Wiley Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 What is the importance of hemp seed for those distance minded and how do you use it? It's a grain I use a lot for my sprinting, but wondered what use it would have for the distance
dal2 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 What is the importance of hemp seed for those distance minded and how do you use it? It's a grain I use a lot for my sprinting, but wondered what use it would have for the distanceI use it in recovery mostly but also in a trappng/titbit mix. Lots will use it a few days before basketing as a fats producer i guess. Feed lots during the moult mixed with linseed and rice
frankdooman Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 I use it for early races but don't see how will help for distance I fact it might cause problems getting the birds all het up when they realy need to chill and rest the high energy in it would be gone by the second day but maybe I've got it wrong
Wiley Posted July 5, 2014 Author Report Posted July 5, 2014 I use it for early races but don't see how will help for distance I fact it might cause problems getting the birds all het up when they realy need to chill and rest the high energy in it would be gone by the second day but maybe I've got it wrong Reason why I asked was reading a German excellent long distance fancier and he felt it was essential 4 days before basketing would be to have 50% hemp in the composition of his grain. But no reason to suggest why he felt it was important
yeboah Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 I know of a fancier at present who is successfully timing birds at 750 mlsLast 2 days bowl of hemp available in its box tops up as required
JohnQuinn Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 I read that the Nutritional value of Hemp seed is ZERO!!! I don't think it was in a pigeon mag though. But its in most small seed mixes and mine get theirs through that, but having read that article i wouldn't include it in my feeding program independent of other feeds.
frankdooman Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 Well every day is a school day but some one would need to come up with more info before I changed my system
Wiley Posted July 5, 2014 Author Report Posted July 5, 2014 I read that the Nutritional value of Hemp seed is ZERO!!! I don't think it was in a pigeon mag though. But its in most small seed mixes and mine get theirs through that, but having read that article i wouldn't include it in my feeding program independent of other feeds. Calories/100 g 567 kcalProtein 30.6Carbohydrate 10.9Dietary fiber 6.0Fat 47.2Saturated fat 5.2Palmitic 16:0 3.4Stearic 18:0 1.5Monounsaturated fat 5.8Oleic 18:1 (Omega-9) 5.8Polyunsaturated fat 36.2Linoleic 18:2 (Omega-6) 27.6Linolenic 18:3 (Omega-3) 8.7Gamma-Linolenic 18:3 (Omega-6) 0.8Cholesterol 0 mgMoisture 4.7Ash 6.6Vitamin A (B-Carotene) 4.0 IU/100gThiamine (Vit B1) 1.4 mgRiboflavin (Vit B2) 0.3 mgPyridoxine (Vit B6) 0.1 mgVitamin C 1.0 mgVitamin E 9.0 IU/100gSodium 9.0 mgCalcium 74.0 mgIron
dal2 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 I read that the Nutritional value of Hemp seed is ZERO!!! I don't think it was in a pigeon mag though. But its in most small seed mixes and mine get theirs through that, but having read that article i wouldn't include it in my feeding program independent of other feeds.Hemp is a high protein seed containing all nine of the essential amino acids (like flax). It also has high amounts of fatty acids and fiber as well as containing vitamin E and trace minerals. It has a balanced ratio of omega 3 to 6 fats at around a three to one ratio Copied article by the way no that clever
JohnQuinn Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 Calories/100 g 567 kcalProtein 30.6Carbohydrate 10.9Dietary fiber 6.0Fat 47.2Saturated fat 5.2Palmitic 16:0 3.4Stearic 18:0 1.5Monounsaturated fat 5.8Oleic 18:1 (Omega-9) 5.8Polyunsaturated fat 36.2Linoleic 18:2 (Omega-6) 27.6Linolenic 18:3 (Omega-3) 8.7Gamma-Linolenic 18:3 (Omega-6) 0.8Cholesterol 0 mgMoisture 4.7Ash 6.6Vitamin A (B-Carotene) 4.0 IU/100gThiamine (Vit B1) 1.4 mgRiboflavin (Vit B2) 0.3 mgPyridoxine (Vit B6) 0.1 mgVitamin C 1.0 mgVitamin E 9.0 IU/100gSodium 9.0 mgCalcium 74.0 mgIron Cheers Wiley, think i'm re converted lol
Tony C Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 Perhaps the fancier just feels comfortable feeding hemp. Peanuts and sunflower hearts are the other two high fat seeds/pulses/grains but he might be worried peanuts my hold mould & they don't eat sunflower hearts as readily as the do hemp.
