Louella Pigeons For Stock

[eagle79]

owen you know your onions my friendyes your right there will be duffers but your trying with grand children of pigeons who have beat 10000 birds in a race line bread in bread to try and hold the genes your not using a pigeon who has beat 140 home in a club race I hope you under stand what im trying to say wines working its magic lol

[eagle79]

owen you know your onions my friendyes your right there will be duffers but your trying with grand children of pigeons who have beat 10000 birds in a race line bread in bread to try and hold the genes your not using a pigeon who has beat 140 home in a club race I hope you under stand what im trying to say wines working its magic lol

[eagle79]

can I just finish by saying pedigree or blood which ever you want to call it is every thing. basket saughts them out winner to winner bla bla young birds sold as bred from winners that's pedigree, if genes are not locked in your knackered. shoot me down im tipsie lol

[eagle79]

good advice Owen

 

 

 

good advice also

[eagle79]

just ask me your gona start with eggs or young birds of widow hood cocks are they mated to champion hens will there genes gel? are they bred from champions each and every one im drunk but I shall be sober in the morning lol take care

[eagle79]

im nearly finished my ranting for the night but any person wishing to breed a champion pay particular attension to the hen she must be the best gened hen you can afford she must have the blood of champions in her veins this is for the novices at breeding the top men no this already

[just ask me]

Eagle your asking a number of questions on the question on widdowhood hens these will be all within the same family of pigeons and will have raced as youngbirds i can't speak for other people but i always have top class hens with my racer cocks i even have moved hens that i had placed in my stock loft into my widdowhood cocks so i could get a round of young ones off certain cocks so don't doubt the hens that may not be raced by a widdowhood flyer

 

on breeding breed 2 good ones together and cross your fingers and hope the pair clicks

 

 

More time has been wasted by new starters wondering why this bird won't breed winners when its a grandchild to a certain pigeon and they simply can't understand what's going on they keep trying only to breed a few middle of the road birds which end up breaking there heart

 

Hard selection will be your route to success and hard work bits of paper will never win you anything only heartache

[dal2]

Blood will tell!!!!

 

ALWAYS

[Guest chad3646]

can I just finish by saying pedigree or blood which ever you want to call it is every thing. basket saughts them out winner to winner bla bla young birds sold as bred from winners that's pedigree, if genes are not locked in your knackered. shoot me down im tipsie lol

 

 

bang bang lol

[eagle79]

Eagle your asking a number of questions on the question on widdowhood hens these will be all within the same family of pigeons and will have raced as youngbirds i can't speak for other people but i always have top class hens with my racer cocks i even have moved hens that i had placed in my stock loft into my widdowhood cocks so i could get a round of young ones off certain cocks so don't doubt the hens that may not be raced by a widdowhood flyer

 

on breeding breed 2 good ones together and cross your fingers and hope the pair clicks

 

 

More time has been wasted by new starters wondering why this bird won't breed winners when its a grandchild to a certain pigeon and they simply can't understand what's going on they keep trying only to breed a few middle of the road birds which end up breaking there heart

 

Hard selection will be your route to success and hard work bits of paper will never win you anything only heartache

[Novice]

am I wrong here breeding be it a carrot horse dog or pigeon is about genes,then you line breed possibly in breed to lock in the ones you want;louella have done this for you then you outcross with another breedof pigeon for vigour if you get the right nick fantastic I believe pure janssen nicks with a lot ofbreeds for example but breeding winner to winner that is not related could be a lottery no ??? but if they are related that's fine you have the locked in genes to carry on your work shoot me down if you need to ive been having my bottle of wine I think I know it all lol

 

 

You will only breed better if you start with sound specimens. Even a complete duffer can have a world beating pedigree but will breed nothing of value. Don't become obsessed with pedigree. It's the bird which is important.

