Beanz Posted September 20, 2006 Report Posted September 20, 2006 Had A pigeon reported in South Wales been ringing local Amtrack depot for 3 days cannot even get a reply, tried the 0800 number on the boxes gave up when no one answered after 20 minutes even got up out of bed after working nights to try and catch them, in the end I have given up and told the fancier to keep it, even though I would have liked it back. Beginning to think that they have a take it or leave it attitude.
rockinrick Posted September 20, 2006 Report Posted September 20, 2006 amtrak are a bunch of %^%&&^^ cowboys m8 if ya read some of the posts on ere ya will see lol
ALF Posted September 20, 2006 Report Posted September 20, 2006 GOT TO SAY THAT FINGERS CROSSED I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH THEM SO FAR : : ;D ;D
T_T Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 Beanz, I think you will find that Amtrak have changed their number. Try 01622-792086 Good luck
Beanz Posted September 21, 2006 Author Report Posted September 21, 2006 T_T, IF THEY HAVE CHANGED THEIR NUMBER IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR THEM TO TELL PEOPLE, THE BOXES WERE ONLY GIVEN TO ME THE WEEK BEFORE WHEN i SENT SOME BIRDS TO A FRIEND OF MINE, IN MY DEALINGS WITH AMTRACK I WOULD SAY THE RATIO OF GOOD TO BAD WOULD BE 60-40 IN THEIR FAVOUR AT THE MOMENT.
westburylofts Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 Yep true to form they got it wrong again, phoned my local depot to arrange for a bird to collected on monday person who has the pigeon waits in all afternoon and guess what no one turns up, i rang local depot up again tue's morning they told me that the driver had snapped the key in the ignition of his van so could not collect the said bird, was told they would collect tue's, i rang the gent that had the bird to say collection would be that afternoon, on telling him the reason for them not collecting on monday he chuckled thats not what they told me at my depot it was missed off the pick up forms by mistake, easy done i thought, so why do they not just tell you the truth. AMTRAK GET YOUR STORYS RIGHT ALSO HAVE TO SAY THAT BOTH MYSELF AND THE OTHER KIND FANCIER COMPLAINED TO OUR LOCAL DEPOT'S BIRD TURNED UP TODAY AT NO CHARGE. RAY
NANCYVIEWLOFTS Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 i to have never had any problems with amtrak but i know some fanciers have
Wiley Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 lol these amtrak bad reports always come on when im either sending for pigeons or sending pigeons off! ??)
Tony C Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 I had a pigeon reported from within an army barracks once. Arranged with Amtrak to pick up the pigeon from there. The pigeon was left at the front gates awaiting pick up. Amtrak failed to pick up the pigeon, their excuse...........................they knocked but nobody answered.
Guest Paulo Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 quality all the guard must have been watching adult movies in the guard room its been done before lol
Guest ukseanuk Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 It about time we all stand our ground and say thats anoth amtrak pull ya finger out or loose us.Sure to god theirs another firm that would take care of our birds. What do u think? ;D
bewted Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 allways bad stories told,but,how about the good stories,,,,,its easier to knock a service than praise it,,,,ted
Guest ukseanuk Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 interlink didnt know their stoped? thought their was still collecting birds. never really used them. ;D infact interlink was cheaper than amtrak so if interlink as stoped then no wounder why amtrak can charge what their doing and mess us around
Guest Paulo Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 Personally speaking I haven't had a problem with them yet
Roland Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 Nor me... been first rate.... And even if I did / do, I'd sill say overall 'It is a blumming good job they are there and hic cups of not, many are, and hopefully will grateful for their services. Wouldn't even be this amount reported, let alone called for if they weren't'. In stead of knocking, just think of all the hours, costs you will incurr without them! aLSO, VOICE AN OPINION TO THEM ALSO, But they will be fondly remembered - like so many others when they tell us to get stuffed and fetch your own flippy birds! Yes of course they aren't perfect, yes they have to employ some off the ftreet that are to be learnt, or sacked, but that goes with every territory!
Guest Paulo Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 Thats it like at the end of the day it would be hard to transport pigeons any other way. Costs are expensive but fuel will pay a big factor in that Fat Gordie Brown loves taxing the stuff
Roland Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 Costs would be high ... then again it would be that the 'Couriers' take so far and pass onto another courier. More hassle and the element of Human error. Great believer me in 'You can always do without Tom, Dick or Harry ... But how much better can you do with them'! When I was a lad, the Rail took out birds, not only to the 'Race Points' but trained them via being released by the Station Master when clear, with a Filled in form as to the wind, and weather like. They also relayed the strays back to stations, and then either brought them mostly to the door step. They put a lot of time and effort into pleasing our hobby. Indeed, transport wise it has never been bettered. A few wanted to make a quick buck and many found reasons to complain. Scare mongering became the norm - after Beechams' evil money making scheme took off, just look a the profits the government reel in from Oil / Diesel etc. revenue - Till BR gave them warnings back... use us or lose us. We lost them... down hill fast. So a few had a car, many more didn't... some share, many more struggled. This was when the Conn men were starting to sell the 'Sprint Races' that they so ably exploited. Change for change sake rarely pays dividends. Some will always be able to have an angle. Now many don't bother to even wing stamp ... which many believe they don't want it back if lost.... so don't bother. Many more just don't bother anyway, because some are and have been just down right rude and pig ignorant! 'If’s mine... well why bother to waste a phone call... neck it'. Or politely 'Are you a Fancier, as to a member of the public ... Good, will you do us the honours'. Etc. etc. And those that send want their birds back pay extra, for fewer are using it! I don't think for a minute that Amtrax could survive for a moment on pigeon returns alone. Seen many attempts and great idea's come and go... still have to see one last more than a year! Indeed it s fast becoming I would ascertain when it will be more hassle than its worth!
Guest shadow Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 It is to be hoped Amtrack do not pack in as the only other alternative would be very expensive. Express couriersthat will carry livestock, £50 from northwich to leeds.
Guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 cant understand y the post office didnt jump in and take on board the carrying of birds. i have had dealings with amtrak recently(other week)when they had confirmed that morning that everything was ok then later on said they didnt have any record of my request for a pick up? it doesnt matter how much goes wrong...nothing will be done by amtrak to correct it.it seems they dont want the business really,or else they would be correcting the wrongs. they have the pigeon world by the b@lls and it will continue to be this way for the forseable future. it used to be a fairly good service ...always polite drivers would call too,and would have a good natter b4 they left. nevermind.. we wil just have to grin and bare it.
Roland Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 Yep soon they will not only not want the buisness, they won't bother to have it... Mind whilst travelling around the different parts of the country spending time and money, will meet some nice folks, and see quite a bit of the countryside we haven't seen before. So every cloud has a silver lining... unless of course one can't get, or then want their bird back... mostly due to the fact, time and cost...
THE FIFER Posted September 21, 2006 Report Posted September 21, 2006 I THINK THE PROCEDURE WITH AMTRAK IS BIRDS GO TO A DEPOT ,THEN PUT ON A NIGHT TRAIN TO NEAR DESTINATION THEN PICKED UP BY AMTRAK
Beanz Posted September 21, 2006 Author Report Posted September 21, 2006 Trouble is Rose he does not cover all areas, maybe it is time to bring up the subject of stray centres again.
Guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Posted September 22, 2006 maybe someone to work in conjunction with him. food for thought
Guest Paulo Posted September 22, 2006 Report Posted September 22, 2006 I might become the jedi of pigeon transport when I pass my test and you can be my padawans
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