Race Programme 2011

[Walter swanston]

I believe that some federations set their race programmes in January/February after the SNFC have published their programme.Is this a good idea??

[Chris Little]

Good question, another is....

 

Should a national programme dictate a federation's programme

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Yes if the Feds cant afford the cost to go past 250 miles themselves,

[PIGEON_MAN]

Yes if the Feds cant afford the cost to go past 250 miles themselves,

Why wouldnt a fed be able to afford to go anywhere, in our fed if it cost the fed £1000 to go somewhere and only 250 birds went then the members who sent would pay £4 a bird simple,same with any race each member pays a equal amount.

[WulDon]

Why wouldnt a fed be able to afford to go anywhere, in our fed if it cost the fed £1000 to go somewhere and only 250 birds went then the members who sent would pay £4 a bird simple,same with any race each member pays a equal amount.

 

Nae JOCK on this planet would pay £4.00 a bird to compete at Fed level,

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Why wouldnt a fed be able to afford to go anywhere, in our fed if it cost the fed £1000 to go somewhere and only 250 birds went then the members who sent would pay £4 a bird simple,same with any race each member pays a equal amount.

You dont know some of the men in Lanarkshire like i do as it is grudged if they have to pay a 0.75 to have a race from 320 miles, sometimes i think Lanarkshire is the poverty capital of the pigeon world .

[WulDon]

try flying in the dundee fed! lol

[PIGEON_MAN]

You dont know some of the men in Lanarkshire like i do as it is grudged if they have to pay a 0.75 to have a race from 320 miles, sometimes i think Lanarkshire is the poverty capital of the pigeon world .

Our longest fed race was 350 miles the fed charge was £2.33 per bird,we charged £3 a bird in the club the rest goes as prizemoney.The cheapest inland fed race was .38p a bird the dearest .61p that was for a 107 mile race.

[Walter swanston]

I do not believe that a federation should have its race programme dictated or even influenced by the national programme but increasingly I have begun to feel that I am in a minority in my view therefore surely I cannot be blamed for wishing to have some guidance fron the members on this controversy.

[dal2]

I do not believe that a federation should have its race programme dictated or even influenced by the national programme but increasingly I have begun to feel that I am in a minority in my view therefore surely I cannot be blamed for wishing to have some guidance fron the members on this controversy.

 

 

I personally think that if you have a plan in mind at the beginning of the year what doos are gan tae what national then it would be advantageous to know where the fed races are and whether or not they suit. Surely it would be of no real consequence tae the Solway fed if we waited on the SNFC as we have our own transporter and nothing needs booked in any real hurry. The first decision the fed members or committee must make is direction?

[Walter swanston]

I conpletely agree direction is of vital importance and so important that I believe it can best be decided by the members at an AGM I know that this is a tortuous way of doing things but a race programme cannot be proposed until the question of direction has been settled.The race programme in our federation has been heavily critcised over the last year ot two so I am going to make a conscious effort to get it right for once.The idea of a 5 year committment is still in the backgriund.I hope you will agree that these matters are for the membership to decide, not me alone or my committee.

[dal2]

I conpletely agree direction is of vital importance and so important that I believe it can best be decided by the members at an AGM I know that this is a tortuous way of doing things but a race programme cannot be proposed until the question of direction has been settled.The race programme in our federation has been heavily critcised over the last year ot two so I am going to make a conscious effort to get it right for once.The idea of a 5 year committment is still in the backgriund.I hope you will agree that these matters are for the membership to decide, not me alone or my committee.

 

 

Yep defo not a one man job Walter. It will be some meetin tho if its proposed by you, say Ripon, and then the rest of the meetin discuss/bicker that racepoint then vote. Then we move on tae the next race point.

I admire your idea of a fair view from every member and if individual clubs can come forward with a: The route they wish to fly and b:a proposed race program then that may be workable, parts could be selected from each clubs proposals by a committee or larger a meeting larger than a basic delegates meeting.

Cheers for listenin Walter

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Struggle to see the benefit in Solway flying from Ripon, Lanarkshire have raced from there plenty times and has been poor and at best average, liberating so close to the east side of the pinnines For Solway fanciers is like liberating a basket of your own doos 1 meter away from a 20 meters high wall which is an obstacle that pigeons can do without, jmo

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Struggle to see the benefit in Solway flying from Ripon, Lanarkshire have raced from there plenty times and has been poor and at best average, liberating so close to the east side of the pinnines For Solway fanciers is like liberating a basket of your own doos 1 meter away from a 20 meters high wall which is an obstacle that pigeons can do without, jmo

[dal2]

Struggle to see the benefit in Solway flying from Ripon, Lanarkshire have raced from there plenty times and has been poor and at best average, liberating so close to the east side of the pinnines For Solway fanciers is like liberating a basket of your own doos 1 meter away from a 20 meters high wall which is an obstacle that pigeons can do without, jmo

 

 

Well Gareth it was just an example but The solway has raced from there on a number of occasions when we did 3 or 4 seasons doon the east about 5 years ago

[JADE]

Good question, another is....

 

Should a national programme dictate a federation's programme

 

The national does not dictate a fed programme but it will influence it if enough members want to compete in the nationals. For instance hardly any Scottish feds race on Gold Cup weekend. For years most feds went to the south coast the week before the Gold Cup. The SNFC now race from Eastbourne that weekend. Who is influencing who?

[Walter swanston]

In my experience the Scottish National Flying Club is always "the elephant in the room" whenever race programmes are being discussed

[Guest IB]

Not all Feds go with SNFC. But between the falls in membership and the falls in birdage (during the season) OBs and YBs, IMO nowadays very few Feds can afford to set their race programme in isolation.

 

IMO what one org wants must influence another but it also requires co-operation & co-ordination of race programmes for joint convoying, rather than diktat, or doing your own thing.

[novo10]

what about a amalgamation with central almond valley northwest midland lanarkshire and westlothian

[Walter swanston]

Tell you what Novo10 interesting idea and might well be the way pigeon racing might go in the furure but at present my official line would have to be no comment.

[novo10]

what a feeling to beat 10000plus birds in amalgamation race