Snfc Proposed Race Points.

[walterbmasson]

well said

 

 

should of been done a long time ago .

this was a annual vote for fanciers to put an x on gold cup race sheet for what race point they prefered but most fanciers prefered not to vote and was stopped

[bullcock]

The further east , the fairer it is for all. IMO, we should be flying out of Denmark, pity about the amount of water ( and you know its true )

Im with you on this one Delboy

[frank-123]

why can they just not settle on race points and stick with them

no matter where it is hopefully i will be sending

[Guest stb-]

Have any of you who are Complaining about Liege had a look at the result from the last time we raced from there????????? I doubt it very much with what i have read on this thread.

 

Do yourselves a favour and look at it, then post the positions of the top 10 and the section they flew from.

I canny print what i really want to say to you's on this subject. SELFISHNESS and IGNORANCE would figure high up on my remarks though!!!!!!!

yip one of the most fairest races ever John birds from all sections in top 10

[lanarkshire lad]

yip one of the most fairest races ever John birds from all sections in top 10

To make these claims based on a one off race is ridiculous.This leige race came about due to restrictions of pigeons getting into france.If anybody thinks that it will be the same each year, well i think they want there heed looked .Conditions on the day of the race play the biggest part to what kind of race you get to make these claims about THE FAIREST RACE IN A LONG TIME BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION IS NONSENSE.Take reims for example last year the snrpc got a bad race from reims but the very next week the snfc had a GREAT RACE.I think the big problem with the pigeon game is the fanciers dont know where the doos are going the doos themselfs dont know where there going for *expletive removed* sake whats going to be gained from going to Leige??a fair race ?? DONT THINK SO.

[clockman]

What was wrong with Alencon won in Fife,Dumfries,Eyemouth,Peterhead and Annan

[Delboy]

To make these claims based on a one off race is ridiculous.This leige race came about due to restrictions of pigeons getting into france.If anybody thinks that it will be the same each year, well i think they want there heed looked .Conditions on the day of the race play the biggest part to what kind of race you get to make these claims about THE FAIREST RACE IN A LONG TIME BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION IS NONSENSE.

 

 

I disagree with you Jim,the Liege race had westerly winds all the way up the country, so thats not helping the men in the west.There were two pigeons from the west in the top 7 Open . The race was won in Arbroath, 2nd was in Annan and the spread was very good. We know that we arent going to get the same race every time but we have only had one race from there and its been the best, as far as fairness is concerned.You go the traditional route and you are getting a boot in the baws and asked to run 100 yards, from the east and south fanciers.

[lanarkshire lad]

I disagree with you Jim,the Liege race had westerly winds all the way up the country, so thats not helping the men in the west.There were two pigeons from the west in the top 7 Open . The race was won in Arbroath, 2nd was in Annan and the spread was very good. We know that we arent going to get the same race every time but we have only had one race from there and its been the best, as far as fairness is concerned.You go the traditional route and you are getting a boot in the baws and asked to run 100 yards, from the east and south fanciers.

Derek i will say it again no two pigeon races are the same and for me this leige race will sooner or later be a disaster. JMO

[Guest IB]

I don't have a problem with any race programme, but I do think it serves no purpose to change it every year. For a start it prevents forming long term partnerships with other organisations for joint convoying, and for me that must be a future priority, the [color-red]red [/color] race balances in the annual accounts once again proves the folly of trying to go it alone on what now appears to be some folks whims.

[Guest stb-]

Derek i will say it again no two pigeon races are the same and for me this leige race will sooner or later be a disaster. JMO

Do we not get a bit off a disaster out off most places anyway at somepoint nowadays

 

anyway what is the problem with reims ??

[lanarkshire lad]

Do we not get a bit off a disaster out off most places anyway at somepoint nowadays

 

anyway what is the problem with reims ??

Dont see any problem with Reims there was a good spread of pigeons all over the country last year.I know that we in the west get a raw deal due to terrain wind etc but i think you either except it or chuck it as i dont think continualy changing race points is the answer.

