bigbill Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 use 2 large baskets mate, just catch them , no system , that way I can check if bird is alright to go,
eagle79 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Posted July 4, 2014 use 2 large baskets mate, just catch them , no system , that way I can check if bird is alright to go,do they feel like lead balloons or do they feel good bigbill eagle
eagle79 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Posted July 4, 2014 No feel find ,im schooling 5 hens and they feel like 2 ton tessies ill get there eagle
eagle79 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Posted July 4, 2014 bigbill theres a site called how far is it between tells you exact distance as crow flies its free to
eagle79 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Posted July 4, 2014 Birds coming on fine 15 mile 22mins 1 back a bit hurt so out of the game for a while .glad to get a comparison time how many chucks they had is that as crow flies how many you send give the novices some idea im ok ive been doing it for 3 weeks now quite the pro lol
eagle79 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Posted July 4, 2014 glad to get a comparison time how many chucks they had is that as crow flies how many you send give the novices some idea im ok ive been doing it for 3 weeks now quite the pro lolwhen I was 10 years old I got on my bike with 6 pigeons peddled 10 mile with birds 5 mile to tyne bridge over bridge 5 miles along sunderland road let pigeons up on Gateshead banks my house was half a mile from tyne north side banks half a mile from tyne south side pigeons travelled 1 mile eagle went 10 mile always quote as crow flies I was 25 before I realised my mistake. my mistake that's the name of my 1st greyhound but that's another story I digress.
eagle79 Posted July 5, 2014 Author Report Posted July 5, 2014 use 2 large baskets mate, just catch them , no system , that way I can check if bird is alright to go,big bil when your checking them what you looking for could you elaborate please eagle
bigbill Posted July 8, 2014 Report Posted July 8, 2014 training toss today from 22ml 50/50 in 35min , time to move them up to 40mls next toss
kirky Posted July 8, 2014 Report Posted July 8, 2014 had mine away twice now only at 12 mls all home each time so far,will move them on next week, beat me home each time so dont no how long it took them.
kirky Posted July 9, 2014 Report Posted July 9, 2014 away again with ybs should beat them home today fresh head wind. all home be it a bit late had me worried with the strong wind.
Guest Owen Posted July 9, 2014 Report Posted July 9, 2014 If you want to win races you need to train your birds to fly straight home without being influenced by other birds. The last thing you want is for them to go off ranging or playing about.I start mine off at 6 miles and keep them there until they are doing 60 mph regularly. I then move them to 10 miles and do the same again. I then split the sexes and release them separately in two bunches at first and when I am happy they are doing the trip at 60 mph I let them go in 6s then 4s and when they are used to it 2s.All this takes a little bit more time but it works well.If I find the birds are slow I will take them twice a day and cut the food down so that they will try harder.My aim is to train the birds to race home.
kirky Posted July 9, 2014 Report Posted July 9, 2014 If you want to win races you need to train your birds to fly straight home without being influenced by other birds. The last thing you want is for them to go off ranging or playing about.I start mine off at 6 miles and keep them there until they are doing 60 mph regularly. I then move them to 10 miles and do the same again. I then split the sexes and release them separately in two bunches at first and when I am happy they are doing the trip at 60 mph I let them go in 6s then 4s and when they are used to it 2s.All this takes a little bit more time but it works well.If I find the birds are slow I will take them twice a day and cut the food down so that they will try harder.My aim is to train the birds to race home.thay would not have done 60 mph today 26 mph head wind,
dal2 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Posted July 9, 2014 If you want to win races you need to train your birds to fly straight home without being influenced by other birds. The last thing you want is for them to go off ranging or playing about.I start mine off at 6 miles and keep them there until they are doing 60 mph regularly. I then move them to 10 miles and do the same again. I then split the sexes and release them separately in two bunches at first and when I am happy they are doing the trip at 60 mph I let them go in 6s then 4s and when they are used to it 2s.All this takes a little bit more time but it works well.If I find the birds are slow I will take them twice a day and cut the food down so that they will try harder.My aim is to train the birds to race home.Wow. I train mine 5/6 times out to 30 miles then stick them into the first race. You are truly dedicated
geordie1234 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Posted July 9, 2014 If you want to win races you need to train your birds to fly straight home without being influenced by other birds. The last thing you want is for them to go off ranging or playing about.I start mine off at 6 miles and keep them there until they are doing 60 mph regularly. I then move them to 10 miles and do the same again. I then split the sexes and release them separately in two bunches at first and when I am happy they are doing the trip at 60 mph I let them go in 6s then 4s and when they are used to it 2s.All this takes a little bit more time but it works well.If I find the birds are slow I will take them twice a day and cut the food down so that they will try harder.My aim is to train the birds to race home.So 10 mile is the furthest you train Owen?
