Pigeon Pedigree Sheets?

[Pigeonmumbler]

I was just thinking & maybe want to ask a few Questions!

Who Actually validates all these so called Pigeon Pedigree Sheets??? What Organization, Auction House, Clubs and or who holds the Records & Issues, Titles, Stamps, Signatures’& who Authenticates Original Sales receipts of the Family Lineage, do they have to be Registered And who & what set of procedures & rules have to be followed, and who mandates Such!!! ETC, When these Pedigree Sheets are Printed out... Because almost all of the ones I have seen both Past & Present just merely seem to be a Personal Computer generated Pedigree Sheets and anyone with or without a simple software program can Print it out… How is it Done???

 

Is it just a free for all & Said Pedigree Sheets’ really don’t hold any real or actual set of standards by any Organization, Auction House, Clubs or Associations that actually Validates Such! And really any person(s) buying a Bird from any such Vendor boasting or including a Pedigree Sheet in a sale is merely or really just hopes that the buyer just takes a leap of faith, that this So called “Pedigree Sheet†is accepted as a mere Honorable Good Record Keeping of said Vendor selling the bird??? SO am I wrong in assuming that any & all, So called “Pedigree Sheets†is merely just Trusting said Vendors word & reputation that the Family Lineage blood line described in the Pedigree Sheet holds any real or actual Blood line trace (Strains) that can be actually proven, Because how can they actually do it? By showing another “Pedigree Sheet†Again, that he himself made!!! About the Only thing I can see that maybe Accepted or worth anything on a Pedigree Sheet is “Accepted Race Records Times†which can be traced to Clubs records which is a form of official record!!! And then again the buyer is just simply taking a leap of faith by trusting the vendor or seller of such bird for sell, that its Blood line or Strain is actually derived from such or bred “Family Lineage†as is described in a mere Pedigree Sheet…!…Because when a breeder breeds two birds together to then add that Family Lineage or bloodline to the Pedigree Sheet when the offspring or YB’s are ready for sell, because there really isn’t anyone Person(s) that knowingly can prove such consummation took place between both Birds that reared the Squab,,, unlike valuable Race Horses or Dog breeders ETC that my want proof by a certified (Third Party) Association or Organization representatives certifying & documenting or seen that such consummation between both Parents actually took place… So I guess it all boils down too “Trust†on behalf of the Buyer if or whether he want to or believes’ in such a simple paper as a “Pedigree Sheet†record from the Seller, Breeder or Vendor!!! Or am I wrong…???

 

Louie

 

[billt]

Yes, you are right in your assumption,it is all down to trust

[greenlands]

Everything's trust with peds.,unless you start getting into DNA.

[just ask me]

Everything's trust with peds.,unless you start getting into DNA.

 

 

that being done a bit already only on the high end stuff ok but will be the way of the future along with artificial insemination which will become common as muck

[blaz]

a pedigree is only as good as the person that wrights it.jo bloggs that is only out to make money from fanciers will soon be caught out. example well bred yb for sale pure bussharte bred from winners right through pedigree . sire abc 99 12345 bb cock 1st club 1st fed midlothian race back sands 2001 distance 300 mile.now hear is one bird on pedigree .you look at it and think is this right or not.you the find out the midlothian fed sec phone number and phone.then ask very nicely .hello my name is mick i am thinking about buying a yb from mr jo bloggs

he says on ped his bird was 1st club 1st fed from your race from back sand in 2001 could you please tell me if this it true .i would add if it was my fed you phone to add i know you work very hard and DON,T GET THE CREDIT YOU SHOULD.BUT IT WOULD BE A GRATE HELP IF YOU COULD PLEASE HELP ME ON THIS. KNOWING OR SEC Rhona see would proberly say( fffukkk of not to do wi me

) NO SHE WOULD NOT Rhone would say i am BUSY just now as she does a lot of work for our fed but give me a phone number and i will get back to you. if it was true she would phone and tell you.if it was untrue she would phone and tell you the let a good few members in our fed know that he is selling birds and putting lies on pedigrees.not sure on this he might even be in trouble for bring his fed in to disripute also his club.

 

i sometimes sell birds and hear is the 3 pedigrees that cover all mine

any of the members that have got birds from me gifts or bought will voch for mine