loft floors

[aarden]

could members tell me what theres floors are made of,ive been told to avoid plywood floors,would you agree or not

   cheers aarden

[billymac]

HI AARDEN,CAN I ASK WHAT REASON YOU WERE GIVEN TO AVOID PLYWOOD FLOORS?

[Dougie]

Where you told why? All my floors are plywood and I have no problems.

[aarden]

hiya lads,i visited a loft on sunday and the guy told me that wen the floors get wet from the water fountains it makes the plywood ripple and brake.everyone loft manufacturer i fone all say they use plywood floors.

i just wanted your advice

[stevebelbin]

My floors in my widowhood loft are made of 12.5mm internal grade plywood on 50mm insulation on a damp proof membrane on 12.5mm painted external grade plywood. If you dont fill the water fountain to the top you shouldnt get any water on the floor.

[Guest]

;Dmy floors also 12.5 mm (1/2") ply , insulated . suggest putting youre drinker on a grill (same as widow cocks stand on) to allow air to pass beneath . sheds been up 3 years no distortion of timber . also do as jimmy white suggests move the drinker & stand right or left each day so if any dampness on floor , has a chance to dry !  ;D ;D hope the above makes sense , best of luck  . andy.

[REDCHEQHEN]

could members tell me what theres floors are made of,ive been told to avoid plywood floors,would you agree or not

   cheers aarden

 

I agree with you, new plywood floors we put down this year need replacing - but nothing to do with water, its all splintered through catching with a scraper, we have a chipboard floor in one area that has been soaked many times in disinfectant etc, and that has faired much better - and that one has lasted 3 years.

[Guest TAMMY_1]

IF YOU USE EXTERNAL PLYWOOD THE WATER AFFECTS IT LESS BECAUSE IT IS MADE TO WITHSTAND SOME WATER, FAR BETTER MORE EXPENSIVE THOUGH BUT YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR

[stevebelbin]

Meant to say my floor always has a covering of easi-bed or belgium chippings so they are never scraped. And my water fountains are placed on top of milk crates which are perfect for the job. Fully recommend insulation to prevent damp. And also recommend it in the roof to prevent heat loss :-).

[THE FIFER]

IF U ARE GOING TO USE PLYWOOD FOR OUTSIDE OR FLOORS U SHOULD GE "MARINE PLY"

[Guest TAMMY_1]

IF U ARE GOING TO USE PLYWOOD FOR OUTSIDE OR FLOORS U SHOULD GE "MARINE PLY"

 

THATS WHAT I MEANT TO SAY   EXTERNAL PLY/MARINE PLY

 

 

off course bruno meant ",offensive" key board sticking

[jimmy white]

IF YOU USE EXTERNAL PLYWOOD THE WATER AFFECTS IT LESS BECAUSE IT IS MADE TO WITHSTAND SOME WATER, FAR BETTER MORE EXPENSIVE THOUGH BUT YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR

 

tammy fifer said " marine ply" theres a big differance from external ply,,,,and marine ply,

[ALF]

MINES IS MADE OF WOOD ;D ;D ;D ;D

[pouw22]

Hi Aarden if im the guy your talking about,what i ment was that the quality of the ply put down by my loft manufacturer was inferior hence pulling up when scraped,if top quality w,p,b or marine is used no problem with scraping or water spillage.the best floor ive ever had was one inch ply covered in a coating,its used for wagon floors and is smooth as glass one side and textured on the other its super , but at about £60,00 a sheet a tad expensive but will last forever.we had an offcut out side in all weathers for six years and it was still in good order.cheers phil.

[jimmy white]

yes pouw22  i agree with you , i had put a cheaper exteriar ply round the eaves of my house  and it lasted no time atall, i then had to re do the job with expensive marine ply , and that has withstood the weather also for the 6 years ive been in this house.

[ACE LOFTS]

i think ply is the best wood u can lay on floors,

 

BUT there is 1 disadvantage to it, when u scrap out and if your scrapper is sharp then it starts peeling the shhets of ply if u no what i mean.

 

but if that bothers u then use chip board iv got this down in my young bird loft.

[pouw22]

Jimmy i used to be a signwriter and had to supply signs that would do the job ie last a number of years and although they where painted or varnished only the very best ply would withstand the weather,in the end you get what you pay for ,the cheaper ply always blew out after a few years ragardless of how many coats of paint it had.phil.

[aarden]

hiya phil

i wasn't being disrepectfull towards your loft i was just after wat was best to use on loft floors,i was after other members thoughts.

i was very impressed by your set up and the quality of the birds,i wished i could have the length of lofts you have and still maintain high standards of hygiene.

hope i havent affended you

wayne

[Guest]

Aplogies for tidy-up in three posts. As last post says, the object is to maintain respect / remain respectful of all members / members views irrespective of your personal opinions or feelings.

 

On this thread: have only direct experience of two types of floor, wood and concrete. Saw marine ply yonks ago when McQuire Bros., Larkhall built their new loft out of 8' x 4' boards; their (then) loft manager's scraper was a shovel and didn't seem to do the floor any harm.

 

Surprise on the concrete front though - only one tiny part of mine is exposed. Birds droppings seem to corrode it???????

 

 

[Chatrace]

They make a Ply with one side smooth hard finish, It is 3/4 off and inch thick and costs like the dickins,but it lasts like iron. I have my waters up on a platform to keep the spillage from attacking the floor

[aarden]

what??????????????????????

[jimmy_bulger]

try useing marine ply far eastern red hardwood type it will out live you.

jimmy.

[Roland]

Like ply for the sides... prefer a chip board for floors, the main thing being that it breathes. Secondarily I rewcommend a tray where you place the water fountain... and take the water away anyway when they have runken. Water I believe should only be given when thay want to drink and not left around. A baking tray works a trreat to stop wet on the floor. Chip board is great also for scraping.

If Bee's wax is rubbed in well, the water never gets to the wood. You can swab it out is you so desire as it is water proof.

[Guest shadow]

The floor of my loft is damproofed chipboard and has been down 20 years without any problems

[pouw22]

Hi Aarden no way have you offended me in any way just read post and wanted to state that it was the quality of the ply used that makes the difference,not even the thickness, if its thin but has a good veneer it will last ,but if thick and poor quality hardboard would last longer.a mate of mine has covered his poor ply floor with fibreglass sheets works very well and hygenic,a lot of fanciers now use grills/or some form of litter and the floor doesnt come in for so much battering . one  tip is if you are going to scrape out punch the nail heads down. cheers phil.