just ask me Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 mine have been kept in all winter due to BOP but now getting to the time when we will start leaving them out how long more will you leave it
stan the man Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 mine have been kept in all winter due to BOP but now getting to the time when we will start leaving them out how long more will you leave it MY birds are out every day, they have been since the yb racing season finish,d , sept 2011. and they are out as we speak.
Guest Cawdy Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 yea same here the old man has them oot every day where possible. not into keeping birds locked up
gordi.b Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 mines are out at moment , patrolling garden with 12 bore.
frank-123 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 yea same here the old man has them oot every day where possible. not into keeping birds locked up how many birds have you lost over the winter?
andy Burgess Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 will go out when pairing up in about 3 - 4 weeks , only occasionaly and for a bath .however our "white doos" are out now ,and are out often they will be working on Tuesday at a funeral.
OLDYELLOW Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 I let mine rear then start letting them out doesn't take them long to get themselves fit
Guest IB Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 Basically get them out once a week during winter, weather permitting. Not lost any.
Guest lambrechts31 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 mine have been kept in all winter due to BOP but now getting to the time when we will start leaving them out how long more will you leave it MINE ARE OUT AT EVERY OPPERTUNATETY, WEATHER PERMITTING, MY OPPINION IS THEY HAVE TO BE STRRET WISE :emoticon-0140-rofl:
Guest Cawdy Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 how many birds have you lost over the winter? we haven't lost any over the winter im quite lucky weve not had many bop attacks at all over the years despite seeing them all the time
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 I like the birds out most days. They were on an open loft all last winter and we lost fewer to BOP over these months than a clubmate lost in 2 weeks having had his birds on lockdown from September to March. Its each to their own but I wouldn't personally like to be locked in a shed a for 5 or 6 months on end.
victorious Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 yea same here the old man has them oot every day where possible. not into keeping birds locked up same here out 24/7 MINE ARE OUT AT EVERY OPPERTUNATETY, WEATHER PERMITTING, MY OPPINION IS THEY HAVE TO BE STRRET WISE :emoticon-0140-rofl:
Guest bluemorning Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 hi matewhen to let them out depends on what problem you have,percy its hard to say but observe throught the day to see if your falcon is active note times of most activity and keep them in during these times but you want to try and alter your times of exercise cause bop aint thick and will soon learn that you pick the same time everyday.if you are hit keep them in for a few days no food on tap and they tend to look else where.with spars always check that you have not got one quartering as this gives them a great advantage,on really frosty days when ground is frozen small birds are in the hedgerows feeding and a lot harder to catch so be observant as pigeons will then come under attack never go and sit in the house be visable around the loft and try not to let them loft sit as spars use stealth to creep up on pigeons and need to be close to launch an attack,watch out from mid feb as female spars need to put on weight for breeding this is when i have noticed increase in intrest in pigeons but after the start of april the female spars are going to nest and should not bother you for a good few months but watch out for the odd unmated female.male spars a not a problem other than to spook your birds.come mid april onwards the swallows return and there alarm call will alert you to any bop.you have to learn a bit about your local bop to help yourself be observant. i know percy are a bigger problem but every little helps. good luck
victorious Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 yeh mine are streetwise to ive never lost a bird at home in 22 years when others living in my village have that tells me something but that system would not suit sprint pigeons nowadays only plodders.
