applications

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

If you are within the bounds of a club and do not have bad debt etc.. is there any real reason why someone should not be accepted to a club..??

 

 

[clyde]

will go 2 a vote

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

But what real reason can you possibly have to vote against somene if they are within the bounds and do not have bad debt..??

 

Surely voting against someone because they will beat you every week is not a 'real' reason..??

[Guest strapper]

If you are within the bounds of a club and do not have bad debt etc.. is there any real reason why someone should not be accepted to a club..??

 

 

the only reasons if in the clubs boundaries that would stop anyone being considered is bad debt/bad person..arguementive etc..it wouldnt enter my mind about the qaulity of the fancier.

 

if i was rejected i would appeal on(being of good character and the opposite of those grounds above and that i be given a trial period to prove myself a worthy member.

[clyde]

 

the only reasons if in the clubs boundaries that would stop anyone being considered is bad debt/bad person..arguementive etc..it wouldnt enter my mind about the qaulity of the fancier.

 

if i was rejected i would appeal on(being of good character and the opposite of those grounds above and that i be given a trial period to prove myself a worthy member.

 

yes its all on the above  

[pjc]

nobody should be refused membership but until the unions impose a no refusal rule with the exemption of bad debt to the club or previous history with the club then this will continue to happen.

[Tony C]

Two main reasons why people get knock backs

1 the person is a troublemaker

2 they're $hit scared of the competition

 

Usually they'll brand No.2 as a No.1 to hide the fact.

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Two main reasons why people get knock backs

1 the person is a troublemaker

2 they're $hit scared of the competition

 

Usually they'll brand No.2 as a No.1 to hide the fact.

 

Your bang on mate..!!! That is 100% the reason...

[frank-123]

about time the shu stepped in and sorted this crap out

if it was me my lawyer would have been called a long time ago

[Novice]

about time the shu stepped in and sorted this crap out

if it was me my lawyer would have been called a long time ago

 

I have absolutely no intention of becoming involved here but I tend to think this club is not affiliated to the SHU.

I also believe that both Ayrshire and Lanarkshire Feds---SHU affiliates were actually attempting to establish a procedure that the Federations actually vetted candidates before their applications could be referred to clubs.

 

Now off back to the hut to continue with "the creation of a strain" while sitting on the fence.

[holmsidelofts]

To me i dont see the point of stopping someone because of the competition, i fly to beat the best and thats the challenge, I dont just want to be a winner in club racing but at fed and national level where i compete against everyone anyway, to me bring on the competition but i know some clubs are like this.

Its more likely they would not except if people didnt like the person in question or as others have said they are seen as trouble makers.

Unfortunately it is down to a members vote and if enough people vote against that person thats the outcome unfortunately, but i would certainly be asking the question why?

[frank-123]

 

I have absolutely no intention of becoming involved here but I tend to think this club is not affiliated to the SHU.

I also believe that both Ayrshire and Lanarkshire Feds---SHU affiliates were actually attempting to establish a procedure that the Federations actually vetted candidates before their applications could be referred to clubs.

 

Now off back to the hut to continue with "the creation of a strain" while sitting on the fence.

 

lanarkshire failed with that silly proposal

i thought it was a club in lanarkshire that jonesy was talking about sorry so the  rpra should be stepping in

 

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

 

lanarkshire failed with that silly proposal

i thought it was a club in lanarkshire that jonesy was talking about sorry

 

Chryston in Glasgow mate... i hope the 15 against members are thoroughly ashamed.. there a disgrace to the sport..!!!

[Guest]

Bad debt shouldn't come into it unless it is bad debt to the club.

Lots of people fall on hard times and it's their pigeons that keep them sane !!!

[soapy]

                             find out if the club involved has or is applying for a lottery grant , i dont think they could keep you out if they have   the lottery logo is sport for all.

[Novice]

 

lanarkshire failed with that silly proposal

i thought it was a club in lanarkshire that jonesy was talking about sorry so the  rpra should be stepping in

 

 

 

I am happy the proposal failed but I think it was initiated at SHU level. I have good reason to believe this.

I think involving any union would complicate matters and solve very little.

It's not a new scenario.

[BLACK W F]

you can only be refused through the following grounds

1  debt

2  banned for some misdemeaner

3outside the boundry

4 undesirable eliment

5  banned for violence

6 banned if convicted of breake in ect destruction of birds or property

but i think in this case is that delboy is too good a fancier and maybe stires it a wee bit as we all do at times  

thats my understanding  from the shu notes i have read

p s lottery grant only stands for 5 years then its void

[Tony C]

you can only be refused through the following grounds

1  debt

2  banned for some misdemeaner

3outside the boundry

4 undesirable eliment

5  banned for violence

6 banned if convicted of breake in ect destruction of birds or property

but i think in this case is that delboy is too good a fancier and maybe stires it a wee bit as we all do at times  

thats my understanding  from the shu notes i have read

p s lottery grant only stands for 5 years then its void

 

I would have thought it depends on what’s written in the clubs constitution

 

 

[Guest bakes]

i was lucky wrote my letter of application and got in more or less straight away the club i be flying in is a few minute car ride 5 minute walk from my house so new they wouldnt be a problem with club fed boundarys but always find it mad when i hear of clubs refuseing new members when they have no depts and is in the club fed boundarys i would of thought more members more birdage more competion on the saturday but all to your own.

 

all the best.

[DOVEScot]

If I was refused entry or banned from anything that was unjust I would fight tooth and nail to prove my banning or refusal was unjust. If they get away with it then they could do it to anyone and everyone, stand up and be counted and set a president for the future

[Guest strapper]

Bad debt shouldn't come into it unless it is bad debt to the club.

Lots of people fall on hard times and it's their pigeons that keep them sane !!!

 

the bad debt mentioned above is concerning clubs and not outside of racing.

 

[BLACK W F]

 

I would have thought it depends on what’s written in the clubs constitution

 

 

i have checked with the shu on another matter what i say is correct and checked up about lottery grant only lasts for 5 years

i will easly post what was recieved  not a problem it also states cant show or race if banned

and cant get rings either

[BLACK W F]

If I was refused entry or banned from anything that was unjust I would fight tooth and nail to prove my banning or refusal was unjust. If they get away with it then they could do it to anyone and everyone, stand up and be counted and set a president for the future

 

exactly the same as i would do Duncan some get away with everything while the guys who do nowt wrong but tell the truth get persicuted and  they try to gag them   ;) ;)

[walterbmasson]

about time the shu stepped in and sorted this crap out

if it was me my lawyer would have been called a long time ago

frank our club was fraserburgh invitation f/c SHU made us change the name we had to get invitation out  and put another name instead so we are now fraserburgh and district and funny thing nobody has ever been refused entry into our club [  has no other club you know has been told to get rid of invitation from club in scotland the reason was not to stop fanciers getting into clubs so there must be something written in SHU WHEN WE WERE TOLD ]

 

 

[Tony C]

 

i have checked with the shu on another matter what i say is correct and checked up about lottery grant only lasts for 5 years

i will easly post what was recieved  not a problem it also states cant show or race if banned

and cant get rings either

 

What is written into the clubs constitution surely must be abided by.