Sales

[REDROCKET]

been watching this myrtal loft sale what do you think about the way there doing this as in full sale on but the sale end date is stretched out ie 2 bird sold on first night 2 second night ect good or bad idea and who benifits from this.

[OLDYELLOW]

Well if stretched , more fanciers will talk about it word gets around then there's more bidders , then more chance of getting 2 or 3 fat wallets wanting same bird , only ones that benefit is the seller , My advice to everyone is stay away from Auctions and silly prices , yes by all means go to them get details of loft owner via pedigrees buy young birds at a set price direct , and if you can buy a bird you want at auction for a price your happy to pay then your a shrewd fancier , try not to get into a bidding war sometimes the other fancier will offer you young birds from the bird you wanted

[Guest Dorset-lad]

Myself personaly think its a good idea in what they are doing... if you are one of the lucky bidders and you want to bid for more than one bird and they ended at the same time you could quite easily end up losing out on one of them... if its say the pb sale and they end at say 7 you can not be bidding on more than one at the same time someone could sneak in and snap the other up just in time whilst your bidding on the other if you get what i mean .... so yes good idea jmo

 

Maybe PB sales could run on those sort of lines so many one night so many the next end time say 30 mins apart just a thought

[Ian McKay]

been watching this myrtal loft sale what do you think about the way there doing this as in full sale on but the sale end date is stretched out ie 2 bird sold on first night 2 second night ect good or bad idea and who benifits from this.

 

 

Just like me it got you thinking I have studied the complete sale and rules one thing for sure it is designed to get the Maximum for each bird

 

My thoughts are below in red

 

There is only one phone number and an e-mail buyers cannot post bids on the site

I get bids via the site and have to try and keep updating I take phone bids but it is hard to keep up with both, I am sure there is more than one person controlling their operation

 

You have to register your complete details

I work on your site name no proper Name, address or phone number

 

No visible complains procedure but they have final decision on any complaint

I get complaints on site and via pm all have to be looked into and a decision made fortunately our bids are timed which helps

 

In certain circumstances there are preferential bidders

I do not have this all bids on site

 

15min rule applies but with the prices they are receiving that will not run for too long and only 2 birds

15min rule on 15 / 20 birds can go on for a very long time(over 2hrs)

Whilst this is good for M&D as they are making money the people on our site are unpaid

 

There is a vast difference in the birds being sold with a minimum bid of £25 in some cases £100

A lot of sales on PB are for charity and everyone wants the bird as cheaply as possible only certain people can bid in the Myrtle lofts league

 

They are in control of payments and dispatch something I do not have control over, although it is posted on the final sale board, how many check this before dispatching the donation, bidders can send for the birds without paying for them some will not give there Name & Address but expect me to know who the seller is.

 

I think a lot of our bidders tend to wait till the last minute which causes more hiccups than anything very few bid on the high side and wait.

Last minute bidding can lead to the prospective buyers losing out

 

If you look back to H4H sale there were 120 donations and almost 500 bids

 

Any of the above is not criticism just trying to high-lite the difference in types of sales procedures

 

What shocks me is the people who donate then see their donation is not making enough money in there eyes then withdraw it or change the rules after it is sold, then I get them that bid then deny it or do not pay, I bet Myrtle don't get many of them

 

I would like to see some changes to our sales procedure which is being looked at as we speak

[geordie1234]

Maybe the way members have to become a gold member why dont you make it you have to register to be a buyer where you have to give all the details needed

[Ian McKay]

Maybe the way members have to become a gold member why dont you make it you have to register to be a buyer where you have to give all the details needed

 

 

Good idea will find out if possible :emoticon-0137-clapping:

[andy Burgess]

some very valid pionts raised Ian.

[Ian McKay]

Please remember we did raise £12,600 so it's not all doom and gloom :

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[Guest Dorset-lad]

Ian no one was having a go at the way things are run on here yourself and admin/mods do a grand job it shows in the amount of money you have raised.. yes at times i think we all forget the amount of effort that you all put in to the running of the site sales etc long may it continue regards Brian

[just ask me]

some good points there Ian :emoticon-0137-clapping:

 

have to say the way Ian runs his sales & charity sales etc is second to none seeing the amount of work that he puts in behind the scene before a sale hits the main board and then when the sale is running collecting the money sorting out the buyers with there birds etc and lots more it was a big job to take on but he has took it by the horns and made it another animal all together of course without the members putting up there birds and of course the buyers putting there hard earned cash in to buy the birds and donations the £12,600 would not be possible :emoticon-0137-clapping:

[Ian McKay]

Ian no one was having a go at the way things are run on here yourself and admin/mods do a grand job it shows in the amount of money you have raised.. yes at times i think we all forget the amount of effort that you all put in to the running of the site sales etc long may it continue regards Brian

 

 

Oh I must be stupid NEVER thought anyone was having a punt at me I was just answering some of the points I can see on Myrtle sale which do not apply to us but can see some GOOD points that I will put to Fifer to make it more interesting to all

 

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[sapper756]

some good points there Ian :emoticon-0137-clapping:

 

have to say the way Ian runs his sales & charity sales etc is second to none seeing the amount of work that he puts in behind the scene before a sale hits the main board and then when the sale is running collecting the money sorting out the buyers with there birds etc and lots more it was a big job to take on but he has took it by the horns and made it another animal all together of course without the members putting up there birds and of course the buyers putting there hard earned cash in to buy the birds and donations the £12,600 would not be possible :emoticon-0137-clapping:

 

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[Ian McKay]

some good points there Ian :emoticon-0137-clapping:

 

have to say the way Ian runs his sales & charity sales etc is second to none seeing the amount of work that he puts in behind the scene before a sale hits the main board and then when the sale is running collecting the money sorting out the buyers with there birds etc and lots more it was a big job to take on but he has took it by the horns and made it another animal all together of course without the members putting up there birds and of course the buyers putting there hard earned cash in to buy the birds and donations the £12,600 would not be possible :emoticon-0137-clapping:

 

 

This is so true without you it would not happen :emoticon-0137-clapping:

[victorious]

Well if stretched , more fanciers will talk about it word gets around then there's more bidders , then more chance of getting 2 or 3 fat wallets wanting same bird , only ones that benefit is the seller , My advice to everyone is stay away from Auctions and silly prices , yes by all means go to them get details of loft owner via pedigrees buy young birds at a set price direct , and if you can buy a bird you want at auction for a price your happy to pay then your a shrewd fancier , try not to get into a bidding war sometimes the other fancier will offer you young birds from the bird you wanted

[victorious]

excelant advice old yellow as i said before the country and here to is full of gangsters lookin to make a quick buck they have all jumped on the bandwagon louella are sellin birds 40 a pair i know a lot of people have bought them and ther fantastic ther well pleased with them all breeds surely something will come out of them so all yous so called get rich quick merchants stick your birds were the sun dont shine.