We man Posted June 26, 2014 Report Posted June 26, 2014 Some time ago Big da suggested racing from Ireland and the more I think about it maybe not a bad idea,a few races before our channel races start would it be good for yearlings and birds which had not been across the water to get used to it before they go to 500+? not a Pilgrim yet but would like to know your thoughts,if any.
Guest bigda Posted June 26, 2014 Report Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) glad you read my threads mate, and yes the national was founded on races from Ireland, as far down as Skibereen A DISTANCE OF 340 ODD MILE into Glasgow and if and after there st malo awaits the next stage for the nat, IF billy bilsland wins again, TRUST ME there will be more wanting to race from there, the Irish lads race out of Girvan and strathclyde park. it is the bravest birds, that win from there AND the birds and all have a chance as they will star burst for home, not like the way it is now in indian file through bop country glens , and also there is nothing in the road like hills to come through for all. and it is in the proper place for north south flying, such is the lie of the land Edited June 26, 2014 by bigda
We man Posted June 26, 2014 Author Report Posted June 26, 2014 glad you read my threads mate, and yes the national was founded on races from Ireland, as far down as Skibereen A DISTANCE OF 340 ODD MILE into Glasgow and if and after there st malo awaits the next stage for the nat, IF billy bilsland wins again, TRUST ME there will be more wanting to race from there, the Irish lads race out of Girvan and strathclyde park. it is the bravest birds, that win from there AND the birds and all have a chance as they will star burst for home, not like the way it is now in indian file through bop country glens , and also there is nothing in the road like hills to come through for all. and it is in the proper place for north south flying, such is the lie of the landLooks like everyone happy to carry on east then west then back to east then west,ah well as usual easy pleased and don't rock the boat or you wont have a fed,its a good idea big da,IMO consider me a Pilgrim.
Guest bigda Posted June 26, 2014 Report Posted June 26, 2014 TAXI FOR 2 by the way, the nat was one,twice in coatbridge from skibereen if i join, you might have a problem beating me
Guest stb- Posted June 26, 2014 Report Posted June 26, 2014 by the way, the nat was one,twice in coatbridge from skibereen if i join, you might have a problem beating meIF ill take that as a NAWthen by the way, the nat was one,twice in coatbridge from skibereen if i join, you might have a problem beating meYOULL NEVER BEAT THE WEE TALLY FAE MISCALLY .FAT TONY BALATELLI
Guest bigda Posted June 26, 2014 Report Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) IF ill take that as a NAWthen nope, do you want me to make you a good challenge you up for it Edited June 26, 2014 by bigda
Kyleakin Lofts Posted June 26, 2014 Report Posted June 26, 2014 IF ill take that as a NAWthen nope, do you want me to make you a good challenge you up for it I'll race from Ireland, you organise it.
Guest bigda Posted June 26, 2014 Report Posted June 26, 2014 ame='bigda' date='26 June 2014 - 23:06 PM' timestamp='1403820407' post='925785'] I'll race from Ireland, you organise it. you guys would have great races from there with west winds fast racing and the bop only been able to go for the one pigeon at a time instead of the ambush they set up it is possible the way things are going, if there is more wining in the east there will be no national and it will be back to a combine from Ireland
gulkie Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 I quite fancied racing from Ireland ,but I would like to hear from some of the Irish ladsI don't believe they get an easy time from the BOPS ,hate the thought of agreeing with Big Da.
We man Posted June 27, 2014 Author Report Posted June 27, 2014 I quite fancied racing from Ireland ,but I would like to hear from some of the Irish ladsI don't believe they get an easy time from the BOPS ,hate the thought of agreeing with Big Da.lol
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 I quite fancied racing from Ireland ,but I would like to hear from some of the Irish ladsI don't believe they get an easy time from the BOPS ,hate the thought of agreeing with Big Da. Gulkie the pilgrim lol
Kyleakin Lofts Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 I quite fancied racing from Ireland ,but I would like to hear from some of the Irish ladsI don't believe they get an easy time from the BOPS ,hate the thought of agreeing with Big Da. BOP are as bad over there as they are over here. I think Bigda's point is that our pigeons wouldn't have to work through the Sperrins or wherever else they would be easy pickings and after crossing the Irish Sea into West of Scotland they could fan out to approach their home lofts without the channelling through the southern hills where the BOP again have easy pickings. Lots of BOP in Ayrshire, especially southern sections, but more leeway to escape.There is some sense in what he says. Kyleakin the Pilgrim.
kingbilly 1 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 big da your the man if you cant fix it no 1 can AM UP FOR IT 2
novo10 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 big da your the man if you cant fix it no 1 can AM UP FOR IT 2ur just wantin overfly lol
Kyleakin Lofts Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 C'mon Novo, support Bigda and the Pilgrims.
bibendium Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 Much as the idea would appeal to me , I feel the birds would get slaughtered when coming over the southern Ayrshire coast, not many Ayrshire fanciers train down that route any more. and totally disagree with Kyleakin ,apart from going back out to sea there is no leeway to escape.
