Y/Bird Programe

[airdrie2]

WILL LANARKSHIRE BE RACING FROM CONSETT NEXT YEAR ?

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

WILL LANARKSHIRE BE RACING FROM CONSETT NEXT YEAR ?

 

More chance of Airdrie Utd winning promotion to the 1st division this year, lol

Seriously though I doubt it very much because whether its just a coincidence that we have had 2 bad young bird races or whether there is a serious problem with pigeons orientating from there then either way we really cant afford to risk young birds being liberated there again so new race point will be on the cards which is a shame as reports from many are that Consett is one of the best lib sites that we use.

[JohnQuinn]

More chance of Airdrie Utd winning promotion to the 1st division this year, lol

Seriously though I doubt it very much because whether its just a coincidence that we have had 2 bad young bird races or whether there is a serious problem with pigeons orientating from there then either way we really cant afford to risk young birds being liberated there again so new race point will be on the cards which is a shame as reports from many are that Consett is one of the best lib sites that we use.

 

Reports from the controllers contradict this Gareth, the area is surrounded by valley's and the birds are easily driven into them and then can't get out again. I have heard this personally and have no reason to doubt the information.

[frank-123]

since i was away on holiday

my young birds only made two races this year and i picked consett twice

i was told the same john about the valleys the boy said to me if they get in they valleys from training they end up in carlisle

 

next year hexham will do me no further

[gulkie]

More chance of Airdrie Utd winning promotion to the 1st division this year, lol

Seriously though I doubt it very much because whether its just a coincidence that we have had 2 bad young bird races or whether there is a serious problem with pigeons orientating from there then either way we really cant afford to risk young birds being liberated there again so new race point will be on the cards which is a shame as reports from many are that Consett is one of the best lib sites that we use.

Garith how can you say its one of the best sites we use

its been a disaster.

[sammy]

More chance of Airdrie Utd winning promotion to the 1st division this year, lol

Seriously though I doubt it very much because whether its just a coincidence that we have had 2 bad young bird races or whether there is a serious problem with pigeons orientating from there then either way we really cant afford to risk young birds being liberated there again so new race point will be on the cards which is a shame as reports from many are that Consett is one of the best lib sites that we use.

personally i think that the convoyer is the man who should decide on what sites to race from after all he is the man with the pigeons and should know the lay of the land and what race points have all the good amineties,very easy to sit here at pc and google places and have a look ourselves but the sites would look maybe better/worse to the naked eye so unless you are prepared to travel about the country looking for good sites then i dont think there is any point in going to agm and shouting for change to other points that we have not been to or have been to and came out of them for something like the same reason as consett ,i am all for change but at least to a bit of HOME WORK on them first and not just dive in , my personal opinion is racing should start at 50 mile with weekly jumps of 50 miles and starting the first weekend in may when we can be bop free thus saving many of our yearlings ,think about it

[dal2]

Solway fed have much the same issue wae Sedburgh. Its pinned in the hills and erevry local ive spoke to, when pickin up my hawked younguns, say they canny believe we race frae there. I think we have tae jump the cumbrian hills completely even if it means a slightly bigger jump in mileage than usual.

 

For me its a no brainer. If you gan tae a race point say three or four times and get three or four disasters then its time to move on.

[JohnJ]

Solway fed have much the same issue wae Sedburgh. Its pinned in the hills and erevry local ive spoke to, when pickin up my hawked younguns, say they canny believe we race frae there. I think we have tae jump the cumbrian hills completely even if it means a slightly bigger jump in mileage than usual.

 

For me its a no brainer. If you gan tae a race point say three or four times and get three or four disasters then its time to move on.

when i helped shu loft at kirknewton they jumped the birds from otterburn 70mls 2 thirsk 147 birds and droped only 3, food for thought ?

[Guest IB]

when i helped shu loft at kirknewton they jumped the birds from otterburn 70mls 2 thirsk 147 birds and droped only 3, food for thought ?

 

A few years back Scottish North West Fed race management reckoned there was 'a black hole' which pigeons seemed to come through OK [i.e. OK liberating either side of it] but the pigeons seemed to have bother getting their bearings if liberated within it. So in 2007 they tried the same, 4 short races to Otterburn 82 miles, then jumped to Ripon 157 miles. I dropped 1 from Ripon.

[JohnJ]

A few years back Scottish North West Fed race management reckoned there was 'a black hole' which pigeons seemed to come through OK [i.e. OK liberating either side of it] but the pigeons seemed to have bother getting their bearings if liberated within it. So in 2007 they tried the same, 4 short races to Otterburn 82 miles, then jumped to Ripon 157 miles. I dropped 1 from Ripon.

think we should maybe stay away from the tyne area

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Reports from the controllers contradict this Gareth, the area is surrounded by valley's and the birds are easily driven into them and then can't get out again. I have heard this personally and have no reason to doubt the information.

