Training Do You Go Line Of Flight Or Not

[Guest bakes]

do you train on line off flight or train were ever you going i train line of flight wonce my birds have been rangeing for a week i take them down to corley 10 miles they have 10 from there until beating mate back then off to warwick 20 miles have 10 from there until beating mate back then off to stratford around 25 miles a few there and by that time my mate that takes my birds single them up in 1 minute inteviles so they got to come on there tod and when arriving back at loft they come one at a time a few minutes between each other then wonce there done that for 10 times i put on transporter training and they go evasham 30 miles as much as i can get the birds on there then wonce they been on transporter and come off with hundreds of birds my friend takes them down to cheltenham 50 miles they have 10 from there till beating my mate back then i think about racing them but bring my training back down to warwick 20 miles 3 times a week monday tuesday wednesday thursday loft fly friday what im sending dont go out but what staying does saturday nothink out as waiting for the arrivals from race then back to training 20 miles monday tuesday wednesday same as week before what ways do you train your birds do you just keep them at say 20 miles and loft fly morning and train at night be good to hear how other people do it more the merryer i fly natural

 

all the best.

[PIGEON_MAN]

Are you having a laugh,I guess your talking youngbirds here,dont think I would give my birds that amount of tosses even if it was free,I do keep to what I would call the line of flight though,if you didnt win every club and fed race with all that training I would cut it down to a quarter of what your doing,and try that.

[Guest bakes]

Are you having a laugh,I guess your talking youngbirds here,dont think I would give my birds that amount of tosses even if it was free,I do keep to what I would call the line of flight though,if you didnt win every club and fed race with all that training I would cut it down to a quarter of what your doing,and try that.

 

yes yb training to be fair its nothink compair to some flyers i no that train there birds some people dont loft fly what so ever due to the amount of pob in our area and just train 30 miles everyday instead of exercise around loft as the number of pergrines sparrowhawks goshawks around this way is rediculus you cant even let birds out for exercise without an attack

 

all the best.

[OLDYELLOW]

3 x 10 mile 3 x 20 mile 3 x 30 miles thats all my old birds get if they get the weather , i train from good liberation sites more important the area you let them up to me , the birds will choose the line of flight

[clockman]

do you train on line off flight or train were ever you going i train line of flight wonce my birds have been rangeing for a week i take them down to corley 10 miles they have 10 from there until beating mate back then off to warwick 20 miles have 10 from there until beating mate back then off to stratford around 25 miles a few there and by that time my mate that takes my birds single them up in 1 minute inteviles so they got to come on there tod and when arriving back at loft they come one at a time a few minutes between each other then wonce there done that for 10 times i put on transporter training and they go evasham 30 miles as much as i can get the birds on there then wonce they been on transporter and come off with hundreds of birds my friend takes them down to cheltenham 50 miles they have 10 from there till beating my mate back then i think about racing them but bring my training back down to warwick 20 miles 3 times a week monday tuesday wednesday thursday loft fly friday what im sending dont go out but what staying does saturday nothink out as waiting for the arrivals from race then back to training 20 miles monday tuesday wednesday same as week before what ways do you train your birds do you just keep them at say 20 miles and loft fly morning and train at night be good to hear how other people do it more the merryer i fly natural

 

all the best.

Did all the training pay off at the racing?

[peterpau]

Tiz a problem if you're troubled with BOP but I don't train like that.

Mine used to come with me where ever I went North West South or East.If they are any good they should go any where. Line of flight for sprinting me thinks an hours flight may be. There again I work at the distance.

[Guest bakes]

Did all the training pay off at the racing?

 

no pergrine killed more or less everythink over lofts i had in a space of two weeks nocked birds back for six birds didnt wont to go out of lofts due to it hence why i only races them a few times another flyer got 4 ybs left out 40 and he never got to train them up or race them due to constant hammering by them same as my self everytime by back was turned smash after smash.

[Guest mick bowler]

Bakes i think the question you have to ask is wether you are training for young birds or old birds. In that way i mean that all these lads that are training daily or even twice daily are out to win YB races. If your just trying to educate them for OBs then they dont need half that what you said above. If a bird knows where home is then it does, if it doesnt then you can give it a 100 tosses and it will still go down. You need to give your YBs the "desire" to come home, and if they have that, then no amount of training can make them birds any better.

[Guest bakes]

Bakes i think the question you have to ask is wether you are training for young birds or old birds. In that way i mean that all these lads that are training daily or even twice daily are out to win YB races. If your just trying to educate them for OBs then they dont need half that what you said above. If a bird knows where home is then it does, if it doesnt then you can give it a 100 tosses and it will still go down. You need to give your YBs the "desire" to come home, and if they have that, then no amount of training can make them birds any better.