kirky Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 no training today too windy already had yb hit a wirer this morning when let out, will have to check them all over before i put them in the baskets to see if any damage was done.
Guest Owen Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 I train my pigeons to race home because I live in a bad area. At one time I could never win a race because people in better positions would have the advantage. I was at that time faced with a choice of either developing a team of long distance pigeons to iron out the unfairness of my position or finding a way to get my birds to take a better route. I also have to teach my birds to trap fast so that I was not going to lose precious time through bad traps.I decided to concentrate on training my birds to win short and middle distance races which is all about management and training.In regard to the comment about the speed of my birds on their route home. Obviously, the wind direction will have an effect on their speed. In regard to my dedication to training. The way I look at it is that my pigeons are far less vulnerable to falcon attack when I train and just like anybody who wants to be at the top of their sport, practice and training is vital if you want to get the best results.Many people think that it is a good idea to train with others which to me is teaching the pigeons to enjoy the refuge of flying in large groups. I want my birds to be able to fly over the last 10 miles to home with confidence and not be put off by other pigeons. I need my birds to fly hard and fast which I think they will only do if they know the route really well. Just like humans or horses short bursts of fast exercise will have a better benefit for the bird's fitness than slugging it out. I believe that there is a place for longer training tosses but not until the birds have matured and are being prepared for long distance racing. 10 miles on the line of flight on a regular basis works especially if you go to the extra trouble of releasing the birds in twos.
kirky Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 I train my pigeons to race home because I live in a bad area. At one time I could never win a race because people in better positions would have the advantage. I was at that time faced with a choice of either developing a team of long distance pigeons to iron out the unfairness of my position or finding a way to get my birds to take a better route. I also have to teach my birds to trap fast so that I was not going to lose precious time through bad traps.I decided to concentrate on training my birds to win short and middle distance races which is all about management and training.In regard to the comment about the speed of my birds on their route home. Obviously, the wind direction will have an effect on their speed. In regard to my dedication to training. The way I look at it is that my pigeons are far less vulnerable to falcon attack when I train and just like anybody who wants to be at the top of their sport, practice and training is vital if you want to get the best results.Many people think that it is a good idea to train with others which to me is teaching the pigeons to enjoy the refuge of flying in large groups. I want my birds to be able to fly over the last 10 miles to home with confidence and not be put off by other pigeons. I need my birds to fly hard and fast which I think they will only do if they know the route really well. Just like humans or horses short bursts of fast exercise will have a better benefit for the bird's fitness than slugging it out. I believe that there is a place for longer training tosses but not until the birds have matured and are being prepared for long distance racing. 10 miles on the line of flight on a regular basis works especially if you go to the extra trouble of releasing the birds in twos. like i said earlier the last 12 mls win races, total wash out today no training
blue pied Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 was waiting on 1 from a toss yesterday, it came this morning with a big hole in its crop, must have hit an wire
kirky Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 was waiting on 1 from a toss yesterday, it came this morning with a big hole in its crop, must have hit an wire when training ive seen a few dead on the road dew to flying low in head winds over the roads.
kirky Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 good traning today all sat on perches when i got back, time to move them on next week.
kirky Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 Had them away today 30mls 50/50 great toss how many times away did u do to get them to 30ml.
bigbill Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 how many times away did u do to get them to 30ml.that was my 12th toss , so had them at 8mls 10mls 15mls and then 3 20mls
eagle79 Posted July 12, 2014 Author Report Posted July 12, 2014 Had them away today 30mls 50/50 great toss how long did it take them did they come together is that as crow flys
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