years since I've been there, I was taken round the various First Bus Border routes, which included St Boswells, and the Border Hospital. There were individual hills, but don't remember thinking of them as barriers.
Guest frank dooman Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 So.. we race the first few races with ybs from DUE east from Alexandria.. the prevaling scottich west wind now becomes a head wind.. yes but the rest of the fed are against the wind aswell and you are starting to confirm what i was saying about overfly!!not race point loc.
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 For the 100th time... i couldn't care less about over fly.... I THINK ITS IS WRONG WE LIBERATE FROM A POINT WHERE IT IS GEOGRAPHICALLLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR OUR BIRDS TO HOME WITHOUT FLYING IN A BIG DOG LEG...
Guest stb- Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 From cockenzie straight line through kirkintilloch down to alexandria, straight as a die. west wind head wind for all, overfly approx 22mls
johno Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 in the end the agm will decide. why would anyone who is getting decent returns in these times vote to change. as far as i know a good per centage of the fed are having good returns from the previous race points. it would be asking a lot for them to change what they see as success.
Guest frank dooman Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 For the 100th time... i couldn't care less about over fly.... I THINK ITS IS WRONG WE LIBERATE FROM A POINT WHERE IT IS GEOGRAPHICALLLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR OUR BIRDS TO HOME WITHOUT FLYING IN A BIG DOG LEG... oh ok no need to shout! as alf says take it to the agm, i dont want to touch another nerve sory
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 If only they would come that way.. then we wouldn't have this debate... ps.. sorry Frank, never meant to shout..
gone fishing Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 When I raced before in Dumbarton I was in the position to watch the Dumbarton and Alexandria birds come round Dumbuck Quarry If Stevie had birds that came over the hill why do they still not fly that route and he would be the winner every week and we would all be desperate to find the secret Anyone of the old fliers that I know have never seen birds come over the hill I have taken my bird to milton up towards Overtoun house and you can see down the valley and guess what they all headed South towards the Clyde down to Dumbarton then up the Valley not as bad as Big Wullie his ended up in Cheshire (from Milton) not the glasgow Milton. Jonesy's father and uncles who flew as Jones Bros will give you a better idea as they flew for a good no of years in Alexandria my late mate Hammy Connolly used to say if they could get these birds to come over the hill they would have a winner and his Father old Tommy Connolly never had them over the hill nor did Donny Archibald as his birds would have came back up the valley unless they had overshot.Now that Dumbarton are applying maybe the boost of nos will make a difference maybe not but IMO they are not all bad birds or fliers agreed stevies doo came in the back from campsie and left at croftamie never over the crags in fact i libed birds at barrhead fire station and watched them fly over to clydebank and follow the crag u would have thought they would head for the castle as u can see it from there but no straight over to the crag
Guest frank dooman Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 in the end the agm will decide. why would anyone who is getting decent returns in these times vote to change. as far as i know a good per centage of the fed are having good returns from the previous race points. it would be asking a lot for them to change what they see as success. thats excatly what i said why try and fix it if its not broken!!!!!
johno Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 how is it geographically impossible to fly direct without dog leg. when in the air there are no geographical barriers. you saying a plane would also have to dog leg?
Guest frank dooman Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 how is it geographically to fly direct without dog leg. when in the air there are no geographical barriers. you saying a plane would also have to dog leg? only if it was landing in alexandra but not at glasgow airport
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 how is it geographically impossible to fly direct without dog leg. when in the air there are no geographical barriers. you saying a plane would also have to dog leg? If you drew a straight line from my loft to Cockenzie.. in between would be the side of the valley where we live then the campsies.. It has never been known for a bird to come over these hills.. Instead the race up the river from a number of miles south of us.. so i dont know where they go.. but they are liberated in the east and come from the south.. so at some point they have dog legged... and this is everyone in the clubs doos not just mine
Guest stb- Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 If you drew a straight line from my loft to Cockenzie.. in between would be the side of the valley where we live then the campsies.. It has never been known for a bird to come over these hills.. Instead the race up the river from a number of miles south of us.. so i dont know where they go.. but they are liberated in the east and come from the south.. so at some point they have dog legged... and this is everyone in the clubs doos not just mineyou will never no with pigeons. I can often train from dunbar in the east and the birds come back in from the west even in a west wind, but i think there just overshooting somtimes.
johno Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 what your saying no is that it is no impossible.
gone fishing Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 If you drew a straight line from my loft to Cockenzie.. in between would be the side of the valley where we live then the campsies.. It has never been known for a bird to come over these hills.. Instead the race up the river from a number of miles south of us.. so i dont know where they go.. but they are liberated in the east and come from the south.. so at some point they have dog legged... and this is everyone in the clubs doos not just mine agree with everything u said jonesy but they came that way even when racing the west route nothing new in fact they came that way when we had a go at the north rd point is realy if u gettin good returns why change it tbh u got not a lot of chance beating the east section even on a good day wats the odds most years 3 races maybe out of 16
Guest stb- Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 Think the thread should be Glasgow Fed is sencible racing from the east ;)
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 agree with everything u said jonesy but they came that way even when racing the west route nothing new in fact they came that way when we had a go at the north rd point is realy if u gettin good returns why change it tbh u got not a lot of chance beating the east section even on a good day wats the odds most years 3 races maybe out of 16 Exactly mate.. its the only way in.. but to me racing from the east is making it harder for them to find there way in, thats the point..
Delboy Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 We had 18 races in 2009 of which the west section topped the fed in 13 of them quoted from Bobby G, he reckons racing in the west has been more favourable in recent years
Delboy Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 He canny be in Glasgow... ;D ;D ;D ;D Ohhhhh I think he is ;D ;D ;D ;D
johno Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 how many times did the west section top the fed in 2009 jonesybhoy?
Guest stb- Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 quoted from Bobby G, he reckons racing in the west has been more favourable in recent years well they obviously had no problem finding there way in ;D ;D
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