gibson83 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 I'm finding it hard to track down the breeder of these soontjens Can anyone help; Hens06Z4884904E1695708S1621004Z61553 COCKS07S3630803T1112608S1621908S16240
Novice Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 I'm finding it hard to track down the breeder of these soontjens Can anyone help; Hens06Z4884904E1695708S1621004Z61553 COCKS07S3630803T1112608S1621908S16240 If it's important to you phone or mail the appropriate union and ask who the rings were registered to. Personally I wouldn't bother it's the quality of the pigeon which is important.
dwh Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 I'm finding it hard to track down the breeder of these soontjens Can anyone help; Hens06Z4884904E1695708S1621004Z61553 COCKS07S3630803T1112608S1621908S16240TRY THE RPRA
OLDYELLOW Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 http://www.rpra.org/racing-handbook/ring-list-and-pricing/ up to 07 on site you can ring club secs up for who original ring was registered to If you contact R.P.R.A you will only know the last registered owner where you got them off
gibson83 Posted October 8, 2013 Author Report Posted October 8, 2013 Looks like they where ringed in multiple places - I'd just like to know more about them.
gibson83 Posted October 8, 2013 Author Report Posted October 8, 2013 If it's important to you phone or mail the appropriate union and ask who the rings were registered to. Personally I wouldn't bother it's the quality of the pigeon which is important. I understand that but I would like to know more about them before I have yb from them
Guest stb- Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 I understand that but I would like to know more about them before I have yb from themif they were ringed all over can you not ask the blokes you bought them from about them ???and how do you know there soontjens then
PIGEON_MAN Posted October 9, 2013 Report Posted October 9, 2013 If they are all GB rings I can tell you the clubs where they were originally issued to if thats any help.
gibson83 Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Posted October 9, 2013 They are all GB rings - pedigrees where stolen with previous owners van stb - I was told by seller they where soontjens originating from JS Lofts but speaking to Ian yesterday and he has confirmed they are not his.
PIGEON_MAN Posted October 9, 2013 Report Posted October 9, 2013 The following rings were issued to, 08.S.16210,16219,16240.Swinton DHSsec then was Mr.Frank Fenley01709 327891MexboroughSouth Yorkshire Will look up the others for you if it helps.
PIGEON_MAN Posted October 9, 2013 Report Posted October 9, 2013 The 04Z and 06Z ones were issued to the Midland National FC so sorry cant help with those,they will have to be reported to the RPRA to find out the last owners.
PIGEON_MAN Posted October 9, 2013 Report Posted October 9, 2013 03 T 11126,issued to Town End FC. sec was MR B BENTLEY 01709 874975 Rotherham S.Yorkshire.04 E 16957,issued to Midland National FC again.
gibson83 Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Posted October 9, 2013 Excellent - will the secs be able to tell me the fancier they where issued to?
PIGEON_MAN Posted October 9, 2013 Report Posted October 9, 2013 Excellent - will the secs be able to tell me the fancier they where issued to?Secretaries change over the years and so not all paperwork gets passed on to the new sec.you may have problems with the early rings but I would of thought the later ones the sec.should have details of whom the rings were issued to.Just a after thought but I have kept every ring list that the RPRA have issued, I believe the first one was in 1973 and I also have every list of rings that as been issued to members of our club going back to 1983 when I became secretary of the club.
gibson83 Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Posted October 9, 2013 07 S 36308 Andrew Shearon bred it and it is pure Jansen 03 T 11126 Mr Bentley bred it out of a pair bought from JS lofts pure soontjen All other where owned by kev smith in Rotherham - I'm just awaiting details on them
Guest stb- Posted October 9, 2013 Report Posted October 9, 2013 07 S 36308 Andrew Shearon bred it and it is pure Jansen 03 T 11126 Mr Bentley bred it out of a pair bought from JS lofts pure soontjen All other where owned by kev smith in Rotherham - I'm just awaiting details on themThats good at least your getting somewhere
gulkie Posted October 9, 2013 Report Posted October 9, 2013 If you plan to race them ,train them ,if you plan to breed of them ,and they breed winners Then there yours.(your own family).
gibson83 Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Posted October 9, 2013 Just breed from them - going from the info I now have there is some very good blood to have.
REDCHEQHEN Posted October 10, 2013 Report Posted October 10, 2013 Regards the MNFC Birds You could always message the secretary through the MNFC site - nothing ventured - nothing gained http://www.mnfc.org.uk/index.php?option=com_contact&view=contact&id=6&Itemid=210
PIGEON_MAN Posted October 10, 2013 Report Posted October 10, 2013 Regards the MNFC Birds You could always message the secretary through the MNFC site - nothing ventured - nothing gained http://www.mnfc.org.uk/index.php?option=com_contact&view=contact&id=6&Itemid=210Why take the chance of possibly upsetting the secretary when it clearly asks that you Please report to the RPRA.
REDCHEQHEN Posted October 10, 2013 Report Posted October 10, 2013 Why take the chance of possibly upsetting the secretary when it clearly asks that you Please report to the RPRA. Cos the RPRA will only know the last registered keeper - the secretary might know who the ring was issued to Same can be said for all GB rings - why bother with the secretaries of the other clubs - report direct to the RPRA! If a club secretary is going to be 'upset' by asking a question - he shouldn't be a secretary!!
gibson83 Posted October 10, 2013 Author Report Posted October 10, 2013 Chill out now guys :-) all tracked down on sorted Thanks for your help. Neil
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