[Delboy]

Dont see any problem with Reims there was a good spread of pigeons all over the country last year.I know that we in the west get a raw deal due to terrain wind etc but i think you either except it or chuck it as i dont think continualy changing race points is the answer.

 

I know what yer saying Jim but you have just said we get a raw deal then why not try and even the playing field a wee bit.It wont make much difference to the domination from the south and east BUT it can change the result a wee bit

[Delboy]

Derek i will say it again no two pigeon races are the same and for me this leige race will sooner or later be a disaster. JMO

 

 

The worst disaster in the Gold Cups history.( 21 BIRDS IN RACE TIME )1997 from RENNES. I know all this chopping and changing is no use but the fact of the matter is, we should never have changed from Liege after having such a good race from it. The selfish changed it

[frank-123]

could say the same about ypres being out so far east seems quite a good race line to me although i never timed from it last year but in general it is a good racepoint

liege is not that far east from ypres maybe 20 miles but a good bit further

anyway i don't care where we race from i would leave it up to the management committee to put the racepoints in place

rather than talk about racepoint's maybe talk about why so many races its madness

[Delboy]

Lets get to the AGM and talk, its cheap on here

[lanarkshire lad]

could say the same about ypres being out so far east seems quite a good race line to me although i never timed from it last year but in general it is a good racepoint

liege is not that far east from ypres maybe 20 miles but a good bit further

anyway i don't care where we race from i would leave it up to the management committee to put the racepoints in place

rather than talk about racepoint's maybe talk about why so many races its madness

Frank is leige no about 100mile further than that ypres nonsense.

[Guest bigda]

yip one of the most fairest races ever John birds from all sections in top 10

 

 

to add to that, most of the east coasters never sent to the race

[lanarkshire lad]

to add to that, most of the east coasters never sent to the race

Bigda i think you should stick to otterburn.

[Guest bigda]

Bigda i think you should stick to otterburn.

 

 

you know, i am only here to tell the truth to the Pilgrims that get told nothing, as i say the race was not supported by the blokes in the east as they refused to send, as they did not fancy a west wind on the beak bigda as is, chief scout for the under dog, on fairness east is east the further the better for all as going west it has ran out to country for the desired distance and to add never hear the Irish lads complain about a west wind so

remember there are other people in the national

and you must address that, if its a west wind it is for all, years ago the issue was what at the time was easiest to get to but that dose not stand up to in this day and age of transport

[Guest stb-]

Bigda i think you should stick to otterburn.

nope he dont go past EUROCENTRAL without a noose bleed

[Guest bigda]

nope he dont go past EUROCENTRAL without a noose bleed

have you done yer christmas challenge as yet

[Guest stb-]

have you done yer christmas challenge as yet

nope didnt make a challenge just stated my opinion

[lanarkshire lad]

you know, i am only here to tell the truth to the Pilgrims that get told nothing, as i say the race was not supported by the blokes in the east as they refused to send, as they did not fancy a west wind on the beak bigda as is, chief scout for the under dog, on fairness east is east the further the better for all as going west it has ran out to country for the desired distance and to add never hear the Irish lads complain about a west wind so

remember there are other people in the national

and you must address that, if its a west wind it is for all, years ago the issue was what at the time was easiest to get to but that dose not stand up to in this day and age of transport

This must be a scottish thing always looking for to change there national racepoints.Take a look at the big international races in europe Barcelona for a start its been the big race in Europe for donkeys years with about six or seven COUNTRYS taking part and yet you dont see them changing there race points Perpignan Narbonne Marseille pau ETC .One things for sure they dont keep changing and it doesnae suit every country its kept the same over 25,000 at Barcelona this year even guys fro poland having a go at it you dont hear of them trying to change it.

[frank-123]

Frank is leige no about 100mile further than that ypres nonsense.

 

Hi JIm

 

did say it was further

just it lies more easterly just looking on the map it looks about 20 mile further east

 

sorry just measured it by google earth looks more like 60 mile east

[lanarkshire lad]

If you want a more level playing field in the gold cup race.Then Bourges is the Answer its been proven time and time again that from these Longer Race points the west section acheive there best open positions.So go for Bourges and stick to it.