National Winner

[sapper756]

Here is an easy to answer question.

 

If you had the money and the opportunity to go to a fancier who had won a National, and also bred the National winner.

 

Which would you prefer;

 

a direct youngster out of the National winner.

 

or, a youngster out of the pair that bred to National winner?http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

 

and, can you explain your preference

 

 

Thank You

[sapper756]

Here is an easy to answer question.

 

If you had the money and the opportunity to go to a fancier who had won a National, and also bred the National winner.

 

Which would you prefer;

 

a direct youngster out of the National winner.

 

or, a youngster out of the pair that bred to National winner?http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

 

and, can you explain your preference

 

 

Thank You

 

 

personally I would pick one of the parents, as they have proved they breed the goods, and just because a bird wins a National, does not necessarily mean they will breed winners. JMOhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

[billt]

personally I would pick one of the parents, as they have proved they breed the goods, and just because a bird wins a National, does not necessarily mean they will breed winners. JMO

Yes I agree, I would like a good look at the pedigree to confirm the lines were producing consistent winners

[OLDYELLOW]

i buy both then pair them up uncles to neices aunts to nephews

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

I agree with both of you may be a racer but not a breeder!

[JohnQuinn]

I would take the racer's young bird before the parents, i figure the chances of getting a dud out the stock doos is higher than that of the racer. I am taking this at face value and there is no mention of them having bred any other winners, however the winner has all the winning genes of the parents and is more likely to pass the winning genes on, he/she is now "the tree" and i like my apples close to the tree

[fletch]

young bird of the parents every time we know they can breed them but we all had good pigeons that didnt produce anything but all had breeders tht keep breeding

[Guest IB]

I'd prefer one from the parents. They are the complete gene pool and there might be further national winners in it. The national winner is only half of that pool.

[VMS]

Would prefer 1 off the national winner,if the winner was a cock would like a hen off it and vice versa.

[demolition man]

Would prefer 1 off the national winner,if the winner was a cock would like a hen off it and vice versa.

 

 

I'm with you on this one i quite like grand children from them aswell

[JohnJ]

Would prefer 1 off the national winner,if the winner was a cock would like a hen off it and vice versa.

yes thats the i would go 2

[Guest LBuddle]

Direct off the National winner. Its a nice feeling to have children off of National winners.

[eastcoaster]

going on the theory of 1/20 are any good i would have to take one off the nat winner , i am lucky enough to have 4 bred from nat winners in my stock loft but the off spring are still to be tested as they are all long distance birds. but how many parents breed 2 nat winners !!!

[Guest stb-]

Here is an easy to answer question.

 

If you had the money and the opportunity to go to a fancier who had won a National, and also bred the National winner.

 

Which would you prefer;

 

a direct youngster out of the National winner.

 

or, a youngster out of the pair that bred to National winner?

 

and, can you explain your preference

 

 

Thank You

for a start it would depend where the national winner was geographically in the first place because a lot o them would not suit some areas

[JohnQuinn]

for a start it would depend where the national winner was geographically in the first place because a lot o them would not suit some areas

 

OK, Glesgy then, spit it out what would you take?

[THE FIFER]

a youngster out of the pair that bred to National winner? as they have bred a winner,

[Guest stb-]

OK, Glesgy then, spit it out what would you take?

if it were a cock then a young hen and still the hen if the winner was a hen work that oot auld yin

[billt]

going on the theory of 1/20 are any good i would have to take one off the nat winner , i am lucky enough to have 4 bred from nat winners in my stock loft but the off spring are still to be tested as they are all long distance birds. but how many parents breed 2 nat winners !!!

Not too many that I know of but Haydns Superman, Busschaert, sired Adam and Eve Starbright, both National winners, Adam won 2 Nationals

[JohnQuinn]

if it were a cock then a young hen and still the hen if the winner was a hen work that oot auld yin

 

Just means you've got the ideal Ck to go with it the hen out the nest.

[Guest stb-]

Just means you've got the ideal Ck to go with it the hen out the nest.

[THE FIFER]

bump

[john@formula 1 lofts]

If i had the money i would buy the national winner and his parents LOL

 

Tough call just to buy 1 or the other so i would buy 1 from each

[boxer]

we bought children off national winners this year cant wait to try them out and the bonus was they was not expensive

[budgie]

We have purchased many but it appears to be the 2nd Generation that come up Trumphs.