selling birds on this site

[DOVEScot]

 

Duncan what goes around comes around mate. Rise above it, onwards and upwards. I am a great believer in the old saying ' if you can't do someone a good turn don't do them a bad one...... but they only ever take the pi*s once'

Regards,

Paul.

 

I have learned a lot form ma big pal Coxy and thankfully so has a lot of others on this site and other sites as well, also so has his local police, he is a prolific conman but not the brightest button on the jacket :-/

The good thing is he is just very minute part of life, like a boil on your butt, very sore at the time and something you have to squeeze all the poison out of if you can reach it   ;)

[Blue Chequer Pied]

 

I have learned a lot form ma big pal Coxy and thankfully so has a lot of others on this site and other sites as well, also so has his local police, he is a prolific conman but not the brightest button on the jacket :-/

The good thing is he is just very minute part of life, like a boil on your butt, very sore at the time and something you have to squeeze all the poison out of if you can reach it   ;)

 

LOL  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[tskyes]

UNTIL THERE IS A FEE THAT HAS TO BE PAYED FOR SELLING BIRDS WOT IS THE PROBLEM ? SOME OF YOU WOULD FALL OUT WITH YOUR OWN SHADOWS.

[Blue Chequer Pied]

UNTIL THERE IS A FEE THAT HAS TO BE PAYED FOR SELLING BIRDS WOT IS THE PROBLEM ? SOME OF YOU WOULD FALL OUT WITH YOUR OWN SHADOWS.

 

I dont really think anyone is falling out here they are just expressing their opinions. I personally think it is a great opportunity for people to buy birds and in particular newstarters. The idea of fees I think should only apply to the more commercially minded sellers but from what I can see ( during my short time on here ) they seem to be getting run out of town so to speak. There will always be a market for pigeons and this forum benefits sellers and buyers. Maybe if sellers want to sell for the coming year they should donate to the auction. The buyers could then give some feedback on the auction birds and it could be used as a point of reference for any future buyers particularly new starts.

Just my thoughts on the matter.

 

Paul.

[DOVEScot]

Just an opinion :-/

Any member that sells of THEIR excess stock cheap to members should not pay a fee, any member that sells of OTHERS excess stock for as much as they can should pay a fee, any member that just uses the site for this purpose should pay a higher fee :-/

[Roland]

 

Duncan what goes around comes around mate. Rise above it, onwards and upwards. I am a great believer in the old saying ' if you can't do someone a good turn don't do them a bad one...... but they only ever take the pi*s once'

Regards,

Paul.

But Duncan's a Scot... and they are still singing about Edwards Army 800 years ago... to the Welsh / Irish and French even at Rugby games ... Oh Bonny Scotland when we will see the likes again...  Glad no Scot is after me lol they certainly have long memories and never forget lol ;D ;D Unless of course as many suggest, they haven't nowt to sing about since lol.    Duncan I've just moved to Moroco... via Turkey... cold turkey lol :-/ :-/

 

 

[Blue Chequer Pied]

 

Duncan what goes around comes around mate. Rise above it, onwards and upwards. I am a great believer in the old saying ' if you can't do someone a good turn don't do them a bad one...... but they only ever take the pi*s once'

Regards,

Paul.

But Duncan's a Scot... and they are still singing about Edwards Army 800 years ago... to the Welsh / Irish and French even at Rugby games ... Oh Bonny Scotland when we will see the likes again...  Glad no Scot is after me lol they certainly have long memories and never forget lol ;D ;D Unless of course as many suggest, they haven't nowt to sing about since lol.    Duncan I've just moved to Moroco... via Turkey... cold turkey lol :-/ :-/

 

 

Aye Laddie but I'm a Scot as well.......LOL :P :P ;D ;D ;D

 

 

[DOVEScot]

 

Duncan what goes around comes around mate. Rise above it, onwards and upwards. I am a great believer in the old saying ' if you can't do someone a good turn don't do them a bad one...... but they only ever take the pi*s once'

Regards,

Paul.

But Duncan's a Scot... and they are still singing about Edwards Army 800 years ago... to the Welsh / Irish and French even at Rugby games ... Oh Bonny Scotland when we will see the likes again...  Glad no Scot is after me lol they certainly have long memories and never forget lol ;D ;D Unless of course as many suggest, they haven't nowt to sing about since lol.    Duncan I've just moved to Moroco... via Turkey... cold turkey lol :-/ :-/

 

 

Aye, yous can only mind back as far as 1966 ;D ;D ;D

[Adam Gray]

 

It is quite disturbing reading when people start ganging up on people selling birds, I have noticed it more with the fancy/flying breeds than those people selling so called racing pigeons. You get dealers in everything has anyone brought a car from a car dealer?

 

As I mentioned before buying any animals it is a case of `buyer beware'. Unfortunately there are unscrupulous people selling things in all walks of life. Prospective purchasers clue your self up and ask the right questions - do your best to view/handle before you buy or take someone experienced with you if you are a beginner. Do not just amtrak on someones word !!

 

What I would look for :-

 

Nice perky disposition.

No lumps or bumps

No discharge from the eyes or nostrils.

Have a look down its throat, nice and pink? no mucas or inflammations.

A sheen on the feathers (wear a dark top and and hold the bird against it, you should have a white dust (bloom) which settles on the fabric.

Open the wings and let them snap shut, feeling for tightness in the elbow joint.

If it is a flying/performing breed see it fly/perform.

Look at the conditions in which it is kept.

 

With the fancy show breeds no-one is going to sell you their best !! try and get some relatives of the finest birds and then work at it ! Rome was not built in a day.

