Sick Looking Birds

[Fly_caster]

Hi All,

 

Two birds in the loft looked particularly off-colour this morning, resembling fluffed-up balls of feathers, didn't show much interest in their morning feed. They are both young birds - approx. 6 - 8 weeks old. On further investigation, I discovered some really green slimy droppings on one perch and some more watery green droppings on another perch, there was what looked like some undigested seed in one of the droppings, although I don't know what end it came from !

 

I have removed both birds to a separate compartment and into their own separate nest boxes with access to water only. I have not fed them since. Both birds were recently treated for worms, but that was more than a week ago. I'm sure that this condition only appeared, at the earliest, sometime yesterday.

 

Since segregating them, the droppings of both birds haven't really changed, just less of them I guess because I haven't fed them. All other birds seem and look fine, flying for nearly two hours this afternoon, albeit with the help of a large Sparrowhawk during the later stages of their regular exercise !

 

 

Anybody got any suggestions as to cause and cure.

 

 

Many thanks,

 

 

Steve

[Novice]

Are they vaccinated against PMV?

[Fly_caster]

Are they vaccinated against PMV?

 

No - they're not.

[Novice]

No - they're not.

That could be a possible cause but till you have it properly diagnosed I would try to ensure they at least have some water into their crops to stop them dehydrating.

[Fly_caster]

That could be a possible cause but till you have it properly diagnosed I would try to ensure they at least have some water into their crops to stop them dehydrating.

 

 

I have removed both birds to a separate compartment and into their own separate nest boxes with access to water only. I have not fed them since.

[Fly_caster]

Hi All,

 

This morning those two birds just seem worse - the bird with the watery droppings has now resorted to those of the slimy green variety and the other bird just looks sorrier for itself, no neck extension whatsoever and very little interest in anything other than drinking water. All other birds seem bright, droppings are more than acceptable and they are doing as YB's normally do.

 

 

Thanks for your interest everybody.

 

 

Cheers,

 

 

Steve

[novo10]

could have e-coli try med-pet for 4 in one ask for kevin winters

[Guest geordiejen]

if their is seed around the pen then its y/b sickness.the green watery sh** is probably caused by the same thing but could also be salmonella.when the birds go down sick with one thing it then opens doors to other diseases as the immune system is so weak.if they are sitting all blown up and looking bad then they are probably too far gone to treat but i cannot say as i cant see them.the best thing to do is to check the loft floor daily and perches for dodgy looking droppings.

[Guest joshdonlan]

more than likely YBS mate it is treatable, try to get some nifuramycin and treat for 3 days in the water, then treat for yeast the next day, then you need to give them probiotics. Do this with them all, not just the 2 sick as its more than likely they have been exposed to it.

[big blue bar]

go too ur local vet and ask for flajil (thats the way u say it not sure on the spelling) its a antibiotic 1/4 a pill for 3 days if it does nt pick up after that ur too late

[Guest joshdonlan]

No Flagyl is not an antibiotic, its a canker treatment. Nifuramycin from Rhonfried is what you need, 8 different antibiotics.

[big blue bar]

oh well!! abody is full of opinions . thought it was a antibiotic obviously i m wrong ,but it helped my birds ,same simptoms

[Guest peter4pm]

when i see any of my young birds doing this ...its the bin for them , as most dont come back around , so its really just a waste of time and energy..just my opinion ..

[Guest IB]

No Flagyl is not an antibiotic, its a canker treatment. Nifuramycin from Rhonfried is what you need, 8 different antibiotics.

 

Josh, Flagyl is an antibiotic. It treats bacterial & parasitic infections in humans.

[Guest bigda]

think they are to far gone put them in the bin and get all the other birds jagged

[gulkie]

hear hear big da correct.

[Fly_caster]

think they are to far gone put them in the bin and get all the other birds jagged

 

 

Done - Defo best option - agree that they seem to have gone too far and liable to spread it to the other birds, if not done so already, others still look good. Treating all for Cocci as a starter..............

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

WELLDONE....

[Guest bigda]

can be hard, but this pmv aint no place to harbour it for to long, get the bitds out spray the loft with some bleeach if you can manage it and put a spoon full of vinagar in the water keep a eye on the rest for a day or 2 dont feed to heavy for a day just small amounts 4 times a day

[novo10]

Josh, Flagyl is an antibiotic. It treats bacterial & parasitic infections in humans.

flagyl is for lady problems

[Guest IB]

flagyl is for lady problems

 

Two p/basics members (one male) were hospitalised in UK a number of years back with 'blood poisoning'. Both were put on a flagyl drip. The one thing I remember was they said they felt very ill going into hospital, but they felt even more ill (drained) after this treatment. Often wondered if it leaves humans feeling that way after treatment, how must a bird feel?

[Guest IB]

Done - Defo best option - agree that they seem to have gone too far and liable to spread it to the other birds, if not done so already, others still look good. Treating all for Cocci as a starter..............

 

I think you did the right thing with these birds, first isolating them, then giving them a couple of days to come round; disposing of them if they don't. However, you have already said you think the others are OK., so why blind treat apparently healthy pigeons? My advice is if you want to satisfy yourself that nothing is working on them, take a pooled droppings sample from them and send it off for tests for cocci & worms.

[Fly_caster]

So why blind treat apparently healthy pigeons? My advice is if you want to satisfy yourself that nothing is working on them, take a pooled droppings sample from them and send it off for tests for cocci & worms.

 

Funny how things happen - I had decided, with the help of fellow fanciers and mentors, to treat the birds against Canker, Worms and Cocci as a standard procedure. Many, many others do this too. I had managed to give the first two treatments, with a week between each treatment to let the birds get over their dosing before administering anything else...........these birds got sick just before the Cocci treatment.

 

Dropping samples leaving tomorrow.

 

Cheers for the advice and comments.

 

 

Steve

[REDCHEQHEN]

flagyl is for lady problems

 

 

Naw

 

It's for men's problems, one's you wouldn't like to share with your wife

[clockman]

Naw

 

It's for men's problems, one's you wouldn't like to share with your wife

can you explain please