Guest bigda Posted November 27, 2011 Report Posted November 27, 2011 with the young birds heading for a race out of Stafford,i cant see this being well supported this year, and there couldbe a loss to the federation race accounts its not the distance that will be the problem i think it is the raptor problem that will, make it very hard for the young birds, and should it turn out to be a hard race the Lanarkshire and who ever goes with us might find out there candidates, for the young bird national could be over the top
Guest Tooshy Boy Posted November 27, 2011 Report Posted November 27, 2011 THATS WHAT THEY NEED./// IT DID NOT DOO THEM ANY HARM YEARS AGO WHAT YOU GOT BACK WERE WINNERS LETS GIVE IT A GO.///
Henrik Posted November 27, 2011 Report Posted November 27, 2011 with the young birds heading for a race out of Stafford,i cant see this being well supported this year, and there couldbe a loss to the federation race accounts its not the distance that will be the problem i think it is the raptor problem that will, make it very hard for the young birds, and should it turn out to be a hard race the Lanarkshire and who ever goes with us might find out there candidates, for the young bird national could be over the topMore doom n gloom fi Danny
novo10 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Posted November 27, 2011 with the young birds heading for a race out of Stafford,i cant see this being well supported this year, and there couldbe a loss to the federation race accounts its not the distance that will be the problem i think it is the raptor problem that will, make it very hard for the young birds, and should it turn out to be a hard race the Lanarkshire and who ever goes with us might find out there candidates, for the young bird national could be over the topdanny it wont matter 2 you you dont race further than glenmavis lol
andy Posted November 27, 2011 Report Posted November 27, 2011 danny it wont matter 2 you you dont race further than glenmavis lolDoes he race at all?
Guest bigda Posted November 27, 2011 Report Posted November 27, 2011 More doom n gloom fi Dannyits not doom and gloom, just the way it is nowdays, any one that say diferant dont know much about the raptor problem. and if they have forgot about the gold cup all ready, more fool them. if expericed doos that meet them cant come home then, dont come on here in the next year saying only 15 made it home, and the 98% must be sh**.
Guest bigda Posted November 27, 2011 Report Posted November 27, 2011 danny it wont matter 2 you you dont race further than glenmavis lol have tried members, doos out from here before, no names mentioned, but they couldn't home from the euro central. 1 mile out
Henrik Posted November 27, 2011 Report Posted November 27, 2011 Danny doesnt matter where you race from, the raptors are everywhere, I,ve got a peregrine patrolling the skies around here every day. I get people in my club saying that hawk attacked my birds today, well it dont attack mine in the winter cos it cant get in the dookit. You dont need to go anywhere to lose them to raptors, East or West its all the same.
Guest bigda Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 Danny doesnt matter where you race from, the raptors are everywhere, I,ve got a peregrine patrolling the skies around here every day. I get people in my club saying that hawk attacked my birds today, well it dont attack mine in the winter cos it cant get in the dookit. You dont need to go anywhere to lose them to raptors, East or West its all the same. will the doos ever evolve and get wise to the cs wish they would learn the sea route as it would only be the hen perigrine that could harm the doos out there the cock he cant carry them so he would be no use out there.
andy Burgess Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 Danny doesnt matter where you race from, the raptors are everywhere, I,ve got a peregrine patrolling the skies around here every day. I get people in my club saying that hawk attacked my birds today, well it dont attack mine in the winter cos it cant get in the dookit. You dont need to go anywhere to lose them to raptors, East or West its all the same.very , very true pal.
airdrie2 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 DRIVING DOWN A1 LAST WEEK ,29ML STREACH SAW 3 SPARROW HAWKS AND 2 PERCYS
Guest Cawdy Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 its not doom and gloom, just the way it is nowdays, any one that say diferant dont know much about the raptor problem. and if they have forgot about the gold cup all ready, more fool them. if expericed doos that meet them cant come home then, dont come on here in the next year saying only 15 made it home, and the 98% must be sh**. surely thats not the thought that all those birds that went missing in the gold cup were taken by raptors ????
lanarkshire lad Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 DRIVING DOWN A1 LAST WEEK ,29ML STREACH SAW 3 SPARROW HAWKS AND 2 PERCYSI am just back fae Dumfries and saw 35 Peregrines and 42 Sparrowhawks and about 1,000 buzzards.Wait a minute i am telling lies it was only 34 Peregrines sorry.
