sapper756 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 Khan seeks appreciation World champion looking to win over British fans http://img.skysports.com/11/07/660x350/Amir-Khan-Zab-Judah_2625014.jpgAmir Khan feels more appreciated in the US but says he is determined to win the hearts and minds of the British public. Khan faces Zab Judah in a light-welterweight world title unification fight in Las Vegas on Saturday night. Despite his achievements in the ring, Khan has struggled to be universally accepted in his homeland but that has not been a problem in the US where he has spent much of his time in recent years, training at Freddie Roach's renowned Wildcard gym. "There are still sceptics around at home but I always say that I'm the best, most exciting fighter Britain has had for a long, long time," he said. "You can put any name against me, but I know I'm the most exciting. "A lot of people don't give me the credit I deserve but I fight because I love the sport and want to put on good shows. "When I retire, the people who didn't think I was that good will think 'hang on, Amir was good after all'. "I definitely feel more appreciated here than in the UK. At this moment in time, I'm getting more love in America from boxing fans." WHO WILL WIN THIS FIGHT?
just ask me Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 judah about 6 years past his best if the fight was 5 or 6 years back id say 100% judah for me kahn is still picking his fights there bigger tougher fights out there than judah be a must watch as judah id a conterverial character from throwing low blows with matweather when mayweather took him apart caused a ring brawl to throwing stools in the ring when been beaten again think it was clotty that time im undecided tbh have not seen judah in a few years if he has some of his old skills still he may have enough which would be a pr disaster for kahn in the states as judah not that highly rated in states anymore tight judah win for me
DAVIDL Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 sorry to say khan will win this fight, as already said, khan and his management are still picking the oponents for him so as judah is way past his best this is why they have chosen him............and also as judah has still got a good name, it will enhance kahns reputation. they did the same thing when they fought a way past his best barrarera (?), kahn has been wrapped in cotton wool and had the very best training possible, this is why the british fight fans dont care much for him, plus he`s an arrogant big head who lets not forget got knocked out inside one round by an unknown fighter called presscot or something like that......
just ask me Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 sorry to say khan will win this fight, as already said, khan and his management are still picking the oponents for him so as judah is way past his best this is why they have chosen him............and also as judah has still got a good name, it will enhance kahns reputation. they did the same thing when they fought a way past his best barrarera (?), kahn has been wrapped in cotton wool and had the very best training possible, this is why the british fight fans dont care much for him, plus he`s an arrogant big head who lets not forget got knocked out inside one round by an unknown fighter called presscot or something like that...... have not seen judah fight in god only knows how long but im sure you are correct that he is way past his best i just think if there anything of old there at all it should be enough also bang on about Barrera kahn would not last with 3 rounds with Barrera in his hay day them fights with moreals were something else
sapper756 Posted July 24, 2011 Author Report Posted July 24, 2011 Khan stops Judah in fifth Briton prevails in unification showdown http://img.skysports.com/11/07/660x350/119686246_2625954.jpgAmir Khan became unified world light-welterweight champion after seizing Zab Judah's IBF title with a fifth-round stoppage at Mandalay Bay Events Centre
Guest homestead Posted July 24, 2011 Report Posted July 24, 2011 wether you like him or not its a world title that comes back to Britain
just ask me Posted July 24, 2011 Report Posted July 24, 2011 wether you like him or not its a world title that comes back to Britain true but look back though his record apart from barrera and judah way past there best who has he fought look at judah record has been in there with them can retire in the morning saying he was in the ring with the best kahn still has not stepped in the ring with one world class boxer at the top of his game he came in bang on 140lb for the fight and looks like he could move up a weight now there some class boys above him
