Young bird Sickness

[OLDYELLOW]

charcoal tablet them then leave for 2 hours then feed them durupative with a teaspoon of cinnamon and brewers yeast and garden lime and live natural yoghurt feed this for next 3 to 4 days then feed as normal

[victorious]

been told about this treatment for young bird sickness, and it is supposed to work....

 

The 3 steps will not stop young bird sickness coming into your loft, but it will 100% clear young bird sickness from your birds in under 30 HOURS.

 

First off how do our young birds catch the sickness, at one time you would catch young bird sickness when you mixed your birds with others when training, or the first or second race, they come back from the trainer or race and by Tuesday pm they are being sick, and it takes 2 or 3 weeks before they can be race again, now fanciers are catching sickness long before they are mixed with other birds I personally believe the sickness is air born and it can now spread just by your pigeons flying with other youngsters when you let them out. Yours come back from flying with 5 or 6 youngsters from another loft and land with yours, this could be another way,

ONE of the first signs is when they land after a fly you will see 1 or 2 pecking at the floor, picking up bits of wood or plastic or anything the birds can or pick up, the young birds seem not to know what to do with themselves, when you call them to come in the shed 1 or 2 just will not go in and you know they are hungry they seem to not know the way to go into the shed. And when they do go in they eat for England, it starts off with 1 or 2 and in the end you have up to 60% of the birds acting this way these are a couple of signs to look for.

 

Also when you let them out you open the doors or trap and they just look at you, they just don't want to fly, if you chase them out they fly for about 15 mins, also they tend to go off their food slightly, tend to take longer to clear their feed.

In the mornings handle 6 to 10 birds each day to find out if they have corn still left in crop this is the last sign before young birds sickness, so keep a close eye on them.

 

I will tell you now the 3 steps will only work if you have got young bird sickness, just because birds have corn in crop in the morning, this does not mean they have the sickness. If you have birds that are not digesting their corn at all, then you can use the 3 steps.

Lets say you feed your young birds Monday AM and by Tues AM, they still have corn in crop then yes use the 3 steps.

 

PRODUCTS YOU WILL NEED =

 

There are 2 products you need to purchase, 1 from the supermarket first is SODA CRYSTAL.

The second product from a chemist is MEDICINAL CHARCOAL TABLETS, which contains 100 tablets cut in half this will give you 200 doses, you give half per young bird (make sure you buy tablets not capsules they are more expensive) I buy mine from BOOTS £2.99 for 100 tablets. They work on old birds too, if they are having problems with vomiting.

 

RIGHT THIS IS WHAT YOU DO =

 

If the young birds retain the corn for more than 24 hours or being sick, the following will be sufficient to treat 20 birds so you will have to make up as required:

ADD 5 teaspoons of soda crystal and 100 mls of warm water and stir till dissolved, it doesn't matter if you put 10 teaspoons you can not overdose with the amount.

So do not worry it will not hurt them, you need a syringe to syringe 5 ml down each birds throat, this will make them vomit up all the corn in the crop.

Leave them for half hour, if they have not been sick syringe 5 ml more down each birds throat you must make them SICK, the soda will sterilize their crop.

When they are sick feel the crop you might have to syringe them 1 more time, you must make sure the crop is completely empty of all corn, once you make sure the crop is empty let them rest for half hour then give them half of charcoal pill each.

When you are making them sick place them in a pen with grids or upturn a crate so they can not pick up corn when they are sick, OR you will have to watch them.

REMEMBER this works in seconds as soon as you syringe the 5 mls down the throat they will vomit straight away.

 

The next part is the most important once you give half of charcoal pill you must not feed for 26 HOURS please do not feed THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT.

Now when you feed you must only give them DEPURITIVE or DIET and you only give each bird quarter ounce only NO more that day.

The reason for the half pill is it goes through them and cleans them through from crop to back end.

And you only give them a light feed to start with the next day to start the crop moving, give birds quarter ounce depuritive or diet mix late evening. On second day, half ounce depuritive. On third day 50% depuritive 50% corn, once AM and the same late PM.