 

mick i no were you coming from and so on i done to much but to be far everythink was spot on and so on birds was absolute bouncing to be fair i had a good few people round and all said jesus they mean the bis not being big headed or nowt but my problems with my youngbirds didnt start until i had the constant nock after nock i no for a fact if it wasnt for them nocks my season would of been alot different as i had a cracking team of youngbirds and ask anyone thats been and seen them before the nocks they say the same to you but what you do when it happens it happens try to sort prob out but only ok for a while until another un come in im not being disraspectful or nowt but you there was nothink i could do due to them nocks i had some days i thought is it worth or the hassle and believe my im not one to quite and nothink it dont matter if i kept them in or just trained them as soon as they come over the woods smash after smash and belive me i try my god dame hardest to try to stop it from happening but if i could fly and stop pergrine from smashing into my birds when coming back i would but thats never going to happen its not just me its happening to astablished flyers thats been in the game some 40 some more it dont matter how much you nolidge the birds theres always somethink that puts you back to square one this year around my way was absolute rediculus mate and the sad thing about it it wont be no better coming season were nocking our heads of brick wall round here astablished flyers are looseing good birds to the basas birds that have raced well for them as youngsters only for the pob to have them when out exerciseing or being reported found dead ripped to bits

 

 

all the best.

[Guest Basin View]

I have singled up young birds and never found that a minute between each would be be long enough that they would be cleared before the next was released.

[JohnQuinn]

I have singled up young birds and never found that a minute between each would be be long enough that they would be cleared before the next was released.

 

Same here, have done it for years from groups of 6 down to single ups, doesn't seem to matter if you give them 5 mins never mind 1, they still find one another en route and come back together. I'm not suggesting it isn't possible, just i've not found any methods yet that would make them come in 1's when they are released only 1 or 2 mins apart.

[billt]

Same here, have done it for years from groups of 6 down to single ups, doesn't seem to matter if you give them 5 mins never mind 1, they still find one another en route and come back together. I'm not suggesting it isn't possible, just i've not found any methods yet that would make them come in 1's when they are released only 1 or 2 mins apart.

I agree with that John, it's a very special pigeon that heads for home alone they seem to know the others are coming and hang about

[Guest Basin View]

Totally agree, you probably need more time between each bird than most of us have to spare to get them homing individually, especially with a team of 20 to 30 young birds.

[Guest mick bowler]

Bakes, i would happily swap places with most flyers in the UK and ireland. There are not just the odd one or two percy here, there are tons of them, every day they are about. I have had my birds out twice since i stopped racing, yesterday and today. Both days there have been BOP. I did have one missing but it came back fortunatly.

 

The birds have to adapt, and so does the fancier.

 

I PM'd you a while ago how you can sort the problem, did anything ever happen?

[Guest bakes]

I have singled up young birds and never found that a minute between each would be be long enough that they would be cleared before the next was released.

 

im just going off what my mate said that takes my birds as i dont drive i pay him to take them for me petrol money good friend of mine family he said he gets one out of basket releases waits to clear then gets another out basket and release until hes libbed everythink singly in basket but when the birds have been coming back they have on there own with in a few minutes of each other not all the time must add some times i had a good few come on own and then a few come in 2's only going off what he told me might of been a minute to clear or might of been 5 minutes to clear he gives me a bell wonce all have cleared and on the way so i can go and drop landing board on trap and wait for them sitting on bench for them to arrive back i no its not ideal i would of liked to be there at lib site my self and see how they clear with my own eye but someone got to be at loft waiting for them to arrive back my mate tells me each time how they cleared and so when he gave me a bell to say there up

 

all best.

[clockman]

Same here, have done it for years from groups of 6 down to single ups, doesn't seem to matter if you give them 5 mins never mind 1, they still find one another en route and come back together. I'm not suggesting it isn't possible, just i've not found any methods yet that would make them come in 1's when they are released only 1 or 2 mins apart.

mine clear in 30 sec, the wrong way,

[Guest bakes]

Bakes, i would happily swap places with most flyers in the UK and ireland. There are not just the odd one or two percy here, there are tons of them, every day they are about. I have had my birds out twice since i stopped racing, yesterday and today. Both days there have been BOP. I did have one missing but it came back fortunatly.

 

The birds have to adapt, and so does the fancier.

 

I PM'd you a while ago how you can sort the problem, did anything ever happen?

 

im not saying its due to were i live and so on and yeah the answer to your pm a while back.

[walterbmasson]

BAKES THERES NO WAY WE COULD TRAIN AS MUCH AS YOUR DOING IN FACT IF WE GOT 2 TOSSES WITH OUT A STRIKE WOULD BE VERY LUCKY IN FACT THAT AMOUNT YOUR SAYING YOU SEND WE WOULD BE WIPED OOT

[Guest bakes]

BAKES THERES NO WAY WE COULD TRAIN AS MUCH AS YOUR DOING IN FACT IF WE GOT 2 TOSSES WITH OUT A STRIKE WOULD BE VERY LUCKY IN FACT THAT AMOUNT YOUR SAYING YOU SEND WE WOULD BE WIPED OOT

 

wont be happening no more i tell you that ive been doing to much lesson learnt and ive been doing more harm then good all this what you put in you get out is aload of rubbish it just make it worse and ive been there done it got the teashirt going to just be laid back from now on and take it as it comes as only makeing myself look like an *expletive removed* im keeping it simply from now on and definately wont be haveing a much training 3 from 10 3 from 20 3 from 30 and thats it as got me no were hammering down the road ok if you got big team but im only a small back yard flyer so ive been asking to much from start and all ive got to show for it is empty perchs point taken.

