Ets Ring On Someone Elses Bird

[Guest strapper]

my m8 told me other day that he had a youngbird back from weeks and weeks ago...it came back with an ets ring on it...it may not seem very odd but he hasnt got ets!

 

now someone has had this bird in, trained it and raced it?...its a pity that you cant tell what club and flyer this ets ring belongs too!..wouldnt it be nice to knock on his door and kindly return his ring...and suitably shove it somewhere

[pjc]

There must be some data stored on the ring and sure it wouldn't be difficult to create the software to read it!

 

Wouldn't it be good if an ets bird came in and you scanned it on your pad it would tell you who the owner was to be able to report it?

[THE FIFER]

there is the owner of the rings union number on it m8,

[Guest homestead]

It would be interesting to see how this develops to see if he can be traced and are the union interested in tracing him

[Roland]

It would be interesting to see how this develops to see if he can be traced and are the union interested in tracing him

 

Well I don't think that they would be overly preturbed personally.

Like when we hear this scenario - which is as good as here - of having a 'Life chip' etc. never understand why, or the logic. If it is to be put into a Normal metal ring, then fine, wouldn't be took off to be re - used of course.

But that wouldn't couldn't stop this happening of course. and one would still have to be able to alter the owner.

So obviously will have to have the capability of being changed ... otherwise one could never transfer and change it to race.

A lighter ring possible etc.

[Whitepied]

If it was mine I'd chase it up but bin the bird

[alex wight]

Some sad people out there

[Guest challengerlofts]

Ets Ring On Someone Elses Bird, is this the way forward of having an ETS ring?

[ray]

they haven't just got an ets ring on it there racing it and its not transfered over, but the ets ring a club sec could if he wanted to find who it belongs to, we all have loft numbers and there asigned to that ring,

[Roland]

when you scan it through your clubs system it will come up with the other thieving barstuards union number. as said before only another club that gives a toss would notice it and do something about it. try and trace it and see how you get on

 

Well can't see how that can be, let alone happen.

My 'Used' ring can be deleted on a Base and used on another Bird. Bricon you can even do it your self. Of course you can ... And must be able to if a Chip is used. Otherwise once on no one could transfer it.

Feel a lot of wishfull think here.

All i know when I got shot of the 'Unikon' the ring on my were asked for as well as he can used them just the same. Of course he could. Just delete the birds details and replace as one would a new bird's details.

Lay a fiver with anyone that if a bird returns at a later stage and then doesn't register as before - because it has been altered that they can't trace it! Wishful thinking to otherwise I'd say.

[alex wight]

Well can't see how that can be, let alone happen.

My 'Used' ring can be deleted on a Base and used on another Bird. Bricon you can even do it your self. Of course you can ... And must be able to if a Chip is used. Otherwise once on no one could transfer it.

Feel a lot of wishfull think here.

All i know when I got shot of the 'Unikon' the ring on my were asked for as well as he can used them just the same. Of course he could. Just delete the birds details and replace as one would a new bird's details.

Lay a fiver with anyone that if a bird returns at a later stage and then doesn't register as before - because it has been altered that they can't trace it! Wishful thinking to otherwise I'd say.

 

 

There was a line missing from that quote, which read " There should be a way to check ets rings, so that they show they belong to you so....."

 

sorry for the confusion Roland, not here to confuse, but try and help

[PIGEON_MAN]

When allocating Unikon rings for some reason not all of them will accept the loft number so there is a chance it might not be in this particular ring,but any club sec.who as the system should be able to tell if there is,send it to me if you have any problems I will tell you what loft number is in there if there is one.

[Taylorsloft]

try moving the ring about when scanning them

[Taylorsloft]

When allocating Unikon rings for some reason not all of them will accept the loft number so there is a chance it might not be in this particular ring,but any club sec.who as the system should be able to tell if there is,send it to me if you have any problems I will tell you what loft number is in there if there is one.

