S.N.F.C

[walterbmasson]

ITHINK ALL MEMBERS HAVE SEEN THE CONVOYERS REPORT FOR OVER SEAS RACES FROM 2010 ::::: START OFF WITH REIMS GOLD CUP RACE due to extreme heat birds watered every hr till darkness ( RACE CONTROLLER ) phoned to say the prospects for a early lib was EXCELLENT and he would phone at 5-15 am wheres the national flag of scotland no all for one here where is RULE 23 AT MISSING right enough phoned at 5-15am AND REPORTED EXCELLENT CONDITIONS LIGHT NORTH WEST WIND ------- YES NW -WIND AND TOLD TO LIBERATE AT 6--15 THIS IS AFTER BEING TOLD THE NIGHT BEFORETHAT CONDITIONS WERE PERFECT FOR EARLY LIBERATION i dont think they know that some birds have to fly 650 miles ( AFTER THIS REPORTS FOR CLERMONT AND REIMS THERE MUST BE A MID DAY LIBERATION FOR RACES OVER 600+MILES MUST BE MID DAY LIBS as this is scandelous as this RULE IS A JOKE 4-30 am to 11pm ( w hich has never been aderhed to since pigeon racing began ) AT LEAST WITH MID DAY LIBS THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HRS OF DARKNESS AND ALL BIRDS HAVE TO START RACE 2ND DAY AS PER THIS GREAT RULE 23 WHICH MUST OF BEEN MADE FOR A MID DAY LIB ------------ ( BY THE WAY ALL OVERSEAS RACES HAD THE SAME OUT COME EXCELLENT CONOITIONS FOR EARLY LIBS BUT THE OTHER TOO WAS LIBED AT 6-30AM this is blatently catering for 480 to 500 milers and ignoring the task of the poor 600+milers or no chancers the way its being handled just read the report its set oot and this is the trend at every long distance event in the SNFC

[frank-123]

ITHINK ALL MEMBERS HAVE SEEN THE CONVOYERS REPORT FOR OVER SEAS RACES FROM 2010 ::::: START OFF WITH REIMS GOLD CUP RACE due to extreme heat birds watered every hr till darkness ( RACE CONTROLLER ) phoned to say the prospects for a early lib was EXCELLENT and he would phone at 5-15 am wheres the national flag of scotland no all for one here where is RULE 23 AT MISSING right enough phoned at 5-15am AND REPORTED EXCELLENT CONDITIONS LIGHT NORTH WEST WIND ------- YES NW -WIND AND TOLD TO LIBERATE AT 6--15 THIS IS AFTER BEING TOLD THE NIGHT BEFORETHAT CONDITIONS WERE PERFECT FOR EARLY LIBERATION i dont think they know that some birds have to fly 650 miles ( AFTER THIS REPORTS FOR CLERMONT AND REIMS THERE MUST BE A MID DAY LIBERATION FOR RACES OVER 600+MILES MUST BE MID DAY LIBS as this is scandelous as this RULE IS A JOKE 4-30 am to 11pm ( w hich has never been aderhed to since pigeon racing began ) AT LEAST WITH MID DAY LIBS THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HRS OF DARKNESS AND ALL BIRDS HAVE TO START RACE 2ND DAY AS PER THIS GREAT RULE 23 WHICH MUST OF BEEN MADE FOR A MID DAY LIB ------------ ( BY THE WAY ALL OVERSEAS RACES HAD THE SAME OUT COME EXCELLENT CONOITIONS FOR EARLY LIBS BUT THE OTHER TOO WAS LIBED AT 6-30AM this is blatently catering for 480 to 500 milers and ignoring the task of the poor 600+milers or no chancers the way its being handled just read the report its set oot and this is the trend at every long distance event in the SNFC

 

would be wary of the early morning mist in the channel might be ok at the liberation site but sometimes needs a few degree's to burn the mist away over the sea

mind that was the convoyers report

[Guest homestead]

