ghostrider Posted July 26, 2013 Report Posted July 26, 2013 a friend of mine,put a thread up on this topic on another site,and is still in the dark.i thought builders lime..BUT isnt it a bit dodgy regarding respitory problems,to humans/pigeons.to be honest i aint got a clue either,so i thought id ask you knowledgable fella's... what is the best product to get and were from.And if there is such a product.... how much lime do you mix in to say with 3 bags of sharp sand. Stu. ps dont say 3 to 1
Guest geordiejen Posted July 26, 2013 Report Posted July 26, 2013 be carefull using lime i read recently that lime is alkaline and it can help salmonella and e-coli live longer on the loft floor.i dont use any floor dressing on my floor maybe someone who uses lime can give you a better opinion on it.
ghostrider Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Posted July 26, 2013 be carefull using lime i read recently that lime is alkaline and it can help salmonella and e-coli live longer on the loft floor.i dont use any floor dressing on my floor maybe someone who uses lime can give you a better opinion on it. and i thought it helped to kill/prevent bugs like that
blue lad Posted July 26, 2013 Report Posted July 26, 2013 I have used sharp sand for 2 years now .Due to working away for 4+5 weeks .Would not use anything else very easy to keep .birds are in top health clean feet droppings dry up in no time .I use a fine sieve once every now and then when a few acumulate .Have never used lime as yet .hope this helps.
R.A.M.C.63 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Posted July 26, 2013 Hi ghostrider here is my understanding of it, if u cean loft out and throw it on floor brush it in whatever, birds stirrin it into air not good to breath in. but if deep litter of ( droppings ) is being used perches boxes scraped on to floor, lime is scattered on top of droppings too DRY out any damp patches, lime seems to lik Moisture this why its not good too be in the air breathing in or getting in ur,s and pigeons eyes, mice dont lik walking on it gets in thier fur eyes, u find them dead and rotten away, getting back to deep litter every time u clean loft you just add bit more lime on droppings, eventully you will hav Dry Deep Litter any wet droppings cocci worms wont survive in Lime Saturated litter, you take odd bag of litter now and again if builds up, the Lime is attracted to damp so its not being thrown in air, so no set amount to use just keep ur deep litter Dry, hope this helps mate, Jmo Hi ghostrider here is my understanding of it, if u cean loft out and throw it on floor brush it in whatever, birds stirrin it into air not good to breath in. but if deep litter of ( droppings ) is being used perches boxes scraped on to floor, lime is scattered on top of droppings too DRY out any damp patches, lime seems to lik Moisture this why its not good too be in the air breathing in or getting in ur,s and pigeons eyes, mice dont lik walking on it gets in thier fur eyes, u find them dead and rotten away, getting back to deep litter every time u clean loft you just add bit more lime on droppings, eventully you will hav Dry Deep Litter any wet droppings cocci worms wont survive in Lime Saturated litter, you take odd bag of litter now and again if builds up, the Lime is attracted to damp so its not being thrown in air, so no set amount to use just keep ur deep litter Dry, hope this helps mate, Jmo
Tony C Posted July 26, 2013 Report Posted July 26, 2013 Ask your friend if he has considered using Easibed as a floor dressing. A depth of around 4 inches is ideal and no need to use sand/lime.
walterboswell59 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Posted July 26, 2013 a friend of mine,put a thread up on this topic on another site,and is still in the dark.i thought builders lime..BUT isnt it a bit dodgy regarding respitory problems,to humans/pigeons.to be honest i aint got a clue either,so i thought id ask you knowledgable fella's... what is the best product to get and were from.And if there is such a product.... how much lime do you mix in to say with 3 bags of sharp sand. Stu. ps dont say 3 to 1 garden lime is what the old guys used but dont know the mix m8
ghostrider Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Posted July 26, 2013 garden lime is what the old guys used but dont know the mix m8 THANKYOU,for the replysseems like sharp sand,to be on the safe sidedont want the youngsters getting stressed and going off form. warm regards Stu.
walterboswell59 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Posted July 26, 2013 Ask your friend if he has considered using Easibed as a floor dressing. A depth of around 4 inches is ideal and no need to use sand/lime.thats what i use tony only down side you carry it on your feet it goes everywhere even wear slippers in the loft but it dont help much m8
scottym7 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Posted July 26, 2013 I have used builders lime for years and never had a problem yet if u use it correctly, one thing i would say is deep litter in the floor and deep litter in the basket, i use the same so the birds rest easy, jmo, but some people know better. Scotty M
scottym7 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Posted July 26, 2013 be carefull using lime i read recently that lime is alkaline and it can help salmonella and e-coli live longer on the loft floor.i dont use any floor dressing on my floor maybe someone who uses lime can give you a better opinion on it. Maybe thats half your problem every year geordie sorry mate but think about it.
William Reid Posted July 27, 2013 Report Posted July 27, 2013 True deep litter is only the pigeons droppings and will only work properly when the air conditions in the loft are 100% correct . And is the best probiotic for the pigeons .
just ask me Posted July 27, 2013 Report Posted July 27, 2013 True deep litter is only the pigeons droppings and will only work properly when the air conditions in the loft are 100% correct . And is the best probiotic for the pigeons . bang on there shouldn't be any damp patches
Guest IB Posted July 27, 2013 Report Posted July 27, 2013 I haven't used lime in my deep litter for several years, but it was crushed natural limestone that I used, calcium carbonate i.e. garden or agricultural lime, and it was mixed in with the sand, rather than just sprinkled over it or on top of the droppings. I steered clear of the builders limes like slaked lime, because of reports in the pigeon press that it burnt the pigeons eyes. Mix in too much lime and it can 'dry-out' the birds feathers too, ie they loose their silky feel. The reason I mixed the lime with the sand was that I found I got a crust of dried droppings on top of the sand with a damp layer of sand directly underneath it. I was also told by a vet that sand was a poor dressing and it needed to be raked / turned over regularly. I ended up raking the top layer off once a week, bagging and binning it, turning over the remainder and adding lime. But that created horrendous dust clouds in the loft. Mind you the birds were out during this cleaning and ventilation soon sucked it out, but it didn't do me any good. Don't use either now. Moved on to stalosan (difficult to source a supplier and costly if you order on-line) and hempcore.
Guest IB Posted July 27, 2013 Report Posted July 27, 2013 be carefull using lime i read recently that lime is alkaline and it can help salmonella and e-coli live longer on the loft floor.i dont use any floor dressing on my floor maybe someone who uses lime can give you a better opinion on it. Remember that bleach is alkaline, chlorine and sodium hypochlorate are around ph11. I'm sure in times gone past limewash was used on farm buildings as a disinfectant.
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