Next day feed back to normal, young bird sickness gone, you must follow instruction VERY IMPORTANT.

 

SO THE 3 STEPS ARE =

1 - SYRINGE 5ML DOWN THROAT TILL SICK

2 - HALF CHARCOAL PILL FOR EACH BIRD

3 - DO NOT FEED FOR 26 HOURS

 

From now on you do not have to worry about young bird sickness you now have the tools to deal with it.

 

nonsense doesnt work baytril them 4-5 days guarenteed to work costs about 15 at any vet this is a wonder cure it wont even fret the flights and the will go on to win after this many top flyers dont want you to know this and it wont come back again

[OLDYELLOW]

nonsense doesnt work baytril them 4-5 days guarenteed to work costs about 15 at any vet this is a wonder cure it wont even fret the flights and the will go on to win after this many top flyers dont want you to know this and it wont come back again

 

 

 

look forward to infertile cocks using baytrill !!!! there's no need to give antibiotics to birds that have a digestive problem !!!

[victorious]

i can assure you i have no unfertile cocks in my loft i only keep 30 birds including y birds and they fly open hole and fly 500 mile every year so whoever told you that you get unfertile cocks is talkin nonsense p.s i only have two stock cocks and 3 hens all about 3....6 years old not one of my cocks or hens our unfertile i will stand by this statment and they all got baytril

[victorious]

think about it oldyellow people are given antibiotics sometimes even to save their lives with no side affects although i have only used them once in 30 years i only did cause i had to as mine only had ybs once 2 yrs ago some wer at deaths door but with baytril they pulled through but maybe using it to often or to strong might have side effects i dont know i know some good racers even use it as a preventitive although i woulnt go that far iam only reccomending it as a cure for yb sickness it worked for me allmost overnight it would b interesting to here other fanciers views who have used it on this if i can help someone i will.

[OLDYELLOW]

yes antibiotics were given out willy nilly to every cough sneeze and sore throat by doctors at one time , then they started to limit there use to extremely bad cases or immune suppressed individuals , that's all well and good but at what cost long term ??? the long term effectiveness of antibiotics is limited and over use prevents the body building up a stronger immune defence against such illnesses , there's a lot of information about baytrill on the internet and it does cause short term fertility for up to 6 days in cocks and hens eggs should be discarded , so if that strong short term then it's my belief that baytrill should be the very last option for a pigeon and only can be prescribed by a vet . My method for ybs does work 100% without the need for antibiotics . To me giving baytrill to cure ybs is like taking a weeks course of antibiotics when a antacid tablet would do . I don't doubt the effectiveness of baytrill but as said it's the last resort , i feel that if the young birds can't fight or overcome with my method then they are week and i'd rather remove them as they will only be the gateway to more problems in future generations.

[THE FIFER]

[andy Burgess]

just spent nearly 30 minutes reading through this

[dal2]

just spent nearly 30 minutes reading through this

Any wiser???????????

[andy Burgess]

Any wiser???????????

me wise ?? theres a few "cures" in there that could be usefull, i know of some-one who has found a cure one year ..... only to find it didnt work the following year ??

[Diamond dave]

I have read with great interest the sticky on YBS and also this current thread. Lots of great comments, advice and debate mostly regarding the treatment.

However, I have an observation that is more appropriate to prevention rather than cure.

To start with, I must should say that I aspire to the illness being caused through stress. Everything I look at or read regarding pigeon racing refers to routine routine and routine. Feed at the same minute of every day etc. etc. Well I have to question such advice because in my opinion when it comes to the first race the birds are completely thrown by everything that is happening to them and are totally stressed by the experience.

I am not an ace flyer or make any claims to being an authority on the matter but my work does not allow me to give my birds any regular routine (maybe why I am not an ace) but I can admit to never having had YBS. - Perhaps I am just lucky but I actually think that it could be that my birds go to the first race being quite used to the disruption.

- Food for thought, if nothing else.........

 

D.D.