ITHINK ALL MEMBERS HAVE SEEN THE CONVOYERS REPORT FOR OVER SEAS RACES FROM 2010 ::::: START OFF WITH REIMS GOLD CUP RACE due to extreme heat birds watered every hr till darkness ( RACE CONTROLLER ) phoned to say the prospects for a early lib was EXCELLENT and he would phone at 5-15 am wheres the national flag of scotland no all for one here where is RULE 23 AT MISSING right enough phoned at 5-15am AND REPORTED EXCELLENT CONDITIONS LIGHT NORTH WEST WIND ------- YES NW -WIND AND TOLD TO LIBERATE AT 6--15 THIS IS AFTER BEING TOLD THE NIGHT BEFORETHAT CONDITIONS WERE PERFECT FOR EARLY LIBERATION i dont think they know that some birds have to fly 650 miles ( AFTER THIS REPORTS FOR CLERMONT AND REIMS THERE MUST BE A MID DAY LIBERATION FOR RACES OVER 600+MILES MUST BE MID DAY LIBS as this is scandelous as this RULE IS A JOKE 4-30 am to 11pm ( w hich has never been aderhed to since pigeon racing began ) AT LEAST WITH MID DAY LIBS THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HRS OF DARKNESS AND ALL BIRDS HAVE TO START RACE 2ND DAY AS PER THIS GREAT RULE 23 WHICH MUST OF BEEN MADE FOR A MID DAY LIB ------------ ( BY THE WAY ALL OVERSEAS RACES HAD THE SAME OUT COME EXCELLENT CONOITIONS FOR EARLY LIBS BUT THE OTHER TOO WAS LIBED AT 6-30AM this is blatently catering for 480 to 500 milers and ignoring the task of the poor 600+milers or no chancers the way its being handled just read the report its set oot and this is the trend at every long distance event in the SNFC

I dont race anywhere near that distance but it does make sence the later Lib for the 500 mile plus

[andy]

I dont race anywhere near that distance but it does make sence the later Lib for the 500 mile plus

Absolute crap, The Gold Cup 550 miles is all abt timing on the day. There's a longer race for the 2 dayers.

[yeboah]

Absolute crap, The Gold Cup 550 miles is all abt timing on the day. There's a longer race for the 2 dayers.

Got my vote on that yin andy

[andy]

Got my vote on that yin andy

I always knew you were a sensible chap Michael. :lol:

[walterbmasson]

Absolute crap, The Gold Cup 550 miles is all abt timing on the day. There's a longer race for the 2 dayers.

dina ba s stupid fa are you 550 fa reims ony y the rules are being broken every year and you must be a real crank if you cant see that do what the post says read the report they nhave no intention in letting the doos up as rule 23 so scrap it and make it so it suits every fanciers not just you lot south o the forth

[Guest IB]

dina ba s stupid fa are you 550 fa reims ony y the rules are being broken every year and you must be a real crank if you cant see that do what the post says read the report they nhave no intention in letting the doos up as rule 23 so scrap it and make it so it suits every fanciers not just you lot south o the forth

 

I'm puzzled how you can say Rule 23 (Hours of Darkness in Scotland) governs the time of liberation in France? Surely its weather conditions at or near race point that governs that? I also agree that what everyone is trying to achieve is a bird on the day from these races.

[JohnJ]

I'm puzzled how you can say Rule 23 (Hours of Darkness in Scotland) governs the time of liberation in France? Surely its weather conditions at or near race point that governs that? I also agree that what everyone is trying to achieve is a bird on the day from these races.

i agree

[Guest IB]

Hate to raise this (maybe after horse has bolted?) when the Convoyer says the birds were liberated at 06:15 at Reims, what time were they using, BST (Daylight Saving Time) = GMT +1, or Central European Summer Time = GMT +2?

[Chris Little]

Absolute crap, The Gold Cup 550 miles is all abt timing on the day. There's a longer race for the 2 dayers.

 

 

You got my vote too Andy

[walterbmasson]

I'm puzzled how you can say Rule 23 (Hours of Darkness in Scotland) governs the time of liberation in France? Surely its weather conditions at or near race point that governs that? I also agree that what everyone is trying to achieve is a bird on the day from these races.

well ian if you cant see that this rule is in there to destroy the long longest flying birds your not interested in them the rule says 4-30 to 11pm now we dont expect birds to be libed at 4-30 but there expected to fly till 11pm on night then rise at 4-30 in the morning now ian if your not following me yet the longer the birds are let up in the morning its impossible to get home and if you think there are any birds flying at 10 to 11pm at night i would get a check of the brain box so the birds are being forced to give up at least 1 hr to

1/2 hrs take that off vel where does the bird land up in the result sheet well ian am i coming close yet now the sad thing is the birds flying 180miles to get home shorter birds say 10 miles the bird would be up and away but not if they had say180 miles they take longer to get up try and reverse our positions my bird is in the clock and your bird is locked oot 150miles from home but if the longest flying bird was up earlier in morning would have a better chance in getting well up the road and if wind conditions were right even timing on but this is definately nnot going to happen as you can see so why not have nmid day libs for the longest overseas races not taking in ypres as that is a day race

[novo10]

well ian if you cant see that this rule is in there to destroy the long longest flying birds your not interested in them the rule says 4-30 to 11pm now we dont expect birds to be libed at 4-30 but there expected to fly till 11pm on night then rise at 4-30 in the morning now ian if your not following me yet the longer the birds are let up in the morning its impossible to get home and if you think there are any birds flying at 10 to 11pm at night i would get a check of the brain box so the birds are being forced to give up at least 1 hr to

