Advice On Canker

[kraftykev]

Hi

 

just been down the loft and picked up a bird that was a bit ruffed up, slight noise when breathing and a white wax substance in his mouth. Do you think this is canker. I have been told that all birds carry canker but i have never had one like this before. I will have to nip down the pet shop tomorrow to see if they have anything. What do you give birds with canker and do i treat this bird or treat the whole loft.

 

 

thanks for taking the time to read this

 

all the best

 

kev

[sapper756]

Hi

 

just been down the loft and picked up a bird that was a bit ruffed up, slight noise when breathing and a white wax substance in his mouth. Do you think this is canker. I have been told that all birds carry canker but i have never had one like this before. I will have to nip down the pet shop tomorrow to see if they have anything. What do you give birds with canker and do i treat this bird or treat the whole loft.

 

 

thanks for taking the time to read this

 

all the best

 

kev

 

what ever you do, do not mix it in with other birds.

[Guest strapper]

Hi

just been down the loft and picked up a bird that was a bit ruffed up, slight noise when breathing and a white wax substance in his mouth. Do you think this is canker. I have been told that all birds carry canker but i have never had one like this before. I will have to nip down the pet shop tomorrow to see if they have anything. What do you give birds with canker and do i treat this bird or treat the whole loft.

thanks for taking the time to read this

all the best

kev

 

 

hi kev..if the bird is suffering from canker then i would advise you to treat all birds in that section , if its been drinking out of the same drinker then its most deffinately given other birds some form of canker.

treat all birds in that section and i would advise if using a canker treatment in the water then if you have any canker tablets at hand treat the bird you mention with a half/full tablet depending on strength of tablets.

seperating the bird will stress it and make matters worst in the case of canker,as its known that stress will make canker multiply much faster

ronidazol is my prefferred choice but any popular treatment will survice.

do not move bird leave and treat with others..moving the bird into a different section will only infect others.

 

in my haste to answer ,i forgot to mention...i would get the bird tested 1st , as this could be the start of a thrush infection.

[peter pandy]

So you think its canker do you !!. Well I have been in the game 55 years and thought I knew it all. I shall elaborate.

About 2 months ago I had young birds going down with canker and disposed of them immediately. I approached my local vet who I have had no previous dealings with and asked for 100 metroidazole "400" tablets for prevention of canker and he refused, he would only prescribe after examination of bird !. I told him I did not have any birds with canker and this was only a precautionary measure as I always dispose of any bird that has anything wrong with them but he insisted that he would not prescibe without consultation and a fee of £15 would be payable. You know where I told him to go !!!. Back home I went on the internet and placed an order for said tablets. These I quartered and popped down all the birds in the loft including young coming out of nests, Fine said I problem solved. 1 week later another went down with canker and after disposing thought to myself that I must have missed it when treating although I was positive I had not. Another week later and another went down so I had to queery the product I had obtained . I then tried to obtain B.S. from Deweerd Vetinary in Colchester and was delighted when they sent me B.S. and a Testing Kit within 24 Hrs of contacting them. I sent dropping samples and crop swab back for examination and lo and behold the resuls phoned to me the very next morning was as follows. No Canker, Small Cocci count, High Hair Worm count in droppings and high Bacteria count in the crop swab and forwarded treatment which I recieved the next morning and has cleared my problem up with no further fatalities for 4 weeks and birds looking and flying like demons.

In the past I have like most fanciers blind treated with anti this and that but no more. What I was 100% certain was canker most certainly was not and the moral of this is, their are avian experts out there who have the proper knowledge and expertise to solve our problems and you may find that in the long run their advice will work out cheaper than we who think we know it all. I certainly have learned my lesson...

[sammy]

So you think its canker do you !!. Well I have been in the game 55 years and thought I knew it all. I shall elaborate.