JohnQuinn Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 Perhaps the fancier just feels comfortable feeding hemp. Peanuts and sunflower hearts are the other two high fat seeds/pulses/grains but he might be worried peanuts my hold mould & they don't eat sunflower hearts as readily as the do hemp. Now you've got me buying Hemp AND!! Sunflower Hearts tae test that theory.
dal2 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 Perhaps the fancier just feels comfortable feeding hemp. Peanuts and sunflower hearts are the other two high fat seeds/pulses/grains but he might be worried peanuts my hold mould & they don't eat sunflower hearts as readily as the do hemp.I dinny bother wae peanuts
Novice Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 I believe the main benefit of feeding hemp lies in the fact that it has a higher content of omega 3 fatty acids than any other seed/grain.I also believe that after the bird burns it's store of carbohydrates it then relies on stored fatty acids for fuel. It needs about 3 grams per hours of these for flight. I also believe that it uses omega 3 before omega 6 before omega 9.The above is also the reason why we should be feeding high fat mixes in the transporter to ensure the birds have fuel for their flight home.
dwh Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 44% of the seed is oils of which A very very high % is essential fatty acids hence the use of it late on in the week towards basketingMind you it is cannabis!So I'm thinking are they energized or just very happy :emoticon-0136-giggle:
dal2 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 44% of the seed is oils of which A very very high % is essential fatty acids hence the use of it late on in the week towards basketingMind you it is cannabis!So I'm thinking are they energized or just very happy :emoticon-0136-giggle:Chill dave man......get some hemp seed in ya man......my doos are ao relaxed they just drift home lol
dwh Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 Chill dave man......get some hemp seed in ya man......my doos are ao relaxed they just drift home lolHigh flyers lol
Kyleakin Lofts Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 I read that once Sunflower Seeds are de-hulled they start losing their value rapidly. If this is the case, and given the fear over peanuts, then hemp would be an ideal substitute. Also as a rider I also read from the same source that un-hulled Sunflower seeds are fairly useless as the digestive system is unable to break down the hull. Tried feeding them and never noticed pure seeds coming through and the article was very dated, so perhaps modern dieticians have found it to be incorrect. I believe parrots de-hull them before eating them, but pigeons are unable so to do. High flyers lol You back on the medication Donkey? :D
dwh Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 I read that once Sunflower Seeds are de-hulled they start losing their value rapidly. If this is the case, and given the fear over peanuts, then hemp would be an ideal substitute. Also as a rider I also read from the same source that un-hulled Sunflower seeds are fairly useless as the digestive system is unable to break down the hull. Tried feeding them and never noticed pure seeds coming through and the article was very dated, so perhaps modern dieticians have found it to be incorrect. I believe parrots de-hull them before eating them, but pigeons are unable so to do. You back on the medication Donkey? :D Naw but you are after the last post you ass :emoticon-0136-giggle:
Guest stb- Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 Naw but you are after the last post you ass :emoticon-0136-giggle: Heard Bigda said he was clueless Dave on another shutdoon site . Any truth in it .
Kyleakin Lofts Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 Loveless in Lugton. :( Feeling the pain. :D
Guest stb- Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 Clueless in Lugton. :( Needing a brain. :D you could be right there :animatedpigeons: :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:
Kyleakin Lofts Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 Brainless in Lugton. :( Needing a clue. :D Now I am right! :D
dwh Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 Now I am right! :D Only you could care with yourself being Thick
Kyleakin Lofts Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 Only you could care with yourself being Thick Slow to learn. Deliberate and good looking, so I have to accept that I can't have it all, yet. :)
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