 

 

[joe61]

mr gray you talk 100% sense so you wont last long on here because most on here aint got any they will come on here and pull you to bits because they know better  

 

oh happy days

[retired]

mr gray you talk 100% sense so you wont last long on here because most on here aint got any they will come on here and pull you to bits because they know better  

 

oh happy days

 

Correction - You get pulled to bits becuase every post is basically a load of <<rubbish>>

 

[Leroy]

Adam I agree mate, it is always a case of buyer beware. I became involved in one of the earlier threads because I saw the same person advertising the same birds on two different websites, with two different stories as to why they were selling. Alarm bells immediately rang, and as someone who was deceived when buying birds as a novice, I wouldnt want the same to happen to someone else.

 

Unsurprisingly, as soon as I had posted on here about the birds, the advert on the other website mysteriously disappeared, perhaps confirming my suspicions???

 

Lee

[joe61]

my post to the DEALER just went walkabout still never mind

 

ps no swearing dealer

 

oh happy days

[ionela]

It is quite disturbing reading when people start ganging up on people selling birds, I have noticed it more with the fancy/flying breeds than those people selling so called racing pigeons. You get dealers in everything has anyone brought a car from a car dealer?

 

As I mentioned before buying any animals it is a case of `buyer beware'. Unfortunately there are unscrupulous people selling things in all walks of life. Prospective purchasers clue your self up and ask the right questions - do your best to view/handle before you buy or take someone experienced with you if you are a beginner. Do not just amtrak on someones word !!

 

What I would look for :-

 

Nice perky disposition.

No lumps or bumps

No discharge from the eyes or nostrils.

Have a look down its throat, nice and pink? no mucas or inflammations.

A sheen on the feathers (wear a dark top and and hold the bird against it, you should have a white dust (bloom) which settles on the fabric.

Open the wings and let them snap shut, feeling for tightness in the elbow joint.

If it is a flying/performing breed see it fly/perform.

Look at the conditions in which it is kept.

 

With the fancy show breeds no-one is going to sell you their best !! try and get some relatives of the finest birds and then work at it ! Rome was not built in a day.

 

 

Adam i'am novice and when i buy a bird first a read about breeders and his results and then i go with someone with experience to take it.If i read on Net about fanciers and birds ist not necesary to buy.Now ist a world at PC and Internet.

[retired]

my post to the DEALER just went walkabout still never mind

 

ps no swearing dealer

 

oh happy days

 

Maybe the mod will be kind enough to place the post back on as you keep me humoured whilst i am bored

 

Oh happy days

 

 

[just ask me]

i dont mind anyone selling pigeons here but what gets me is pll that come on here and contribe noting to the site they seem to think its there own personal advertising agengy where they can post for free u look back through there posts any every second post is either a bird being sold or what pll have won with there birds just this site is brilliant for information and when a youngster starts into the sport the first place they go too is the internet i understand that it up too the buyer if he wants to buy or not but should this site be used for pll advertiseing there birds in which one or two here are like studs not that i have a problem with studs or them being here but i think this place is like community where we help each other a little

[ionela]

i dont mind anyone selling pigeons here but what gets me is pll that come on here and contribe noting to the site they seem to think its there own personal advertising agengy where they can post for free u look back through there posts any every second post is either a bird being sold or what pll have won with there birds just this site is brilliant for information and when a youngster starts into the sport the first place they go too is the internet i understand that it up too the buyer if he wants to buy or not but should this site be used for pll advertiseing there birds in which one or two here are like studs not that i have a problem with studs or them being here but i think this place is like community where we help each other a little

 

you have right but tell me if exist someone who deliveries to East Europa.

[pjc]

Adam, you are correct in what you say but there are many people on here and other forums who are not in a position to travel and handle the birds for themselves.

When dealers or missleading adverts are placed there is nothing wrong with other members warning prospective purchasers of any facts they may have regarding the advert.

It is then down to any purchasers to make up there own mind as to wether they part with there money or not.

 

Phil

[Tony C]

 

I would like to hear opinions on the method of regulating sellers, and collection of donations.

 

Perhaps a maximum asking price of £25 a pigeon, should keep most of the sharks away.

 

[mark]

 

Correction - You get pulled to bits becuase every post is basically a load of <<rubbish>>

 

and you talk total rubbish.

[nagid]

Why all the birds for sale anyway.its hard enough to get decent birds but these peaple have got that many there selling them week in week out >

[nagid]

why is it the pigeon game is plagued with conmen and not just on here.this year i bought birds from a dutch stud they said ringcards and pedigrees would be posted to me.ive since phoned about 20 times with no reply.the 3 birds in question i cant race or show.why should they get away with these things.i must have gave away 30 young birds this year and never took one penny. as you can imagine im raging

[Guest chrisss]

Adam, you are correct in what you say but there are many people on here and other forums who are not in a position to travel and handle the birds for themselves.

When dealers or missleading adverts are placed there is nothing wrong with other members warning prospective purchasers of any facts they may have regarding the advert.

It is then down to any purchasers to make up there own mind as to wether they part with there money or not.

 

Phil

 

yep its all about trust, there are guys on this site that i have brought birds off again and again icluding the "dealer" [reading that joe 90/61/4.5]but there are guys on this site who i would never buy from judging by their posts [or family members]

[joe61]

hi chrisss well the dealer is giving birds away onpigeon sales so get over there quick mate they are free mate because he cant sell them some dealer he is if you got these you might not be a novice mutch longer

 

oh happy days

[Guest chrisss]

hi chrisss well the dealer is giving birds away onpigeon sales so get over there quick mate they are free mate because he cant sell them some dealer he is if you got these you might not be a novice mutch longer

 

oh happy days

 

why don't you wait for the "dealer" to come back on site and ask about them yourself you brave littleman