What Is Wrong With My Birds

[REDCHEQHEN]

We've had a lousy old bird season - great last year - most were the same birds this year and they're just getting further and further behind

 

Had them to the vet on Monday and there's nothing wrong with them (only my bank balance now )

 

Before taking them to the vet - somebody did pass comment and said - 'there's nothing wrong with them - it's motivation'

 

so maybe it is - but how can I motivate them even more - we fly one section roundabout and another natural

[sapper756]

I use to fly roundabout, racing both cocks and hens, however I found out that the more a bird hurries home to the loft to find it,s mate has not arrived yet, the bird becomes wise to this, and its eagerness to get home quick deteriorates, so I decided to fly cocks only on the widowhood, and their mate is always ready and waiting for them, worth considering http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

[Guest mick bowler]

What did the vet test for?

[DJWa]

We've had a lousy old bird season - great last year - most were the same birds this year and they're just getting further and further behind

 

Had them to the vet on Monday and there's nothing wrong with them (only my bank balance now )

 

Before taking them to the vet - somebody did pass comment and said - 'there's nothing wrong with them - it's motivation'

 

so maybe it is - but how can I motivate them even more - we fly one section roundabout and another natural

my guess is youve changed/adjusted something possibly without realiseing it

if its not health/fitness what is differant to last year feed/meds/training/

exercise-changed the times altered thier routines

 

thats what i would be looking at first jmo dave

[Tony C]

I think the weather has a lot to answer for. Persistent cold north easterly winds twinned with chilly nights doesn't allow form to come easily. A few weeks back I decided to lock my pigeons up for a week because I wasn't happy with them or their condition. 1st fed the following week 2nd fed two weeks later.......... its not always a health problem.

[REDCHEQHEN]

What did the vet test for?

 

 

I took 6 birds with me and droppings from each section

all birds were swabbed throat and cloaca, and droppings cultured

 

no canker, no yeast, no salmonella, no worm eggs, cocci count 100, 300 & 2200 from the 3 samples

 

We won Clermont last year in a NE wind (1st & 2nd) and although the race was a disaster this year - we were nowhere

 

sapper - although we race roundabout our best hens are paired to non-racing cocks - so they're always there for the hens

 

The birds are having a rest this week

[sapper756]

I took 6 birds with me and droppings from each section

all birds were swabbed throat and cloaca, and droppings cultured

 

no canker, no yeast, no salmonella, no worm eggs, cocci count 100, 300 & 2200 from the 3 samples

 

We won Clermont last year in a NE wind (1st & 2nd) and although the race was a disaster this year - we were nowhere

 

http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gifsapper - although we race roundabout our best hens are paired to non-racing cocks - so they're always there for the hens http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

 

The birds are having a rest this week

 

VERY GOOD M8http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

[OLDYELLOW]

pair them up

[REDCHEQHEN]

my guess is youve changed/adjusted something possibly without realiseing it

if its not health/fitness what is differant to last year feed/meds/training/

exercise-changed the times altered thier routines

 

thats what i would be looking at first jmo dave

 

 

their routine HAS changed this year

 

also some of the hens had started pairing - but they're being boxed up and they don't like it !

 

pair them up

 

 

no chance

 

too much work

[OLDYELLOW]

their routine HAS changed this year

 

also some of the hens had started pairing - but they're being boxed up and they don't like it !

 

 

 

 

no chance

 

too much work

lol just paired mine back up be split again soon

[Guest rodders]

their routine HAS changed this year

 

also some of the hens had started pairing - but they're being boxed up and they don't like it !

 

 

 

Posted Today, 19:50 PM

 

pair them up

 

 

no chance

 

too much work

 

 

we race roundabout noticed hens were less willing to fly on exercise bearing in mind havnt been out first 4 in club except 1 race when was 5th

so we paired them back up and took 2nd 4th 5th chasing to nest this week on eggs and looking very keen but saturday will tell if we was right or wrong only 3 inland races left and i think ours had clicked to system and was going stale

[Guest spin cycle]

had exactly the same experience. i had a good 2008, then 2009 was just about saved by a good result in the last ob race...then 2010 and my results were looking the same as 2009 up until 30th april when i was last. i was pretty sure my birds were fit & healthy....so i sat down and pondered why wiining birds from 2008 had turned into also rans. the first thing i decided was to try to recreate my loft set up from 2008. this was difficult because both the loft and nestboxes were different...but i had to start somewhere so i gave it a go. needless to say it worked and i'm very happy with my season now. you have to start somewhere...if only to prevent next year being the same and i think oldyellow is right...pair them up and just fly one system. good luck to you

[REDCHEQHEN]

We have paired them up before for the last races - and it just didn't work

[DAVIDL]

you said yourself, the hens are pairing up to each other..........so they arnt going to be as keen with the cock they are paired to maybe ?

 

also was reading article today and the fancier said sometimes over use of the hen when racing widowhood is not good, something worth thinking about maybe ?

[Guest spin cycle]

We have paired them up before for the last races - and it just didn't work

 

perhaps they've lost there 'love of home'...how about putting both sections on natural...straw on the floor and open hole for a week...following week train to race fitness and send

[OLDYELLOW]

you said yourself, the hens are pairing up to each other..........so they arnt going to be as keen with the cock they are paired to maybe ?

 

also was reading article today and the fancier said sometimes over use of the hen when racing widowhood is not good, something worth thinking about maybe ?

in fairness i pair my hens to me and they've not looked at each other , Braspenning never puts same hen to his cocks keeps them all more motivated

[Guest mick bowler]

You dont mention test for resp? Also i thought it took more than 3 days for culture tests? Mind you sounds like hens dont like being penned, mine were the same, first year i did it, couldnt race for nothing.

 

I would always pair mine up for the longer races, and although they came well on RB they would excel on eggs/YBs. Its important to keep their sharpness, exercise seperatly except sunday, make sure they also exercise well, if not then train them, and you can also seperate them when sitting so they just see each other on changeover.

[Guest stb-]

We've had a lousy old bird season - great last year - most were the same birds this year and they're just getting further and further behind

 

Had them to the vet on Monday and there's nothing wrong with them (only my bank balance now )

 

Before taking them to the vet - somebody did pass comment and said - 'there's nothing wrong with them - it's motivation'

 

so maybe it is - but how can I motivate them even more - we fly one section roundabout and another natural

THEY MAY WELL BE HEALTHY BUT ARE THEY FIT AND FED TO SIT YOUR SYSTEMS

 

WEATHER CHANGES QUITE A BIT JUST NOW BEING 25 DEGREES SOME DAYS

 

SO FEEDING GOT TO BE CHANGED TO SUIT .