About 2 months ago I had young birds going down with canker and disposed of them immediately. I approached my local vet who I have had no previous dealings with and asked for 100 metroidazole "400" tablets for prevention of canker and he refused, he would only prescribe after examination of bird !. I told him I did not have any birds with canker and this was only a precautionary measure as I always dispose of any bird that has anything wrong with them but he insisted that he would not prescibe without consultation and a fee of £15 would be payable. You know where I told him to go !!!. Back home I went on the internet and placed an order for said tablets. These I quartered and popped down all the birds in the loft including young coming out of nests, Fine said I problem solved. 1 week later another went down with canker and after disposing thought to myself that I must have missed it when treating although I was positive I had not. Another week later and another went down so I had to queery the product I had obtained . I then tried to obtain B.S. from Deweerd Vetinary in Colchester and was delighted when they sent me B.S. and a Testing Kit within 24 Hrs of contacting them. I sent dropping samples and crop swab back for examination and lo and behold the resuls phoned to me the very next morning was as follows. No Canker, Small Cocci count, High Hair Worm count in droppings and high Bacteria count in the crop swab and forwarded treatment which I recieved the next morning and has cleared my problem up with no further fatalities for 4 weeks and birds looking and flying like demons.

In the past I have like most fanciers blind treated with anti this and that but no more. What I was 100% certain was canker most certainly was not and the moral of this is, their are avian experts out there who have the proper knowledge and expertise to solve our problems and you may find that in the long run their advice will work out cheaper than we who think we know it all. I certainly have learned my lesson...

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[Guest IB]

I've a booklet by the vet Frank Harper, pp29-30 he published 6 photos of throat lesions as a quiz asking which one, if any, was canker. Failed that one, the short answer was none.

[greenlands]

Some info on this site.

 

http://www.chevita.com/en/pigeons/symptoms/index.php

[maverick]

So you think its canker do you !!. Well I have been in the game 55 years and thought I knew it all. I shall elaborate.

About 2 months ago I had young birds going down with canker and disposed of them immediately. I approached my local vet who I have had no previous dealings with and asked for 100 metroidazole "400" tablets for prevention of canker and he refused, he would only prescribe after examination of bird !. I told him I did not have any birds with canker and this was only a precautionary measure as I always dispose of any bird that has anything wrong with them but he insisted that he would not prescibe without consultation and a fee of £15 would be payable. You know where I told him to go !!!. Back home I went on the internet and placed an order for said tablets. These I quartered and popped down all the birds in the loft including young coming out of nests, Fine said I problem solved. 1 week later another went down with canker and after disposing thought to myself that I must have missed it when treating although I was positive I had not. Another week later and another went down so I had to queery the product I had obtained . I then tried to obtain B.S. from Deweerd Vetinary in Colchester and was delighted when they sent me B.S. and a Testing Kit within 24 Hrs of contacting them. I sent dropping samples and crop swab back for examination and lo and behold the resuls phoned to me the very next morning was as follows. No Canker, Small Cocci count, High Hair Worm count in droppings and high Bacteria count in the crop swab and forwarded treatment which I recieved the next morning and has cleared my problem up with no further fatalities for 4 weeks and birds looking and flying like demons.

In the past I have like most fanciers blind treated with anti this and that but no more. What I was 100% certain was canker most certainly was not and the moral of this is, their are avian experts out there who have the proper knowledge and expertise to solve our problems and you may find that in the long run their advice will work out cheaper than we who think we know it all. I certainly have learned my lesson...

 

 

You would have been much cheaper paying the vet £15 AND 2 BIRDS BETTER OF

[peter pandy]

Sorry Maverick ! But please peruse my post again.

[Guest geordiejen]

canker can be very hard to treat if the birds are drinking from the same water container.trichinomads or whatever they are called live only a few mins outside the host.enough time to reinfect or pass onto other birds easily.ive never had any problems with canker until recently.their is over 20 strains of canker and for us to keep the birds we already have in good health from canker we should canker any new birds as well as keep them seperate from our stock for at least 2 weeks.its very easy to be caught out as this one came off this friend or that one came from a very good pigeon man but at the end of the day the owner of the birds dont know the actual levels of immunity to whatever and introducing new birds or birds coming back from a race are potential disease carriers.

[THE FIFER]