rikki Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Peregrines are widespread in the UK through the western part of England, and in Wales, Scotland and Ireland. In southeast and east England they are found on a small number of isolated sites, though their range is slowly spreading. They reach their highest densities in upland areas of Wales, southern Scotland and northwest England. The UK population was estimated at 1,400 pairs in 2002. this was taken from rspb web site ,who wants to fly west route?
Guest Tooshy Boy Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 WE HAVE HEARD ALL THIS BEFORE.///
alex wight Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Rikki that was done by the liars and protectors of small bird murderers, 9/10 years ago. I,m pretty sure the east has caught up with the west by now. 1400 pairs equals another 2800(2003) the following year followed by 5600(2004), 11,200(2005), 22,400(2006), 44,800 (2007), 89,600 (2008), 179,200 (2009, 358,400 (2010) and 716,800 (2011). Now take away natural/deliberate death and bad hatches ect we would be left with about half a million breeding pairs. Spread that across territories and you have the whole of britain pretty much cover. And thats working on a figure given by the liars. regards alex.
rikki Posted December 31, 2011 Author Report Posted December 31, 2011 superb alex!!! that was put superbly ,pity tooshy boy! was not so factual!!
Guest Tooshy Boy Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 SPOT .ON ALEX.MATE . R.S.P.B. AWAYS TALK CRAP AND MAKE UP THERE OWN STORIES.///
Guest bigda Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 yes on every race the lanarkshire has, and i am only talking about the lanarkshire races, we suffer 500 strikes per race, that is based on the birds that come home from it, with a feather missing only. of the fatality's per race, it must be 200 missing in every race never to return. and ill challenge any fancier here on that, as being true figures.
Guest bigda Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Rikki that was done by the liars and protectors of small bird murderers, 9/10 years ago. I,m pretty sure the east has caught up with the west by now. 1400 pairs equals another 2800(2003) the following year followed by 5600(2004), 11,200(2005), 22,400(2006), 44,800 (2007), 89,600 (2008), 179,200 (2009, 358,400 (2010) and 716,800 (2011). Now take away natural/deliberate death and bad hatches ect we would be left with about half a million breeding pairs. Spread that across territories and you have the whole of britain pretty much cover. And thats working on a figure given by the liars. regards alex.you have made a brave attempt alex to count, but the bit you miss is they rear 4 in the nest and should one survive and the second year they then breed one who in turn quadruple in breeding makes it a even bigger amount you have only doubled the score when it should be 1/3 every year added every year since then you also have forgot to add the gosshawk, to the account.
Walter swanston Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 I don`t know about numbers but it has been widely acknowledged for years that Cumbria has more Peregrine Falcons than anywhere in Western Europe.
lanarkshire lad Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 I don`t know about numbers but it has been widely acknowledged for years that Cumbria has more Peregrine Falcons than anywhere in Western Europe.I read that that Cumbria has the Largest Peregrine population in the WORLD no just western Europe.
Guest Hey Presto Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 does not matter where we go hawks r everywhere even in our own back gardens
lanarkshire lad Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 does not matter where we go hawks r everywhere even in our own back gardens We know they are everywhere but not in the same numbers as in Cumbria thats a FACT.
stevie Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Do some thing about it then nogood talking about it
lanarkshire lad Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Do some thing about it then nogood talking about itI am trying and i hope you are also.
Walter swanston Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 I am trying and i hope you are also.
Dooheed 5 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 if there is suitable nesting places and there is an abundance of prey you have them in equel numbers where ever you go ! FACT !
alex wight Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 you have made a brave attempt alex to count, but the bit you miss is they rear 4 in the nest and should one survive and the second year they then breed one who in turn quadruple in breeding makes it a even bigger amount you have only doubled the score when it should be 1/3 every year added every year since then you also have forgot to add the gosshawk, to the account. a hear u danny, i was balancing it oot a bit, but yer right there are 4 per nest which would then double the numbers that i have stated. far too many but we hear it all the time, just got to deal with it me feels, which is ongoing all the time.
Walter swanston Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 if there is suitable nesting places and there is an abundance of prey you have them in equel numbers where ever you go ! FACT !
rikki Posted December 31, 2011 Author Report Posted December 31, 2011 just for any western route fanciers that do not have a clue that cumbria is on the west side of the country ,and after reading that it 1has been known by some time by keen twitchers and there like ,most heavely populated area for raptors quote.fact as the old song goes whos sorry now!
Walter swanston Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Any Scottish Federation including my own that makes a democratic decision to race up through Cumbria should be well aware of the potentially fatal risks to our birds,and I know that there are pergrine falcons everywhere but Cumbria is something else----------------we have all seen it down here
dal2 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 just for any western route fanciers that do not have a clue that cumbria is on the west side of the country ,and after reading that it 1has been known by some time by keen twitchers and there like ,most heavely populated area for raptors quote.fact as the old song goes whos sorry now! Sorry for what?Raced both sides recently nae diffo in returns or racin! Both pretty poor returns wise and with the occasional very dodgy race!
rikki Posted December 31, 2011 Author Report Posted December 31, 2011 most birds are lost not thru been eaten by bop but are sent unconditioned and unprepaired ,talk to any fancier at the top of there game and ask how there returns are, and you will soon relise that there husbandry with there teams seams to have the anwswer to returns ,the discussion was about avoiding populated areas and not a blaming a culture
jocky Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 I read that that Cumbria has the Largest Peregrine population in the WORLD no just western Europe.very funny why that is the case remembering that 90% of racing pigeons fly the east route.
blackdog Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 all returns are the same here in cumbria mate, everyones suffering
jocky Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 all returns are the same here in cumbria mate, everyones sufferingmy point exatly ther are every bloody where.
tyson Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 we midlothian fed raced youngbirds down west route this year and there was no where near the losses we were getting on the east side of the country
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