Guest bigda Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 surely thats not the thought that all those birds that went missing in the gold cup were taken by raptors ????well there is 3,000 pair 6,000 bop of one species then there is the yearlings they dont count for breedingthey all want a bird each so there is a big fed gone in one day tired Nat doos as even better 2,000 of them easy pickings trust me on a friday race when they fly alone happy days for the bopMY HONEST OPINION is i think most of the nat birds where shot in france.but i am not overlooking the bop problem to some they cant count with both hands, but thank god, there others that can uses there toes
novo10 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 I am just back fae Dumfries and saw 35 Peregrines and 42 Sparrowhawks and about 1,000 buzzards.Wait a minute i am telling lies it was only 34 Peregrines sorry.your talking crap jim well there is 3,000 pair 6,000 bop of one species then there is the yearlings they dont count for breedingthey all want a bird each so there is a big fed gone in one day tired Nat doos as even better 2,000 of them easy pickings trust me on a friday race when they fly alone happy days for the bopand your just nuggets
lanarkshire lad Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 your talking crap jim - Aye just like plenty others on here lol. Hey novo i think your about the only one thats had good returns fae the west route.??? and your just nuggets
Guest Cawdy Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 well there is 3,000 pair 6,000 bop of one species then there is the yearlings they dont count for breedingthey all want a bird each so there is a big fed gone in one day tired Nat doos as even better 2,000 of them easy pickings trust me on a friday race when they fly alone happy days for the bop ill agree that there are a hell of a lot of BOPS in the country and they do take a fair ammount of doos but if you are saying that all the gold cup birds or even a large majority of them that never returned were taken my bops then why arnt they taken every week? also i dont know where you got your figures but i dbout that any of the conservation bodies published figures like that as there little illusion that Percy's are rare would be fooked. lol
Guest bigda Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 ill agree that there are a hell of a lot of BOPS in the country and they do take a fair ammount of doos but if you are saying that all the gold cup birds or even a large majority of them that never returned were taken my bops then why arnt they taken every week? also i dont know where you got your figures but i dbout that any of the conservation bodies published figures like that as there little illusion that Percy's are rare would be fooked. lolSIMPLE maths, really if every fancier in the UK has 8 birds per year in there loft not counting the ones they no longer have or failed to home, but the birds with feathers missing will tell you there are 16,000 strikes a week minimum in the uk. and the average amount of birds going missing ever race day in the uk is at least 3,000 birds and rising every year.
Guest bigda Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 your talking crap jim and your just nuggetssorry your lift dont go all the way to the top novo, trying to educate a " eejit" is not my problem, there where those that where at school, and it looks like they failed in the communication side of there work maybe they wasted 12 years of there life's giving it a go, no me I tell you once, and once, only, THE SCORE
Guest bigda Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 here is the rspb own count now this was not yesterday this is in the 70s i believe and the rear 4 to a nest and get help every yearyou do the math novo ill await the answer may day will be long enough for you to get back with the answer Current statusPopulations of the Peregrine Falcon have bounced back in most parts of the world. In Britain, there has been a recovery of populations since the crash of the 1960s. This has been greatly assisted by conservation and protection work led by the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds. The RSPB has estimated that there are 1,402 breeding pairs in the UK.[76][77] Peregrines now breed in many mountainous and coastal areas, especially in the west and north, and nest in some urban areas, capitalising on the urban Feral Pigeon populations for food.[78] In many parts of the world Peregrine Falcons have adapted to urban habitats, nesting on cathedrals, skyscraper window ledges, tower blocks,[79] and the towers of suspension bridges. Many of these nesting birds are encouraged, sometimes gathering media attention and often monitored by cameras.[80][81]
Guest bigda Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 if only one survived from each nest every year how many are there extra since the 70s 41 years on, who is first to post the estimate i wonder
