Maybe Why People Don't Report Strays..

[andyyy]

tonight had the widowhood cocks out and there was trying to drop on houses (which they don't usually do) and i looked and there was a stray on there which came across and dropped into my loft. Picked it up and it was stamped so i range the man, Who then denied even owning the bird. After a bit of argument with him he said oh it's mine, Do you want it. I told him i didn't want it and he said. 'can you get someone to come this way and chuck it up'

 

Clearly didn't give s damn about his bird.

[paddymac]

These are the kind of people that get the fancy a bad name with joe public

[Delboy]

Fekin azzhole, id be making the .*expletive removed* come for it m8.

[andyyy]

i agree with you padymac, Should have just been honest about it and it wouldn't have been a problem.

I would delboy but i just wasn't in the mood to argue with him, it's a shame coz its a lovely mealy hen

[Guest GAV]

Sadly this is the case all to often, really cant understand people like this, thought when you report a bird the owner had 7 days to collect

[walterboswell59]

im not saying its right or an excuse but some guys just cant aford 40 or 50 pound to get them back dont know the anser its a hard one

[andyyy]

If that's the case you say that not say its not your bird when the wing stamp clearly states its your bird,

[Delboy]

im not saying its right or an excuse but some guys just cant aford 40 or 50 pound to get them back dont know the anser its a hard one

 

Your right Walter but there is a manner you should have. We should all work together regarding strays as it is a very expensive sport.

[Walter swanston]

I usually get a good few strays here in Moffat each season especially with young birds.After many strained phone calls over the years I usually feed and water them for a few days and then drive up toSouth Lanarkshire, probably about Abington and libertate from there.

[PIGEONPACKMAN]

im not saying its right or an excuse but some guys just cant aford 40 or 50 pound to get them back dont know the anser its a hard one

Dont agree walter if your willing to bread them you should expect losses and birds getting reported its the same old saying live within your means, now andy may have to take someone elses bird s in.

[andyyy]

Agree with you both, But pigeonpackman is 100% right.

If you are willing to breed you should be willing to send for a pigeon if need be, I could have been a none fancier, Then what would he do?

i get loads of strays at my loft and i always do my best by them, Weather it be feed them up and then release or just give them a roof for a night.

The problem with the man i question is that he denied owning the bird, and he tried his best to say it wasn't his. If i was a none fancier then i would have been made to believe and i'd have been stuck with the bird.

The pigeon is now sitting in a spare hut in a nest box where the strays live, I will give her a day or two and then release her, And she hopefully can be returned to the owner.

[Delboy]

Dont agree walter if your willing to bread them you should expect losses and birds getting reported its the same old saying live within your means, now andy may have to take someone elses bird s in.

 

Live within your means ???? what if you breed only 12 and have a fly away and 8 reported ?? NOT TOO MUCH FUN FOR A NEWSTART IS IT ? WE MUST HELP EACH OTHER

[andyyy]

if you looser birds, you have got to exspect to have them reported, Last year i lost about 10 young birds, i bet 8 of them got reported, i had to send for one because it was miles away, The others after been polite and aranging with the finder to help me get them home, they worked there way home, i agree we should be helping each other out, But sometimes people don't help themselves.

[William Reid]

Nine out of ten pigeons that get lost is down to the pigeon fancier . .

By then the damage is done .

[andyyy]

Nine out of ten pigeons that get lost is down to the pigeon fancier . .

By then the damage is done .

 

Can't agree with that, it's down to lots of things, and some good birds get lost too.

Me personally like t give all birds a fair chance, just like i would hope fellow fanciers would give mine

[Delboy]

Nine out of ten pigeons that get lost is down to the pigeon fancier . .

By then the damage is done .

 

THE TRUTH

[walterboswell59]

If that's the case you say that not say its not your bird when the wing stamp clearly states its your bird,

agree 100 percent andy no need to lie

[Guest stb-]

Your right Walter but there is a manner you should have. We should all work together regarding strays as it is a very expensive sport.