just ask me Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Posted January 8, 2012 hi matewhen to let them out depends on what problem you have,percy its hard to say but observe throught the day to see if your falcon is active note times of most activity and keep them in during these times but you want to try and alter your times of exercise cause bop aint thick and will soon learn that you pick the same time everyday.if you are hit keep them in for a few days no food on tap and they tend to look else where.with spars always check that you have not got one quartering as this gives them a great advantage,on really frosty days when ground is frozen small birds are in the hedgerows feeding and a lot harder to catch so be observant as pigeons will then come under attack never go and sit in the house be visable around the loft and try not to let them loft sit as spars use stealth to creep up on pigeons and need to be close to launch an attack,watch out from mid feb as female spars need to put on weight for breeding this is when i have noticed increase in intrest in pigeons but after the start of april the female spars are going to nest and should not bother you for a good few months but watch out for the odd unmated female.male spars a not a problem other than to spook your birds.come mid april onwards the swallows return and there alarm call will alert you to any bop.you have to learn a bit about your local bop to help yourself be observant. i know percy are a bigger problem but every little helps. good luck great post just a quick question do they moult on the nest
Guest bluemorning Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 great post just a quick question do they moult on the nest yes mate not sure what month but it will be inline with abundance of food prob april onwards as blue tits etc are taken by the male up to small dove size is about his rage, but he pushing it to catch a fully fit racer its the bigger female that takes up to magpie size this gives all birds of prey a large range to feed from.touch wood not had a problem since early 2009 but theres plenty of spars around but no percy for me.had a guy who kept fantails near me left them out all day a guess what the female took 4 or 5 then he took my advice and kept them in but she was around for a week or so before it cooled down.eary bred youngsters out in march would be a tempting target but i dont breed that eary so shes on nest duty when mine are out.
just ask me Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Posted January 9, 2012 yes mate not sure what month but it will be inline with abundance of food prob april onwards as blue tits etc are taken by the male up to small dove size is about his rage, but he pushing it to catch a fully fit racer its the bigger female that takes up to magpie size this gives all birds of prey a large range to feed from.touch wood not had a problem since early 2009 but theres plenty of spars around but no percy for me.had a guy who kept fantails near me left them out all day a guess what the female took 4 or 5 then he took my advice and kept them in but she was around for a week or so before it cooled down.eary bred youngsters out in march would be a tempting target but i dont breed that eary so shes on nest duty when mine are out. i find the cock falcon becomes a real menace when the hen is sitting as he is feeding her and himself i was kinda sure that the hen molted on the nest this would mean that the cock would even have kill more
Guest Cawdy Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 both the percys and sparrs will go into a moult straight after breeding
Guest bluemorning Posted January 10, 2012 Report Posted January 10, 2012 i find the cock falcon becomes a real menace when the hen is sitting as he is feeding her and himself i was kinda sure that the hen molted on the nest this would mean that the cock would even have kill more yes mate i used to fly harris hawks and at end of season you fed as much as they can eat and the moult starts shortly.feel sorry for you with percy prob but percy nests have live web cams which you could use to see when birds have killed and feeding same when feeding chicks and try to find safe periods to have your birds out i know people are pushed for time but sharing this info on thie site you could help each other by a quick post all birds of prey gourge themselves at feeding wich removes the desire to hunt and percy when full will sit on a perch and not move for hours but when feeding young are more active but please dont try fastening whistles and all this other crap to your birds as all it will do is add weight and drag to your birds and the last thing a pigeon needs is somthing to slow it down.
just ask me Posted January 10, 2012 Author Report Posted January 10, 2012 yes mate i used to fly harris hawks and at end of season you fed as much as they can eat and the moult starts shortly.feel sorry for you with percy prob but percy nests have live web cams which you could use to see when birds have killed and feeding same when feeding chicks and try to find safe periods to have your birds out i know people are pushed for time but sharing this info on thie site you could help each other by a quick post all birds of prey gourge themselves at feeding wich removes the desire to hunt and percy when full will sit on a perch and not move for hours but when feeding young are more active but please dont try fastening whistles and all this other crap to your birds as all it will do is add weight and drag to your birds and the last thing a pigeon needs is somthing to slow it down. i wouldn't do that the one thing i noticed does a have a little effect on percy is a mirror and using the sun when its out lol to shine it directly at them
just ask me Posted January 10, 2012 Author Report Posted January 10, 2012 i did read a while back that pigeon fanciers in Australia are spending a lot of money into research into a deterrent that can be placed on birds the man or woman that comes up with it will be a very rich person indeed
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