budgie Posted May 16, 2010 Report Posted May 16, 2010 What is more important having great returns ever week/ always last/ or racing to improve your team and try and get to a LEVEL its worth Bumming about.
dal2 Posted May 16, 2010 Report Posted May 16, 2010 I race in a mega competitive club and take my fair share of loses but always aiming to win in june and july. The 98% rule is quite right but the truth is u must accumulate to speculate.The birds that you send you hope can do the job and are prob are bred from the best you have. Last year I had a cock that top the fed and this year is a pile of steamin. He is from the best I could breed so how do you way it up?
gulkie Posted May 16, 2010 Report Posted May 16, 2010 the latters the only answer to that andy,every must strive toimprove.
Guest spin cycle Posted May 16, 2010 Report Posted May 16, 2010 my own ,limited, experience is that the result is most important...because if you are competitive chances are the birds are right and so your returns should be ok. if the birds are fit you should not loose many JMO
jonl6280 Posted May 16, 2010 Report Posted May 16, 2010 if we all bred 6 birds each !!! then i bet it would be a very different sport mob flyer's bye byegood doo's very rare poolers.... would be easyier being realistic budgie
JohnQuinn Posted May 16, 2010 Report Posted May 16, 2010 "Being Realistic" If your realistic you'll know you can't predict which of your team of young birds or yearlings are gonna turn out to be good doos, so you need numbers to wittle down the rubbish. Winning every year would be great but winning when you get to the races you really want to win from is more satisfying, and skilful if you ask me. JMO
jonl6280 Posted May 16, 2010 Report Posted May 16, 2010 "Being Realistic" If your realistic you'll know you can't predict which of your team of young birds or yearlings are gonna turn out to be good doos, so you need numbers to wittle down the rubbish. Winning every year would be great but winning when you get to the races you really want to win from is more satisfying, and skilful if you ask me. JMO john how did u get on with returns m8
JohnQuinn Posted May 16, 2010 Report Posted May 16, 2010 Hi John jnr, still 8 missing fae 38 sent. I was overdue a stinker!
Guest IB Posted May 16, 2010 Report Posted May 16, 2010 What is more important having great returns ever week/ always last/ or racing to improve your team and try and get to a LEVEL its worth Bumming about. I don’t think your multiple choice questions show how to up 'your' game. If you have set your stall to win from the distance, then being at the bottom of the sheet at this time of year doesn’t really matter. What does matter is getting them home every week, because if you don’t by the time the distance races come around you’ve none to send because you’ve sacrificed them on club & fed racing. So you've no idea of the distance capabilities of those sacrificed birds. ‘Racing to improve your team’. I’m puzzled by that one. I thought breeding was the first step in improving the team. Then testing the progeny. If as you say 98% of pigeons bred are rubbish, then surely it’s their breeding that needs a good long look at, not their racing.
JohnQuinn Posted May 16, 2010 Report Posted May 16, 2010 Put that in yer pipe an smoke it Budgie :D :D :D
nogin Posted May 16, 2010 Report Posted May 16, 2010 Put that in yer pipe an smoke it Budgie :D :D :D I'VE TOLD HIM BEFORE JOHN...BUDGIE BY NAME BUDGIE BY NATURE
HOMER49 Posted May 16, 2010 Report Posted May 16, 2010 I'VE TOLD HIM BEFORE JOHN...BUDGIE BY NAME BUDGIE BY NATURE HiYou mean Cheap/Cheap naw never our AndyCheersHomer 49
nogin Posted May 16, 2010 Report Posted May 16, 2010 HiYou mean Cheap/Cheap naw never our AndyCheersHomer 49 NAW BUM/BUM/BUM/BUM ESSO BLUE
Guest stb- Posted May 16, 2010 Report Posted May 16, 2010 NAW BUM/BUM/BUM/BUM ESSO BLUE HUZ BUDGIE GOT THE LAWN MORE NO GORDON
nogin Posted May 16, 2010 Report Posted May 16, 2010 HUZ BUDGIE GOT THE LAWN MORE NO GORDON IF HE'S GOT IT.....WELL.... I DONT THINK HE'S CAPABLE OF CUTTING ANYONE'S GRASS, EH HOMER
budgie Posted May 17, 2010 Author Report Posted May 17, 2010 Put that in yer pipe an smoke it Budgie :D :D :D Mr Quinn the Honorable Gentleman you refer to is more theory oriented than Practical.What % of guid Doos does he have and is he successful on the racing scene. And if so at what Level.