The financial cost of returning birds if diabolical Del, if ye had 4 or 5 reported in a week you would be declaring yourself bankrupt nowadays expletive remove

[frankdooman]

I can't disagree with the fact that wee should send for the bird but as Walter says it's now very expensive and wee can help here if wee enforce the union rule all wee will do is drive the fanciers out and it's in enough problems just now without us turning the screw so just offer to take care of the situation and say I can find a good home for it sorted but wee need to loose a wee bit of stubourness don't mean this as a dig at any one as I've felt like you as well but times have changed

[walterboswell59]

Your right Walter but there is a manner you should have. We should all work together regarding strays as it is a very expensive sport.

your not wrong dell

[Guest stb-]

I can't disagree with the fact that wee should send for the bird but as Walter says it's now very expensive and wee can help here if wee enforce the union rule all wee will do is drive the fanciers out and it's in enough problems just now without us turning the screw so just offer to take care of the situation and say I can find a good home for it sorted but wee need to loose a wee bit of stubourness don't mean this as a dig at any one as I've felt like you as well but times have changed

agree 100%

[PIGEONPACKMAN]

But he bloke in question denied all responsability sould you want to help himl l wouldn, t, l agree we should help each other thats why l have taken strays in myself and will continue to do so but, l have fed them up drove out of my way to release them at the end of the day all he had to say was yes its my bird but l cant afford to collect it and arrange something between each themselves.

[frankdooman]

But he bloke in question denied all responsability sould you want to help himl l wouldn, t, l agree we should help each other thats why l have taken strays in myself and will continue to do so but, l have fed them up drove out of my way to release them at the end of the day all he had to say was yes its my bird but l cant afford to collect it and arrange something between each themselves.

 

 

Yes I do the same I seem to be in a pos that I've had more than 25 in a season every one reported or fed and liberated nearer home but this is a sign of the times wee need to move with then or self disstruct our sport

[Roland]

Yes STB, you are 100% RIGHT. In today's climate it IS the fact that one can't afford to lose one. A fly away losing 30 and getting 23 reported at £35 a throw would make my eyes water that's for sure. Youngster on basic wage with mortgage and a couple of lad a a girl wanting what other children are having and a wife saying it has to be so etc. takes a sizeable chore in earning every week. Cutting clothe to make ends meet is bad enough without the wife saying YOUR hobby is unimportant and a waste of money! Then to top it ignorant gits spouting 'Well if they can't afford it then they shouldn't have them....' means more pack up and many more won't start ... then the ignorant gits spout about the costs of sending birds and club fees etc. The whinge and moan moan about the price of a bag of corn.... Breed a 100 youngsters or so to make up for their losses ... and curse and whinge none stop.

It is the simple reality why the governing bodies - in my opinion - are lenient and turn a blind eye.

These people needs common sense and reality to prevail and a helping hand with tolerance, not lambasted by those that should know better.

Yes I agree the ignorant git like the twit spouting it isn't his bird wants to be told it will be sent by courier C.O.D. which may also incur over night housing costs etc.

So yes it it depends a lot on attitude of the owner I know. But we can ALL help and SHOULD help each other.

WE can all send and release a bird after a few days fed and watered. It costs nowt and may well keep a fancier in the sport. The more in.... the less the costs.

Most have, and it has always been the vast majority, in the 56years I've been associated with the sport, a fact that the 'Working Class' are the main stay and grass roots of the fancy. The vast majority - who cared about there domestic duty's struggle some what. BUT they USED to pull together in the main. Never mind this 'Bully for me and tough muck to him' attitude, the one-upmanship etc. This sport needs more than ever for ALL to help and encourage those finding it tough to stay in the game … let alone enticing more to join us.

Yes 'andyyy' should be peeved and rightly so. Yes I believe that particular so – called fancier wants sorting … but don't let us CONTINUE to tar all with the same brush!

[OLDYELLOW]

Yup there will always be a element that give good fanciers bad names , totally wrong of this guy to deny ownership but a email to union would of sorted that out . I think stray rules at best need to be updated I can see both sides of the argument , no one likes to lose money in having birds returned in a box . We have a vast network of fanciers all around the country and from time to time have helped loads of fanciers have there birds returned for free . Wagons should all bring back the stray basket and allow strays to be released after liberation of birds , this would get most birds home . Then if people stamped location you live and or phone number on there birds this would also help those that want to feed your bird up and give it a helping hand back home . We do need to help ourselves and when we find these people we should tell them how there coming across and bringing down the good name of our sport , if was me I'd be ringing the union up to find his secretary and putting a complaint in about his conduct , it costs nowt to be honest and frank and if your pleasant enough people will go out of there way to help your birds get home