alex wight Posted September 4, 2010 Report Posted September 4, 2010 When i was at Kennoway i spent hours days and weeks working out a solution, and was based on what the welsh boys do. Our president change the figures and put them in words ie THREE for 3. This in turn caused total confusion. We should not have to rely on sales or birdage. I cant see the sense in someone sending 6 birds and saying that they are doing their bit. If someone sends a big team, its them that are supporting the fed. The position we should be in is to say this is what its going to cost to run our convoyer split between all members ie £16.500 split by 165 members = 100 pound each. Its so simple. So the guys that are sending every week are getting a fair crack of the whip, and the members who cant or wont fly, aint getting subsidised by others. If you are a football player, and the time comes where your not fit enough to play, you have to stop. However what we say in our sport is, i know your an oap or on the dole or cant afford your way, dont worry about it others will help you out. Sad but true. We as a fed need to look at the balance sheet. take away the birdage gained and sales and dance. Leaving what it cost us to run the transporter, and divide it by the membership. The money from the sales ect can then be divided through the members to cut costs dowm ie £16500 convoyer £ 1000 yb sale £ 1000 lb sale £ 1000 dance £16,500 divided by 165 members equals £100 each. £3000 gained in sales ect divided by 165 members equals £18. Take away £18 from £100 = £88 fees. Now the stick in the gullet is that the guys who couldnt give a toss get discount, this can be combated by taking the names of donours/buyers at sales and take the names who attend the dance, and that is the members who take full discount. If 100 members have shown support in one way or the other, divide the 3000 by 100 which would mean that these members would pay £70, where as the others have to pay the full £100. Pie in the sky..........maybe but something has to be done. I dont wear this one where people are getting on and poor. all they have to do is show support at the events held by the fed, and they will get a discount, simple? no? only my opinion.
JADE Posted September 4, 2010 Report Posted September 4, 2010 When i was at Kennoway i spent hours days and weeks working out a solution, and was based on what the welsh boys do. Our president change the figures and put them in words ie THREE for 3. This in turn caused total confusion. We should not have to rely on sales or birdage. I cant see the sense in someone sending 6 birds and saying that they are doing their bit. If someone sends a big team, its them that are supporting the fed. The position we should be in is to say this is what its going to cost to run our convoyer split between all members ie £16.500 split by 165 members = 100 pound each. Its so simple. So the guys that are sending every week are getting a fair crack of the whip, and the members who cant or wont fly, aint getting subsidised by others. If you are a football player, and the time comes where your not fit enough to play, you have to stop. However what we say in our sport is, i know your an oap or on the dole or cant afford your way, dont worry about it others will help you out. Sad but true. We as a fed need to look at the balance sheet. take away the birdage gained and sales and dance. Leaving what it cost us to run the transporter, and divide it by the membership. The money from the sales ect can then be divided through the members to cut costs dowm ie £16500 convoyer £ 1000 yb sale £ 1000 lb sale £ 1000 dance £16,500 divided by 165 members equals £100 each. £3000 gained in sales ect divided by 165 members equals £18. Take away £18 from £100 = £88 fees. Now the stick in the gullet is that the guys who couldnt give a toss get discount, this can be combated by taking the names of donours/buyers at sales and take the names who attend the dance, and that is the members who take full discount. If 100 members have shown support in one way or the other, divide the 3000 by 100 which would mean that these members would pay £70, where as the others have to pay the full £100. Pie in the sky..........maybe but something has to be done. I dont wear this one where people are getting on and poor. all they have to do is show support at the events held by the fed, and they will get a discount, simple? no? only my opinion. a lot of common sense and i agree with most of what you say. unfortunately the majority of pigeon fanciers dont give a toss about THEIR club or federation as long as they get their doos away on a friday. the ones you wont see after tonight until the first race marking next year. i agree up to a point with the "one off" fee but i do think that the big team guys should pay more after say 20 or 30 birds. even a nominal 10 or 15p per bird.
alex wight Posted September 4, 2010 Report Posted September 4, 2010 a lot of common sense and i agree with most of what you say. unfortunately the majority of pigeon fanciers dont give a toss about THEIR club or federation as long as they get their doos away on a friday. the ones you wont see after tonight until the first race marking next year. i agree up to a point with the "one off" fee but i do think that the big team guys should pay more after say 20 or 30 birds. even a nominal 10 or 15p per bird. Yes jade part of my proposal was that anyone sending more than 20 birds paid a further 10p per bird. Thank you for your support, alex.