DAVIDL Posted July 24, 2011 Report Posted July 24, 2011 true but look back though his record apart from barrera and judah way past there best who has he fought look at judah record has been in there with them can retire in the morning saying he was in the ring with the best kahn still has not stepped in the ring with one world class boxer at the top of his game he came in bang on 140lb for the fight and looks like he could move up a weight now there some class boys above him totally agree J.A.M. all he has fought is the good reputation of these over the hill fighters, i read theres talk of him fighting mayweather but IF this happens it will be because his management believe he too is past his best hoping to build his reputation even more.........i remember kevin mitchel and the other fighter he is about to fight (cant remember his name off hand), they both offered to fight kahn for nothing 2 years ago but his management never accepted it, he`ll go out like the other so called great (lol) nasheem ahmed who the first time he got beat couldnt hack it, so all that trash talk of winning titles at 3 or 4 different weights was exposed for what it was bulls**t
Roland Posted July 26, 2011 Report Posted July 26, 2011 Well J.A.M. I admire Khans' boxing ability... but he will always have a glass chin. There are countless of such in past as history confirms. You can't strengthen a chin... so yes he will always have to have 'Picked /Chosen opponents. Like many other deserving cases of course, for various reason. Hatton and Calzghe not least on the list. Such boxers as Dia Dower and many more lost a fortune via over stepping their' mark. Where today 'Good Managements' would prevail. - Yes agreed it goes without saying many lost out through management and 'Boxes chasing the 'Big Pay Day. Joe Erskine should have stay a light heavy for instance and 100's more spring to mind. Yet Floyd Patterson went against the good advice and ego / pride made Listen a world champ - which of course he deserved to be.... But, like many more, he certainly wouldn't have been if 'Good Managements' abounded. Nasseem went against 'Good Managements' in Barrera's case. - I actually met him on the plane and said to him that he would beat himself. A good big en will always beat a good little one. - Manny etc. today day are a different ball game. So good luck we say in the money stakes eh! But I always have a sadness in my heart for those, so many, deserving their' chance, but are simply too good for their Own good. Right from the 50's - when 'Percy 'Kid' Lewis' was frozen out - and of course since reading etc. I feel strongly for those deserving, but shunned! So bully for him, and tough on other eh! We hear cry! The problem is further escalated because the 'Management' can earn just as much for themselves and the boxer in doing so... so sad that I fear. Media can build up - knock down or freeze out just whom and what they choose eh!So yes he will always duck and dive and earn money. What their legacy is, well that will be up to the media... But I'd bet that they will often wake in mornings up and think 'What if ...' in regards whom they've ducked, avoided, and more so from the innate and senile, senless excuses some have used. Jack Dempsey must be top of the list in that regards I guess. Like in stating 'Yes! But Junior Witter was so boring...' Not that it would have cost Hatton £30.000,000! Like I say, the flimsy excuses are took up and used by those wishing and supporting ... Buit not realistically thought of in the reality.
just ask me Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 roland i think hatton deserves some credit after he let his management team go he started to get the big fights in fairness to hatton he gave mayweather, tszyu and Pacquiao a go among a few other decent boys a fight Calzghe waited till anyone that was decent to get a pension to fight also with jones i dont think you can go up and down the weights like he tried it have to take something out of you and i think the fight with Calzghe proved that and other fights popping up and down though the weights cant be good for the body
Roland Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 Hatton deserve credit no two ways about that! For guts and wearing his heart on his sleeve. A warrior, and you got what you wanted, a determine and brave fighter giving his all and taking some too A CROWD pleaser to boot. So yes he earnt his money - if it can be said they are worth themoney. Also I am not peeved at his earning or hios management either because they done their job. But to bad mouth and belittle fighters he wouldn't - or more likely his managerment wouldn't allow - get into the ring with is deploreable. At his 'moots' the first thing his says, and stipulates is he won't answer any question regards Witter! Obviouysly with out the media appleasing comments that they won't and can't substatiates, he can't. If Witter had beaten him, as most know he would have, then he would have kissed a few £million good by. Good management, so sad for Witter, who's only fault was he was boring, and spoke truth, which obviously didn't suit. Was a time when the 'Champ' was only too pleased to put things straight. I bet Hatton regrets every morning that he didn't fight witter, and a few others... but snorts some and puts it out of mind for a while.