 

Funny how you can get two different stories from the one convoyer, ;)

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

think we should maybe stay away from the tyne area

 

Would tend to agree with you John as year after year Lanarkshire have failed to get successful young bird racing from this area though that said we got a good race from Sedgefield 2 weeks ago but this might have been down to favourable winds.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

since i was away on holiday

my young birds only made two races this year and i picked consett twice

i was told the same john about the valleys the boy said to me if they get in they valleys from training they end up in carlisle

 

next year hexham will do me no further

your a jinx and banned for 2011 :lol: :P

[JohnJ]

Would tend to agree with you John as year after year Lanarkshire have failed to get successful young bird racing from this area though that said we got a good race from Sedgefield 2 weeks ago but this might have been down to favourable winds.

got 2 agree with you but we do have 2 sort it out our sport in free fall and this not helpin , ive been at consett think it is a good site but when the is not right we get thumped ,jmo

[Guest bigda]

have 4 races this side of the border then start at 250 first for a all bird race come yearling open then its down to the birds 25-50 mile increase and if there are problems at the solway all your eggs are not in the one basket when they hit there

[HOMER49]

when i helped shu loft at kirknewton they jumped the birds from otterburn 70mls 2 thirsk 147 birds and droped only 3, food for thought ?

 

Hi John

What was AV y/b race program

Cheers

Homer 49

[JohnQuinn]

What i would say is that if you have proposals for the AGM's of your Fed, make sure you do everything you can to get information about the race points viability and some info from organisations who have used the site regards the type of racing they got from it.

My persdonal choice of route would be to run in an arc from Otterburn to Dorchester/Weymouth going through, Thirsk, Leeds, Nottingham, Leicester, Oxford and Salisbury. Not that i believe the racing would be easier but there is every chance, with the prevailing westerly winds, the doos will be over land most/all of their way home. JMO

[frank-123]

What i would say is that if you have proposals for the AGM's of your Fed, make sure you do everything you can to get information about the race points viability and some info from organisations who have used the site regards the type of racing they got from it.

My persdonal choice of route would be to run in an arc from Otterburn to Dorchester/Weymouth going through, Thirsk, Leeds, Nottingham, Leicester, Oxford and Salisbury. Not that i believe the racing would be easier but there is every chance, with the prevailing westerly winds, the doos will be over land most/all of their way home. JMO

 

can i ask will the management committee bring a route or routes to the table? john

 

i think it would be a good base to start from

[frank-123]

http://www.rpra.org/...80/Default.aspx

http://www.rpra.org/...79/Default.aspx

 

hopefully this might help some members make up a race programme

just remember we might need room for two wagons and water facilities

[Delboy]

Hi John

What was AV y/b race program

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

A/V programme, 2 x Stobs Camp, 2 x Otterburn, 2 x Consett, Catterick this Friday coming. May I say, I have been to 3 Consett yb races recently ( 2 with A/V and one with L.S.C )and lost 1 pigeon in total.

[frank-123]

A/V programme, 2 x Stobs Camp, 2 x Otterburn, 2 x Consett, Catterick this Friday coming. May I say, I have been to 3 Consett yb races recently ( 2 with A/V and one with L.S.C )and lost 1 pigeon in total.

 

you'll no be wanting all they latebreds seen your over stocked i will nip over on tuesday

[JohnQuinn]

To my knowledge Frank this has only happened on 1 or 2 previous occasions, the thinking behind it i couldn't tell you but i agree with you that there should be a proposal from the M/C at the meeting. I will put it to George when i see him and maybe a week or so before the Race Program AGM we could have a delegates meeting to discuss it.

I would welcome input to that from Jim Lennon and Jim Hannah who are probably the most informed men in our organisation. Again JMO!

 

 

[Delboy]

you'll no be wanting all they latebreds seen your over stocked i will nip over on tuesday

 

I seem to have a few unrung m8 all slipped the rings in nest

[frank-123]

I seem to have a few unrung m8 all slipped the rings in nest :D

 

oh am not wanting them there all from the bottom nests good luck with them whatever you do with them

[nogin]

personally i think that the convoyer is the man who should decide on what sites to race from after all he is the man with the pigeons and should know the lay of the land and what race points have all the good amineties,very easy to sit here at pc and google places and have a look ourselves but the sites would look maybe better/worse to the naked eye so unless you are prepared to travel about the country looking for good sites then i dont think there is any point in going to agm and shouting for change to other points that we have not been to or have been to and came out of them for something like the same reason as consett ,i am all for change but at least to a bit of HOME WORK on them first and not just dive in , my personal opinion is racing should start at 50 mile with weekly jumps of 50 miles and starting the first weekend in may when we can be bop free thus saving many of our yearlings ,think about it

GREAT POST SAMMY LAD WELL SAID M8