andy Burgess Posted February 20, 2014 Report Posted February 20, 2014 wondering how many of your race team are related ? not a strain like Jan Arden , but brother,s ,sister,s ,son,s daughter,s etc ??
OLDYELLOW Posted February 20, 2014 Report Posted February 20, 2014 have 2 brothers and a sister from same year in there at moment and a few related , another couple of brothers and cousin be quiet a few related with different variations to see what works what don't bit like making a curry plenty of ingredients in the mix it's getting them right I guess
alex young Posted February 20, 2014 Report Posted February 20, 2014 The birds I have now I got in 2005 and are getting quite close not having any other birds into them other than related birds from the same source.This season I will be crossing a couple of pairs with some Here/Ceusters to see how they go.
stan the man Posted February 20, 2014 Report Posted February 20, 2014 I have in my race team. 23 brothers and sisters and have half brothers and sisters and aunties . all bread down from 1 hen.
OLDYELLOW Posted February 20, 2014 Report Posted February 20, 2014 I think most lofts will have related birds unless constantly chopping and changing I have in my race team. 23 brothers and sisters and have half brothers and sisters and aunties . all bread down from 1 hen. Get some photos up be there like peas in a pod
stan the man Posted February 20, 2014 Report Posted February 20, 2014 I think most lofts will have related birds unless constantly chopping and changing Get some photos up be there like peas in a pod sorry mark ive been trying for days too put photos up. for some reason my laptop wont let me.
andyyy Posted February 20, 2014 Report Posted February 20, 2014 I have a pair what breeds good birds every year so out of that pair there's about 6 widowhood cocks out of that pair
fletch Posted February 20, 2014 Report Posted February 20, 2014 21 cocks 13 are related i.e brothers fathers or related down from 1 pigeon cock
walterboswell59 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Posted February 20, 2014 all of mine are related in some way or other as thats the way i set out to breed them think i have about 70 for racing and all related to each other
paddymac Posted February 20, 2014 Report Posted February 20, 2014 I have brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles cousins all in my race team which all relate back to a hen and her 2 sons
Guest Owen Posted February 20, 2014 Report Posted February 20, 2014 I deliberately set out to follow a policy of continual crossing to try to have as many unrelated birds as possible in the Stock Loft. I also have a policy of progeny testing which means that the birds that go to the Stock Loft have proven themselves as racers. Over the years certain birds and their relatives have chosen themselves to go to stock which clashes with my policy of continual crossing. I never breed from my racing pigeons so all my youngsters come from the best birds I own. It is unlikely that any of my birds would qualify for the Stock Loft much before they have completed their 2nd year on the road. So to answer your question, most of my birds were unrelated originally but as time goes on there are more and more cases of relatives gaining qualification for the Stock Loft.I have a round 30 cocks to race and there are cases of nest mates and brothers in the team purely because they have proven to be the best racers.There would be no way I would keep any bird to breed from just because it is said to be from a certain family or strain or because a relative has done something good. I am only prepared to keep the birds that have actually done well themselves. To be honest I believe that a major reason why people lose their pigeons and have disappointing results racing is because the birds they breed from are just not good enough. And the main reason why this is so is because people actually believe what is written in adverts and pedigrees.
budgie Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 Stick to the 98% rule and you wont have many related.
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