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[Guest geordiejen]

guys ive been reading through this topic and ive been reading some people are mentioning aids?how the hell do you know your birds have aids.as for young birds sickness i get it with a few youngsters from time to time.i isolate them and treat them with adenosan.dont believe in flock treating and dont want to treat a healthy bird its unnessessary.dont give much meds to pigeons but i do use a few drops of sterilising fluid in the water if i suspect any dodgy looking droppings on the loft floor.after this i give them pro biotics for a few days.

[Guest IB]

guys ive been reading through this topic and ive been reading some people are mentioning aids?how the hell do you know your birds have aids.as for young birds sickness i get it with a few youngsters from time to time.i isolate them and treat them with adenosan.dont believe in flock treating and dont want to treat a healthy bird its unnessessary.dont give much meds to pigeons but i do use a few drops of sterilising fluid in the water if i suspect any dodgy looking droppings on the loft floor.after this i give them pro biotics for a few days.

 

Sorry if I alarmed you. Circovirus is the pigeon equivalent of AIDS in humans, it attacks and damages the young bird's bursa, which is a special immune system organ that does it's job then dies off when the young bird becomes sexually mature. Circovirus basically stops it doing the job it's designed to do.

 

Literature is a bit contradictory on circovirus testing. Some researchers say it cannot be detected (for example to make sure the stock birds are clear) others say there is a kit available.

 

Now watch the adverts bar on the right of the screen over the next few days. Bet a circovirus testing service / kit appears

[Roland]

Can only follow the logic on this debate where a table of top flyers, and a prominent Vet ALL agreed and stated that the sooner, say Y/B'S, goes through the loft the better.... treat for all and not repeatedly and constantley individuals. So yes I.B. as I've often stated that is the reason they leave vomit etc. for others to peck at. regardless of our disgust, or thinking!

Llikewise, as most will know innoculation is mostly a mild form of whatever you are inoculatinge against. SO THE immune system can then allow natures great cures to take place and build an immunity up. This is how mongrel dogs wandered streets showing ill effects from pavro etc.

The immune system must be given a chance to build up resistance.

Yes I agree we need to very often take action and use remendies to couter act, and ease, help our birds sometimes. Of course we do, but the quicker a loft is sort THROUGHOUT the better, and not having the problem of constant recurrences.

[Roland]

Further, it is a bit monger spreading eh, a bit drastic to compare YB/S with Aids. Rather silly really as y/b’s is cured, can be gotten over with little or no ill effects! Besides the reality is very few die to say the least. Well unless culled.

Like F/M really, drastic action is taken… whether needed or not I don’t know.

Inoculations / cures is to me, one that can be likened to this ‘Tuberculosis’ issue regards Cattle and Badgers. One is pork and the other is beef . Strong case as ever that cattle don’t get it from badgers… Farmers losing out – or not of course have a different view and with a different aspect.

So it appears that the most cost effective strategy is to inoculate all Badgers, and all Cattle. Which even with regards of the man hours etc. put in the overall cost is less than the insurance having to be paid out each year somewhere.

So I am led to believe (Dafra have interesting reading in this regards). Plus the cost of the farms closure. then add the cost it has on lost trading of the infected farms. Yet still it is being put on hold .

Incidentally that is why there has never been so many supposedly ‘Road Killed’ badgers left on side of the road.

Hands up all those that have seen a badger crossing a road at night! No! It is very rare to say the least, and then to be hit… Yet we see new carcesses every other day now! Come on now get real! They are being dragged out with a Hoe like contraption (Which when the badger get hold of after repeatedly struck and jabbed at, they won't let go of). then they are clobbered to be left at the road side.

I’ve done over 20 years of night driving coming back from gigs… indeed with my band and Groups you can double that and then some more, and yet I’ve never ever seen a badger on the road at night!