Kyleakin Lofts Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 Much as the idea would appeal to me , I feel the birds would get slaughtered when coming over the southern Ayrshire coast, not many Ayrshire fanciers train down that route any more. and totally disagree with Kyleakin ,apart from going back out to sea there is no leeway to escape. You've read my post incorrectly Charlie. I stated that I thought that was Bigda's idea. I mentioned the BOP in South Ayrshire since that would probably be the arrival point in Scotland. You only have to look at the state of the fancy in Galloway area to see the decline which will no doubt be in part to the BOP situation. Why do Ayrshire pigeons arrive from southern race points in the direction of the north west coast? I don't think they are crap and follow the other pigeons causing them to retrace, I think they have found a way of circumnavigating the worst of the BOP combined to the Eastern race route the majority of them have raced.
bibendium Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 You've read my post incorrectly Charlie. I stated that I thought that was Bigda's idea. I mentioned the BOP in South Ayrshire since that would probably be the arrival point in Scotland. You only have to look at the state of the fancy in Galloway area to see the decline which will no doubt be in part to the BOP situation. Why do Ayrshire pigeons arrive from southern race points in the direction of the north west coast? I don't think they are crap and follow the other pigeons causing them to retrace, I think they have found a way of circumnavigating the worst of the BOP combined to the Eastern race route the majority of them have raced. Read it again Andy , looks like we are saying the same thing.I am hoping the Ayrshire YBS can redetermine the existing westerly route , as I beleive that a lot of the losses experienced this season are due to birds that have flown on the easterly routes were disorientated and taking as you say the long way round. We can but hope.
kingbilly 1 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 Much as the idea would appeal to me , I feel the birds would get slaughtered when coming over the southern Ayrshire coast, not many Ayrshire fanciers train down that route any more. and totally disagree with Kyleakin ,apart from going back out to sea there is no leeway to escape.you boys would be getting the first drop of the doos insted of the last i wonder who would be moveing next to win a big race lol
Guest bigda Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) if the lanarkshire guys went to any races in Ireland did you know that 2 mile over fly splits all members bar one guy and if the guys from the east be it Edinburgh or Dundee the get there correct measure of 32 mile and 55 mile no one has hills that the birds have to make there way around and should we amalgamate up with the irish guys we could take there doos to race points and they take ours meaning that the fed only need to have a ferry trip every 2 weeks just like the Irish as baskets could be arranged and changed in the dock yard allowing the paid return truck that week and the other truck a free ferry fare. using Irish baskets one week they use ours, WE COULD GIVE THE IRISH A RACE OF ABOUT 500 MILE AND THEM GIVE US ABOUT 340 MILE BUT WE WOULD HAVE THE faster racing with a west wind as it would be a near tail wind most weeks sorry 500 mile also if nat is used Edited June 27, 2014 by bigda
Guest bigda Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) races from ireland 1894 dublin g@w hamilton govan 193 mile velocity 1307 thuries 1895 ws anderson monkton 226 mile vel 1049 cork 1896 w paterson renfrew skibereen 1897 g brownlie coatbridge 360 mile 1898 j h johnstone uddingston 360 mile1899 j burns larkhall 362 mile vel 10281900 j h johnstone uddingston 360 vel 10 201901 j e taylor langside vel 946 1902 g hamilton govan 346 mile vel 10 68 Edited June 28, 2014 by bigda
Guest chad3646 Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 races from ireland 1894 dublin g@w hamilton govan 193 mile velocity 1307 thuries 1895 ws anderson monkton 226 mile vel 1049 cork 1896 w paterson renfrew skibereen 1897 g brownlie coatbridge 360 mile 1898 j h johnstone uddingston 360 mile1899 j burns larkhall 362 mile vel 10281900 j h johnstone uddingston 360 vel 10 201901 j e taylor langside vel 946 1902 g hamilton govan 346 mile vel 10 68 aye and not a peregrine in sight
R.A.M.C.63 Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 if the lanarkshire guys went to any races in Ireland did you know that 2 mile over fly splits all members bar one guy and if the guys from the east be it Edinburgh or Dundee the get there correct measure of 32 mile and 55 mile no one has hills that the birds have to make there way around and should we amalgamate up with the irish guys we could take there doos to race points and they take ours meaning that the fed only need to have a ferry trip every 2 weeks just like the Irish as baskets could be arranged and changed in the dock yard allowing the paid return truck that week and the other truck a free ferry fare. using Irish baskets one week they use ours, WE COULD GIVE THE IRISH A RACE OF ABOUT 500 MILE AND THEM GIVE US ABOUT 340 MILE BUT WE WOULD HAVE THE faster racing with a west wind as it would be a near tail wind most weeks sorry 500 mile also if nat is used Wouldn,t say much for the Doo,s :emoticon-0127-lipssealed: blow hame very week, :emoticon-0136-giggle: be aswell thrown paper bag up :emoticon-0138-thinking: 1st head on WIND na see doo,s again OR paper bag :lol: ps. are the dundee boys in the Lanarkshire :emoticon-0138- thinking:
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