Droppings Test

[Guest geordiejen]

droppings test came back today

roundworms(negative

hairworms(negative)

cocidiosis(positive)

yeasts(positive)

caker(negative)

swab test said traces of bacteria

i give the birds brewers yeast on a sunday and monday every week.is this too much?will natural yogurt bring this down a bit?

cocidiosisi take it this is found in most pigeons and actually helps tyhe bird control it.

traces of bacteria i suppose nothing to worry about there.

any advice on this report?

 

cocci was low count and yeasts was a high count.

[OLDYELLOW]

ring tester back up and if they need any intervention they will say so

[lanarkshire lad]

droppings test came back today

roundworms(negative

hairworms(negative)

cocidiosis(positive)

yeasts(positive)

caker(negative)

swab test said traces of bacteria

i give the birds brewers yeast on a sunday and monday every week.is this too much?will natural yogurt bring this down a bit?

cocidiosisi take it this is found in most pigeons and actually helps tyhe bird control it.

traces of bacteria i suppose nothing to worry about there.

any advice on this report?

 

cocci was low count and yeasts was a high count.

Who done the tests for you?

[Guest geordiejen]

uk belgica ltd.£12.95 for test.

[Wiley]

When was the last time you treated before sending off the test?

[ovy1255]

start by treating with y40 for yeast-there are a lot of antibacterial products you can use but always treat with probiotics and multi vits after as the antibacterial will kill both good and bad bacteria,the coci will come down itself after that.

some guys on here might see it different.

try getting book fit to win .

[Guest IB]

droppings test came back today

roundworms(negative

hairworms(negative)

cocidiosis(positive)

yeasts(positive)

caker(negative)

swab test said traces of bacteria

i give the birds brewers yeast on a sunday and monday every week.is this too much?will natural yogurt bring this down a bit?

cocidiosisi take it this is found in most pigeons and actually helps tyhe bird control it.

traces of bacteria i suppose nothing to worry about there.

any advice on this report?

 

cocci was low count and yeasts was a high count.

 

My understanding is you don't feed brewers yeast when you have 'a yeast overgrowth' as it makes it worse. Also yeast overgrowth is usually caused by bacterial imbalance, and that usually follows antibiotic use. I'd stop the brewers yeast and give a probiotic instead.

[Guest geordiejen]

ive bought some natural yogurt and will give them some probiotic in the water.what can the consequences be if too much yeast in the system?

[Wiley]

ive bought some natural yogurt and will give them some probiotic in the water.what can the consequences be if too much yeast in the system?

 

Geordie when was the last time you treated before you sent of droppings?

[gladiator lofts]

Geordie when was the last time you treated before you sent of droppings?

Put some nystatin on corn for about week mix daily you will see difference wonderfull stuff ideal for most internal deseases

[Wiley]

Put some nystatin on corn for about week mix daily you will see difference wonderfull stuff ideal for most internal deseases

 

its very good advice dom, in my opinion it needs to be done after every antibiotic treatment, as after antibiotics yeast levels rise, hence my question to the chap on when was the last time he treated before he sent of the test.

[Guest geordiejen]

i havent wormed or coci them since january last year.usually treat them a few weks before the breeding season.i dont flock treat for canker.i vaccinate for paramyxo late july when all the brreding is over.

[Wiley]

i havent wormed or coci them since january last year.usually treat them a few weks before the breeding season.i dont flock treat for canker.i vaccinate for paramyxo late july when all the brreding is over.

 

Geordie I am asking when the last time you treated my friend, not your medication programme, when was the last time you treated?

[Guest geordiejen]

wiley i dont know what it is your asking me mate?

[andy Burgess]

wiley i dont know what it is your asking me mate?

i think its possibly "when did you last give them ,brewer,s yeast" , and if so "how long before they were tested" ie 2 weeks before or ... ??

[Wiley]

Neither , when was the last time you gave any medication prior to getting the droppings tested

[andy Burgess]

i havent wormed or coci them since january last year.usually treat them a few weks before the breeding season.i dont flock treat for canker.i vaccinate for paramyxo late july when all the brreding is over.

 

 

Neither , when was the last time you gave any medication prior to getting the droppings tested

?? is this it ??

[Wiley]

Depends when his breeding I suppose Andy only reason for asking as it would give the answer for the reason everything else was negative apart from a high yeast count

[andy Burgess]

Depends when his breeding I suppose Andy only reason for asking as it would give the answer for the reason everything else was negative apart from a high yeast count

right , so the feeding of ,or addition of "brewers yeast" is fine ,but problems arise if done close to when treated for anything like cocci/canker/worms ?? is that right ?

[Guest geordiejen]

hi wiley i havent gave them anything for worms or cocci since january.the odd youngster has had either treatment for ybs or some diluted baytril but only a few individuals.i do use garlic in the water a lot and probiotics once a fortnight.also i use orego stim daily and some pigeon tonic now and then.the odd time a bit of cider vinegar in the water too.im not a big fan of treating the flock for things but i do it only as a precaution just before the breeding season.

[Wiley]

right , so the feeding of ,or addition of "brewers yeast" is fine ,but problems arise if done close to when treated for anything like cocci/canker/worms ?? is that right ?

 

After any antibiotic Andy the levels of yeast rise, as a precaution you should always put nystatin on the grain for at least the next 3 feeds to eliminate any problems with candida(yeast). The reason why many people will use lemon juice on the grains or cider vinegar in the drinker is to acidity the crop and to brake down the sugar levels which candida feeds on, simple carbs like maize

 

In my opinion Brewers yeast would not cause a candida problem as it is inactive yeast, however if you have a candida or yeast problem brewers yeast will feed the candida, hence many people with Thrush are advised not to take Brewers yeast as a supplement until the patient is completely clear. But you must remember you need an equilibrium as an amount of yeast is need to create good intestinal gut flora

 

Geordie I think your mistaking what I am asking you mate, did you medicate any of your flock before you took the samples for analysis, as I am trying to hit the nail on the head on why your candida levels were high?

[andy Burgess]

thanks for the reply , now look forward to Geordiejen,s info too.

[Guest geordiejen]

no mate i havent given any anitibiotics at all.i do have baytril,fural,ornicure and metrinizadole which i use for canker.

[Guest geordiejen]

im not in favour of flock treating either.is their any other possible reasons why the yeast level is high?

[Wiley]

If you say you haven't treated at all at any time leading upto the dropping test It could be down to how the birds are fed or watered a high carb diet or use of vitamins that contain sugars which the yeast feed off. Remember there should be some yeast always present to create a good gut flora, it is only when the immune system is low that is when it can get out of hand, but from what your suggesting to me your birds should have a solid base. The vet who done the test what did they suggest fir you to treat with?