budgie Posted May 17, 2010 Author Report Posted May 17, 2010 I don’t think your multiple choice questions show how to up 'your' game. If you have set your stall to win from the distance, then being at the bottom of the sheet at this time of year doesn’t really matter. What does matter is getting them home every week, because if you don’t by the time the distance races come around you’ve none to send because you’ve sacrificed them on club & fed racing. So you've no idea of the distance capabilities of those sacrificed birds. ‘Racing to improve your team’. I’m puzzled by that one. I thought breeding was the first step in improving the team. Then testing the progeny. If as you say 98% of pigeons bred are rubbish, then surely it’s their breeding that needs a good long look at, not their racing.What % of Good Pigeons do you have and are you successful at racing and at what level.
Guest IB Posted May 18, 2010 Report Posted May 18, 2010 What % of Good Pigeons do you have and are you successful at racing and at what level. I want to fly the channel races with SNFC and be successful at that level. I don't think theres any higher level. 2009 was the first year I attempted the programme, with yearlings and 2-yos:- Alencon - sent 1, homed out of race time.Andrezel - sent 2, 0 home.Ypres - sent 2, 1 home, took Open position.Falaise - sent 2, timed 2, didn't make result. They were the only birds home in my local club. For me success is measured by the targets you set yourself and your birds. I've more pigeons going this year, and they wouldn't be going if I didn't think they were good enough. I have also learned lessons from last year's experience of racing at this level, and my targets are therefore higher.
budgie Posted May 18, 2010 Author Report Posted May 18, 2010 I want to fly the channel races with SNFC and be successful at that level. I don't think theres any higher level. 2009 was the first year I attempted the programme, with yearlings and 2-yos:- Alencon - sent 1, homed out of race time.Andrezel - sent 2, 0 home.Ypres - sent 2, 1 home, took Open position.Falaise - sent 2, timed 2, didn't make result. They were the only birds home in my local club. For me success is measured by the targets you set yourself and your birds. I've more pigeons going this year, and they wouldn't be going if I didn't think they were good enough. I have also learned lessons from last year's experience of racing at this level, and my targets are therefore higher.Well done on your Ypres Result.How long have you been setting Targets and have you had any luck at Club/Fed level.Quality of the pigeons are of great importance and in every loft there are only a handfull and belive me it is higher than 98% .All the best 2010 and i look forward to looking for your results. And dont forget Pigeons are for racing not to look at During the Winter months.
REDROCKET Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 if we all bred 6 birds each !!! then i bet it would be a very different sport mob flyer's bye byegood doo's very rare poolers.... would be easyier being realistic budgie doo you mean 6 birds each or 6 baskets of birds each i just about done my back in lifting you lot to the ets system last week mob flyers for ever
Guest IB Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 Well done on your Ypres Result.How long have you been setting Targets and have you had any luck at Club/Fed level.Quality of the pigeons are of great importance and in every loft there are only a handfull and belive me it is higher than 98% .All the best 2010 and i look forward to looking for your results. And dont forget Pigeons are for racing not to look at During the Winter months. Targets started a couple of years back with the realisation that although it was distance pigeons I had, I was not getting to test them in distance races because they were being lost in Fed racing - that was the point I made in my earlier post, trying to treat my pigeons like sprinters, training 2/3 times a week for Fed., and just squandering good birds on wrong type of racing. So target had to be long distance racing, that's what these birds are for. Wasn't at first Ypres race but at 449 miles thought it an excellent target to get my yearlings out of, (going on to France as 2-yos) and thats where I wanted mine to go, previously it had been the Coast. So winter of 2008/9 decided that in 2009 my yearlings would go to Coast or Ypres, and my 2 - yos to France. The 3 that I had home from channel last year are going to Reims, the Ypres bird injured his wing before racing began, so he sits it out till next year, but he would have been for Reims too. In club and fed, highest positions I've taken are 2nd Club and 12th Open, and those were in 2008, YBs. Also won my first cup then, first bird in club from SNFC YB Leicester. 2009 my first trophies (4) for best average Opens + Falaise; first bird in club from SNFC Falaise; first bird in club from SCC Falaise; and joint highest points winner, YBs.
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