Guest Cawdy Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 well there is 3,000 pair 6,000 bop of one species then there is the yearlings they dont count for breedingthey all want a bird each so there is a big fed gone in one day tired Nat doos as even better 2,000 of them easy pickings trust me on a friday race when they fly alone happy days for the bopMY HONEST OPINION is i think most of the nat birds where shot in france.but i am not overlooking the bop problem to some they cant count with both hands, but thank god, there others that can uses there toes for a start nice to see you edited your post cause the bit about birds being shot was not there b4 SIMPLE maths, really if every fancier in the UK has 8 birds per year in there loft not counting the ones they no longer have or failed to home, but the birds with feathers missing will tell you there are 16,000 strikes a week minimum in the uk. and the average amount of birds going missing ever race day in the uk is at least 3,000 birds and rising every year. do you mean every fancier in the uk has 8 birds per year with visible sign of bop attack ? if we just take Scotland as I have no idea of figures of any where else then 8 birds per fancier per year multiplied by 2582 shu members comes to 1721 strikes a month and if you bring this down to a rough 4 weeks in a month comes to 430 a week but how we could equate this to birds lost on race days i cant understand as any birds we have had back that have feathers missing or injured (and there havent been many) generally look as if they have been attacked by a sparrow hawk and i would say that any birds taken on race days are in most cases taken by percys and for the 3000 birds going missing every race day i would like to know where you got the figures im not questioning them it is a genuine question if only one survived from each nest every year how many are there extra since the 70s 41 years on, who is first to post the estimate i wonder my maths isnt that great but id rekon counting in for natural wastage id say about 4000 pairs
Guest bigda Posted December 1, 2011 Report Posted December 1, 2011 for a start nice to see you edited your post cause the bit about birds being shot was not there b4 do you mean every fancier in the uk has 8 birds per year with visible sign of bop attack ? if we just take Scotland as I have no idea of figures of any where else then 8 birds per fancier per year multiplied by 2582 shu members comes to 1721 strikes a month and if you bring this down to a rough 4 weeks in a month comes to 430 a week but how we could equate this to birds lost on race days i cant understand as any birds we have had back that have feathers missing or injured (and there havent been many) generally look as if they have been attacked by a sparrow hawk and i would say that any birds taken on race days are in most cases taken by percys and for the 3000 birds going missing every race day i would like to know where you got the figures im not questioning them it is a genuine question i have already taking in natural wastage they breed 4- in a nest i sayed 1 survives each year, there are in the 70s 1,402 pair in 10 years only there are 1 million of ,that takes you up to 19 80, just now the perigrin is feeding on lots of starlings but we will soon be the next target, when they get thined out so add another 31 year of breeding on to that, and do the maths as we fly in the uk england that is where most of them are
Guest bigda Posted December 1, 2011 Report Posted December 1, 2011 for a start nice to see you edited your post cause the bit about birds being shot was not there b4 do you mean every fancier in the uk has 8 birds per year with visible sign of bop attack ? if we just take Scotland as I have no idea of figures of any where else then 8 birds per fancier per year multiplied by 2582 shu members comes to 1721 strikes a month and if you bring this down to a rough 4 weeks in a month comes to 430 a week but how we could equate this to birds lost on race days i cant understand as any birds we have had back that have feathers missing or injured (and there havent been many) generally look as if they have been attacked by a sparrow hawk and i would say that any birds taken on race days are in most cases taken by percys and for the 3000 birds going missing every race day i would like to know where you got the figures im not questioning them it is a genuine question my maths isnt that great but id rekon counting in for natural wastage id say about 4000 pairs8 birds multipyed by 2582 members comes to 20,656 divide that by 18 races a year gives you 1,147 strikes a race for the lucky ones the other 4-5 you loss ever week i aint counted as strikes
Guest Cawdy Posted December 1, 2011 Report Posted December 1, 2011 are these super percys i dont know about that live forever ? sureley they need tae die at eventually any way a gee up a canny even count how many spoons a coffe a need tae put in ma cup at this time anight never mind tryin tae work out how many rotin percys there are good night :wacko: cya in the mornin
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