cemetary Posted September 4, 2010 Report Posted September 4, 2010 When i was at Kennoway i spent hours days and weeks working out a solution, and was based on what the welsh boys do. Our president change the figures and put them in words ie THREE for 3. This in turn caused total confusion. We should not have to rely on sales or birdage. I cant see the sense in someone sending 6 birds and saying that they are doing their bit. If someone sends a big team, its them that are supporting the fed. The position we should be in is to say this is what its going to cost to run our convoyer split between all members ie £16.500 split by 165 members = 100 pound each. Its so simple. So the guys that are sending every week are getting a fair crack of the whip, and the members who cant or wont fly, aint getting subsidised by others. If you are a football player, and the time comes where your not fit enough to play, you have to stop. However what we say in our sport is, i know your an oap or on the dole or cant afford your way, dont worry about it others will help you out. Sad but true. We as a fed need to look at the balance sheet. take away the birdage gained and sales and dance. Leaving what it cost us to run the transporter, and divide it by the membership. The money from the sales ect can then be divided through the members to cut costs dowm ie £16500 convoyer £ 1000 yb sale £ 1000 lb sale £ 1000 dance £16,500 divided by 165 members equals £100 each. £3000 gained in sales ect divided by 165 members equals £18. Take away £18 from £100 = £88 fees. Now the stick in the gullet is that the guys who couldnt give a toss get discount, this can be combated by taking the names of donours/buyers at sales and take the names who attend the dance, and that is the members who take full discount. If 100 members have shown support in one way or the other, divide the 3000 by 100 which would mean that these members would pay £70, where as the others have to pay the full £100. Pie in the sky..........maybe but something has to be done. I dont wear this one where people are getting on and poor. all they have to do is show support at the events held by the fed, and they will get a discount, simple? no? only my opinion. Are you still moaning aboot this yet Eck, gee it a break, it will go away. If they put money onto the fees as Baldy has said, we all have to pay the same then, simples, at the end owe the day, if yir wanting ti fly yir doos yi will have ti pay it. As for people not going to the dance etc, yes there is a few on here who dont go, they would rather go else where ti enjoy themselves, as for myself, if at home i will be there, so that makes me support the fed.
alex wight Posted September 4, 2010 Report Posted September 4, 2010 Are you still moaning aboot this yet Eck, gee it a break, it will go away. If they put money onto the fees as Baldy has said, we all have to pay the same then, simples, at the end owe the day, if yir wanting ti fly yir doos yi will have ti pay it. As for people not going to the dance etc, yes there is a few on here who dont go, they would rather go else where ti enjoy themselves, as for myself, if at home i will be there, so that makes me support the fed. cheers for the support douglas, i,ve got pmt so leave me alone
sapper756 Posted September 4, 2010 Author Report Posted September 4, 2010 (edited) cheers for the support douglas, i,ve got pmt so leave me alone http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif PMThttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif I thought you had C.O.R.G.I. Alechttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif Edited September 4, 2010 by sapper756
alex wight Posted September 4, 2010 Report Posted September 4, 2010 PMT I thought you had C.O.R.G.I. Alec ahem its "gas safe" my dear fellow , corgi is so out
sapper756 Posted September 4, 2010 Author Report Posted September 4, 2010 ahem its "gas safe" my dear fellow http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif , corgi is so out http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif finger on the pulse Alechttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif did you get your one entry?
alex wight Posted September 4, 2010 Report Posted September 4, 2010 finger on the pulse Alec did you get your one entry? no not yet, still hopeful he will be here by nightfall
VMS Posted September 4, 2010 Report Posted September 4, 2010 hard neck calling it a national! Just what you would expect from A CLOWN.Hope the next time he goes begging for young birds for his fed sale the penny drops. :lol:
WulDon Posted September 5, 2010 Report Posted September 5, 2010 Just what you would expect from A CLOWN.Hope the next time he goes begging for young birds for his fed sale the penny drops. :lol: No probs 'CO CO'... wouldn't lift a finger in future for our fed now, run by a real bunch o clowns!!
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