Roland Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 Same with Calzage, Good management. In America they called him the 'Nearly Man', nearly fought a great in their prime... and there were 6 - 7 at least he avoided. Good luck to him... But to come out and bad mouth Frogh after he'd retired rather than fight him !!!!! Well that is disgusting! Frogh a man that sat by idling his time and waiting and NEVER bad mouthing him, but say when he want to get it on he will... and KNEW he was the better man... to decry and spout one must only assume that it was a guilty conscious! Both Hatton and Calzaghe refused a winner take all, and Witter even saying he'd donate it all to charity! Remember Witter WON the British, commonwealth, European titles, besides the World titles... and ducked no one.
just ask me Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 true roland nice too see someone else sees though all the hype :emoticon-0137-clapping: hey watch out for this boy Yuriorkis Gamboa i think he has it all could have a better defense ok but hes exciting powerful and skillful i know these youtube highlights can make anyone look good but i think hes well worth a watch
Fair Play Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 Mayweather next! In boxing terms another "Old Man" Fr*nk Wa**en must be making a fortune by protecting his interest
Guest norfolk.al Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 WAIT TILL HE MEETS UP WITH DANNY GARCIA,THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK
Roland Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 Was a British heavy wieght that was absolurely brilliant. Indeed awesome. Yes a cocky git with a wicked unthinking mouth. H
Roland Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 He spouted out of turn and upset the powers to be... Long story short they said 'We don't need you, we can make money out of that '**** ***** ... you won't every box!! This fellow showed the heavy weight up so very easily when being used as a sparring partner'! Full stop. Yes he never moved but ate crow piew and made a half decent livin ... whereas he could have been a great champion, and possibly would have been the World Champ' in stead! Now let's take the Witters and Froghs etc. out of the equation... they would have done the same and been just as successful and heralded even more so, and quite rightly so.... But one must feel for them surely. I see Mayweather is fighting again, but avoiding Manny! He is a great! No two ways about that, but is earning millions by not chancing a meeting with Manny ... like he did with Witter.But is he damaging the sport? Apparently no!. Good management? ... Yes because the punters and the sport accepts and moves on.... Every so often they talk of 'Uniting' but is only paper talk because the proof is they'd rather create another 'Title' for a world title than win one held by someone too good for them.
just ask me Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 i dont think Floyd is avoiding manny i think its just creating suspense through out the paying public which is good management too
Roland Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 May well be right J.A.M.I favour Floyd to win when it seemed to be getting it on.Still do... but am worried that A. Mayweather wants to take no chances losing his unbeaten tag ... and protecting his drawing power to choose his opponents.
just ask me Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 May well be right J.A.M.I favour Floyd to win when it seemed to be getting it on.Still do... but am worried that A. Mayweather wants to take no chances losing his unbeaten tag ... and protecting his drawing power to choose his opponents. its his last big payday he loves the limelight he will fight ok
Roland Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 Oh yeah, I agree entirely there JAM, but was referring to whom, and when he'll fight. Certainly loves the money and prestige. Think the thought of losing is a bigger burden after every fight, and hence will pick and choose his fodder .. but can get suprised and caught just the same, but will reduce the chances galore when feasible. Moans about Manny not taking a Drug test, though there has never been any reason to suspect, indeed has past them... THEN fights Mosely who has failed tests twice...
just ask me Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 Oh yeah, I agree entirely there JAM, but was referring to whom, and when he'll fight. Certainly loves the money and prestige. Think the thought of losing is a bigger burden after every fight, and hence will pick and choose his fodder .. but can get suprised and caught just the same, but will reduce the chances galore when feasible. Moans about Manny not taking a Drug test, though there has never been any reason to suspect, indeed has past them... THEN fights Mosely who has failed tests twice... surely there should be a drug test a few hrs before and after every fight anyway only one way to stop cheats and that not to give them any room to move i was surprised to hear that this is not the norm
Roland Posted July 28, 2011 Report Posted July 28, 2011 Have random tests, and Manny has always passed them, others haven't. Like the wieght being done the day before... they put on pounds by the time of the fight, 8 - 9 average, but of course depends on the size. I , personally, think that the old way of wieghing in the noon / morning of the fight better and more fair, but it's be passed and done for a few years now. Yes every one should be tested prior regardless. Remember well the time Ben Johnson was disqualieied in the olympics... Carl Lewis and Linford also failed theirs, but were promoted???? Carl Lewis FAILED on at least three occasions but was never disquailified or censored etc. like a few more Interesting if one googles it.
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