 

 

move it about when scanning

[Guest spin cycle]

my m8 told me other day that he had a youngbird back from weeks and weeks ago...it came back with an ets ring on it...it may not seem very odd but he hasnt got ets!

 

now someone has had this bird in, trained it and raced it?...its a pity that you cant tell what club and flyer this ets ring belongs too!..wouldnt it be nice to knock on his door and kindly return his ring...and suitably shove it somewhere

 

 

being 'devils advocate'...what it the fancier put an ets ring on so that it could go in the race basket/transporter...to racepoint from which it got home?? would your mate rather have spent £40 sending for the bird? finally even if you trace the owner of the ring it proves nothing unless you can actually find the ring/bird on a race entry sheet. personally i think there should be a mechanism to allow us to race strays....that way the scottish stray i got in today could be libbed at dunbar in a couple of weeks if the owner wanted

[PIGEON_MAN]

move it about when scanning

Have tried allsorts with some of them but they just wont accept the loft number.

[PIGEON_MAN]

being 'devils advocate'...what it the fancier put an ets ring on so that it could go in the race basket/transporter...to racepoint from which it got home?? would your mate rather have spent £40 sending for the bird? finally even if you trace the owner of the ring it proves nothing unless you can actually find the ring/bird on a race entry sheet. personally i think there should be a mechanism to allow us to race strays....that way the scottish stray i got in today could be libbed at dunbar in a couple of weeks if the owner wanted

Surely if you contacted the owner he would agree to you sending it on the transporter even if it meant rubbering it.

[Roland]

Surely if you contacted the owner he would agree to you sending it on the transporter even if it meant rubbering it.

 

Just put another ET on the bird.

 

Catelae Lofts No prob, easy done.

[carlsberg]

why would he put an ets ring on at 1.30 a pop when a rubber is free unless he had it training and thought it would return

[Roland]

Exactly the same reason as he put a ET on it in the first place.... and in reality £1 30 is a ludicruss reason NOT to... might as well flog his ET system and get a T3. I mean why did he buy a ET in the first place.... Yep you've it, to use it.

[PIGEON_MAN]

Think what Carlsberg is saying is why put a £i.30 ETS ring on a STRAY PIGEON,why waste one on a stray when he could have put a rubber on it to perhaps try and get it back to its owner.

[ovy1255]

All nehu rings when assigned to a bird are also assigned a loft number these loft numbers are on record at the nehu and are prefixed with UN FOR UPNORTH=WD FOR WEST DURHAM=DC FOR DURHAM COMBINE you get the idea, this loft number can be seen by club sec with the relivant club master and traced.

[Roland]

Think what Carlsberg is saying is why put a £i.30 ETS ring on a STRAY PIGEON,why waste one on a stray when he could have put a rubber on it to perhaps try and get it back to its owner.

 

To race it

Now if you miss type a nmber in, then at club it is realised, are we saying that that ring is now useless. That a new one has to be used. Of course not. Seen them put right on the night!

So can't see how it can be traced... What I'm saying they needn't even change the ring to race it.... just the memory.... Now I see where - sorry - how the NEW memory on the ring cold well be traced if able to be read. Because in order to race it the MASTER would have it stored. THE supposed owners name would show up. And again - sorry - obviously these can be read for the pigeon might well race in 2 -3 -5 different clubs / races. Sorry again. Sorry it can be altered, and YES it could be traced.

[Guest youngboy]

very wrong of the fancier to catch in a pigeon and race is by not reporting it first

 

each odd ring number in our club must have a transfer form along side race sheet to prove the pigeoon is theres and so should every club

[Guest spin cycle]

in answer to why the bird had an ets ring instead of rubber.....perhaps the club is all ets and as (i believe) it is against the rules to put strays in racebaskets, the fancier would have to put one on to avoid the bird being spotted. perhaps the owner wasn't contacted as the finder would effectively be asking the owner if he wanted to break the rules. it is ,i admit, a little tenuous but possible. personally given the choice between one of my birds returning with an ets /rubber on and sending for it ...i'd prefer the former