1/2 hrs take that off vel where does the bird land up in the result sheet well ian am i coming close yet now the sad thing is the birds flying 180miles to get home shorter birds say 10 miles the bird would be up and away but not if they had say180 miles they take longer to get up try and reverse our positions my bird is in the clock and your bird is locked oot 150miles from home but if the longest flying bird was up earlier in morning would have a better chance in getting well up the road and if wind conditions were right even timing on but this is definately nnot going to happen as you can see so why not have nmid day libs for the longest overseas races not taking in ypres as that is a day race

walter ur obviously of ur trolley m8

[yeboah]

walter ur obviously of ur trolley m8

No his trolley his boat ,thats what i have been doing last few days walter relining hold of trawler take ma hat of to you guys working on it when moored enough for me

[walterbmasson]

i agree

that is how much of a sport you are agreeing to locking the longest flying birds oot so you can time a 500mile doo na na mid day libs aboady pays there fees and all taking part has got to get treated the same but there is i some think they are better than a boady else and that is fact just look at some of this crap posts about the best positions too win wind direction a for a bunch a powder puffs some speak about the longest race gods sake ye canna send 300 doos to the race why but you will do your damdest to shut doos oot by shortining the time a bird can fly

[yeboah]

Walter simple answer for those of us who would like a six am liberation so be it ,

For those who wish to be liberated at high noon just have them be race marked in specially marked baskets and have there wish and then no one could complain ,would be no problems velocity worked from lib time to clock in time UNC been doing it inland for Y E A R S

[budgie]

Absolute crap, The Gold Cup 550 miles is all abt timing on the day. There's a longer race for the 2 dayers.

Its the greatest feeling in the World and nothing comes close tae it.

[walterbmasson]

novo i dina ken you but i would say your brain is blank as you dina ken much about doos a good bit o nothingless up top bit its the SNFC THAT MADE THE REPORT OOT WE THE PERFECT CONDITIONS THE NIGHT BEFORE A RACE AND EARLY MORNING BUT STILL HELD THEM INTO THE HEAT OF YHE DAY AND ALSO WAS SAID THEY WATERED THE DOOS EVERY HOUR TILL DARK IF LIBERATED EARLIER WOULD HAVE BEEN AT CHANNEL A LOT EARLIER BEFORE IT GOT TOO HOT I THINK ITS TIME THEY PUT NYOU INTA THE TROLLEY AND TOOK YOU OOT O SIGHT AS YER MAKING A ASS O YOUR SELL

[Guest bigda]

yes Walter you are perfectly correct, these so called sportmen think the channel is there Saviour, the daftys in charge are making decision's about the channel at 6.30 am even although the birds are 3 hours from reaching it. and where every other Nat and fed are gone knowing by the time they arrive at the channel it will be clear, yes and the 4-30 am rule would test all the shortest fliers out i would say one out all out, if not then, make it a 4-30 am lib if they expect the birds to race home the next day from it, why not then race at 4-30 am on race days

[novo10]

have a look at national results and youll see our results 4 last 4 years and read report its about timing on night of liberation from gold cup or any 500 mile race jmo not timed myself on shift but working on it scored in every inland race and by the way timed out bourges this year and won section d averages not bad for somebody who doesnt know anything about doos

[budgie]

have a look at national results and youll see our results 4 last 4 years and read report its about timing on night of liberation from gold cup or any 500 mile race jmo not timed myself on shift but working on it scored in every inland race and by the way timed out bourges this year and won section d averages not bad for somebody who doesnt know anything about doos

 

It will come your on the right track and good luck.

[walterbmasson]

Walter simple answer for those of us who would like a six am liberation so be it ,

For those who wish to be liberated at high noon just have them be race marked in specially marked baskets and have there wish and then no one could complain ,would be no problems velocity worked from lib time to clock in time UNC been doing it inland for Y E A R S

NABOADY TALKING ABOUT INLAND RACES i pay my fees ta SNFC FOR THE LAST 42 YEARS but have always catered for one half o the country but the re report at overseas races this year with perfect forcasts and hokding the birds till 6-15 am and 6-30 am in stiffling heat doesent look very good if your birds got to fly 650miles you south boys are getting santa clause a year roon bit yer great sports fer yersels

 

 

It will come your on the right track and good luck.

[Guest bigda]

NABOADY TALKING ABOUT INLAND RACES i pay my fees ta SNFC FOR THE LAST 42 YEARS but have always catered for one half o the country but the re report at overseas races this year with perfect forcasts and hokding the birds till 6-15 am and 6-30 am in stiffling heat doesent look very good if your birds got to fly 650miles you south boys are getting santa clause a year roon bit yer great sports fer yersels

 

 

here here Walter you have described them to a "T"

[novo10]

cheer andy trying harder every year putting plenty effort in so heers hoping

[walterbmasson]

novo never blaw yerain trumpet ive won every secyion in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