[walterboswell59]

well bred or not the basket must be your judge with any offspring but also the birds have to suite and thrive on your way of working them

[eagle79]

just ask me yes you have a family of pigeons most likely line bred possibly in bred youll keep records of what you do you put winner to winner to the best of your ability, your doing what louella does on a smaller scale. buying young of your widowhood cocks makes them grand children of your stock birds. are your stock birds grand children as good as louellas is every body else using hens as good as the ones you use I enjoy the banter take care and remember you've got to have a dream other wise how you gona have a dream come true lol eagle

[gulkie]

Just keep it in mind and don't be fooled studs breed as much rubbish as the rest of us

The only way you will find stock is to breed from them ,and the same with the racers is

Race them,and breed winner to winner .

[geordie1234]

If I was to go to a stud it would be louella I'd go to

[gulkie]

If I was to go to a stud it would be louella I'd go to

George have bought some outstanding birds from Louella in the past ,but there is a

Certain time to buy from fanciers and studs,when they are at the top.OMO.

[eagle79]

well bred or not the basket must be your judge with any offspring but also the birds have to suite and thrive on your way of working them

I agree get good ped birds breed of them and test them

[Guest chad3646]

louella is just like any other stud some get winners some get rubbish, what did you get ?

[eagle79]

If I was to go to a stud it would be louella I'd go to

me to

 

louella is just like any other stud some get winners some get rubbish, what did you get ?

very nice ones my friend very nice ones

[eagle79]

George have bought some outstanding birds from Louella in the past ,but there is a

Certain time to buy from fanciers and studs,when they are at the top.OMO.

interesting reply I like to buy older type bird of them spend hours looking for the one that I want better than going to pictures glass of wine weeeheeeee

[eagle79]

louella is just like any other stud some get winners some get rubbish, what did you get ?

cant argue with that not even I could dispute that lol eagle

[gladiator lofts]

just ask me your gona start with eggs or young birds of widow hood cocks are they mated to champion hens will there genes gel? are they bred from champions each and every one im drunk but I shall be sober in the morning lol take care

WHAT CAME FIRST THE PIGEON OR THE EGG????

[eagle79]

I have bought birds from Luella in the past but I have never done much good with them. I think that the birds from Luella have brilliant birds back in their breeding but there are generations of untested birds by the time you get their progeny on the road which makes the whole thing a matter of luck. All breeding must be a matter of breeding from the best birds you can and testing the youngsters on the road. As any geneticist will tell you all selection is through progeny testing and careful selection. People often say that untried birds can breed winners and it is a fact that some do but what you are never told is how many untried birds breed rubbish. I believe that the main reasons why many people fail to develop a team of good pigeons is because they insist on breeding from either untried birds or from everything and anything that happens to be in the loft. This rather crazy idea is often followed by the practice of breeding latebred birds which are never given a proper chance to learn to become racing pigeons.

I am sure that if you buy a good number of birds from Luella and test them on the road you will find some that would be worth breeding from, but that could apply to anywhere you obtain birds.

If I had to start again I would buy tried and tested birds from Entire Clearance Sales and breed lots of youngsters from 10 or so hens mated to the cocks on a Bull System. You will find that some hens will not suite the cock and give you nothing but rubbish while other hens will breed youngsters well worth their perch. After that it is a question of breeding from the best so that you can have a gradual and continual improvement as you go.

thanks for that very good reply, you obviously no your onions but there is a small trick that has to be used when buying inbreed pigeons other wise you finish up with nothing thanks very much for reply eagle

[eagle79]

Blood will tell!!!!

 

ALWAYS

I agree if the pigeon does not have the genes it can not pass them on

[eagle79]

You will only breed better if you start with sound specimens. Even a complete duffer can have a world beating pedigree but will breed nothing of value. Don't become obsessed with pedigree. It's the bird which is important.

I agree the louella birds are specimens that are grand children of birds that have beaten 10 to 20 thousand birds in a race they aint gonna fall to pieces in 2 generations not the way they breed ty for reply eagle