 

klaus

[JohnQuinn]

Nice one Klaus, first lesson is learn from your mistakes

[billt]

I've never been a big y/bird trainer, only basket training so they are happy to feed and drink in the basket, if they are ranging well at home I leave them to it as training tosses seems to stop them ranging, as for line of flight training, they must have a built in Sat. Nav. or we'd never see them again, and yes I have won y/bird Fed Averages

[Guest bakes]

I've never been a big y/bird trainer, only basket training so they are happy to feed and drink in the basket, if they are ranging well at home I leave them to it as training tosses seems to stop them ranging, as for line of flight training, they must have a built in Sat. Nav. or we'd never see them again, and yes I have won y/bird Fed Averages

 

thats all i doing from now on no more messing about with getting them down round as much as i can alright if you got big team of birds then if you have nock you got somethink else to add but im keeping it simple from now on and if someone wonts to hammer there birds down road they can but im not no more as you be asking for it liked i had this season got hardly nothink to show for it not worth it in end throwing birds away just to get a few more tosses in its not worth it. alright joe blogs up club saying get them down road but end of the day they dont give a monkeys about you or your birds as your compotition for them and i must of been a right laughing stock in there eyes this year shore wont be happening no more i tell you that keeping it simple.

 

klaus

[Guest bakes]

do you train on line off flight or train were ever you going i train line of flight wonce my birds have been rangeing for a week i take them down to corley 10 miles they have 10 from there until beating mate back then off to warwick 20 miles have 10 from there until beating mate back then off to stratford around 25 miles a few there and by that time my mate that takes my birds single them up in 1 minute inteviles so they got to come on there tod and when arriving back at loft they come one at a time a few minutes between each other then wonce there done that for 10 times i put on transporter training and they go evasham 30 miles as much as i can get the birds on there then wonce they been on transporter and come off with hundreds of birds my friend takes them down to cheltenham 50 miles they have 10 from there till beating my mate back then i think about racing them but bring my training back down to warwick 20 miles 3 times a week monday tuesday wednesday thursday loft fly friday what im sending dont go out but what staying does saturday nothink out as waiting for the arrivals from race then back to training 20 miles monday tuesday wednesday same as week before what ways do you train your birds do you just keep them at say 20 miles and loft fly morning and train at night be good to hear how other people do it more the merryer i fly natural

 

all the best.

 

i must say reading back what i gave my birds this year i feel like a complete plank i didnt think at the time as i had people saying to me get them down he road as much as you can but i should of done it the way i was going to do it myself i shore have learnt from this and it wont be happening again keeping it simple from now on and worry about number 1 not how so and so trains his birds as im the one now that got to work with what i got due to me be so keen and wanting to get as many tosses in as i can but in the end it done no good for me or the birds all i was doing was blowing the birds and to ask of them to race on top of what there already had is rediculus i hold my hands up and learnt from it feel like a right *expletive removed* but lesson has been learnt and it wont be happening again

[billt]

i must say reading back what i gave my birds this year i feel like a complete plank i didnt think at the time as i had people saying to me get them down he road as much as you can but i should of done it the way i was going to do it myself i shore have learnt from this and it wont be happening again keeping it simple from now on and worry about number 1 not how so and so trains his birds as im the one now that got to work with what i got due to me be so keen and wanting to get as many tosses in as i can but in the end it done no good for me or the birds all i was doing was blowing the birds and to ask of them to race on top of what there already had is rediculus i hold my hands up and learnt from it feel like a right *expletive removed* but lesson has been learnt and it wont be happening again

Well done Klaus, thats how we all learn

[and]

i must say reading back what i gave my birds this year i feel like a complete plank i didnt think at the time as i had people saying to me get them down he road as much as you can but i should of done it the way i was going to do it myself i shore have learnt from this and it wont be happening again keeping it simple from now on and worry about number 1 not how so and so trains his birds as im the one now that got to work with what i got due to me be so keen and wanting to get as many tosses in as i can but in the end it done no good for me or the birds all i was doing was blowing the birds and to ask of them to race on top of what there already had is rediculus i hold my hands up and learnt from it feel like a right *expletive removed* but lesson has been learnt and it wont be happening again

Bakes dont beat yourself up its what you have interpretated from advice given to you,training really means education when talking about to ybs by that i mean educating the birds to leave the basket and fly home as quickly and as direct as they possibly can,but remember training for fitness will do more harm than good.