Guest bristolkev Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 good program on bbc2 at 8.00 pm tonight called natural world all about the eagle owl ;D ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockinrick Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 excellent program , watched it til end , thought very good program . ;D ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Caught this reminder @ 8:00pm Glad I did because I thought it a repeat of last year's programme ... it wasn't, it was an update. For Jummy White and others who emailed everybody and their uncle last year on this bird ... welcome news ... a victory ... an announcement at the end of the programme saying that contrary to the Tom Twits that told us these birds have no legal prptection ... wrong, full EU Wild Bird Act protection; even if they take any other 'protected' raptor, if they can survive here, they stay, unmolested. ;D ;D ;D ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangster Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 i believe they are a fearsome preditor and will take other preditors as well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Caught this reminder @ 8:00pm Glad I did because I thought it a repeat of last year's programme ... it wasn't, it was an update. For Jummy White and others who emailed everybody and their uncle last year on this bird ... welcome news ... a victory ... an announcement at the end of the programme saying that contrary to the Tom Twits that told us these birds have no legal prptection ... wrong, full EU Wild Bird Act protection; even if they take any other 'protected' raptor, if they can survive here, they stay, unmolested. ;D ;D ;D ;D it was a repeat bruno, exact same one as before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Memory seems to be failing me Tammy, first saw the 'R' in TV guide and as posted reckoned a repeat of last year. Watched it and yes I did recognise lots of bits & pieces from the original but there seemed to be new info in there too: the numbers of rabbits taken by the pair between dusk & midnight (6); the numbers of buzzards taken per bird in ? (europe) country (6?). Also mentioned 'researcher' a year on had uncovered ... and the bit that really pricked up my ears was the voice-over at the end saying 'new EU legislation had been brought in since BTO & RSPB interviews were recorded which gives this species full protection'. This wasn't part of the original broadcast last year, because members were up in arms about the fact that these people said the bird wasn't native, wasn't welcome and people could go out there and shoot them, and wouldn't be breaking any law. There was a lot of emails from members on that one, check out the birds of prey thread. http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/blah/m-1127470176/s-100/ which I note was started way back in November 2005 when the programme was first shown. Maybe explains things Tammy, was there another one shown sometime in 2006? If so missed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 GREAT PROGRAMME WATCHED IT AFTER DAFTY PHONED ME AND TOLD ME IT WAS ON ;D ;D ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Memory seems to be failing me Tammy, first saw the 'R' in TV guide and as posted reckoned a repeat of last year. Watched it and yes I did recognise lots of bits & pieces from the original but there seemed to be new info in there too: the numbers of rabbits taken by the pair between dusk & midnight (6); the numbers of buzzards taken per bird in ? (europe) country (6?). Also mentioned 'researcher' a year on had uncovered ... and the bit that really pricked up my ears was the voice-over at the end saying 'new EU legislation had been brought in since BTO & RSPB interviews were recorded which gives this species full protection'. This wasn't part of the original broadcast last year, because members were up in arms about the fact that these people said the bird wasn't native, wasn't welcome and people could go out there and shoot them, and wouldn't be breaking any law. There was a lot of emails from members on that one, check out the birds of prey thread. http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/blah/m-1127470176/s-100/ which I note was started way back in November 2005 when the programme was first shown. Maybe explains things Tammy, was there another one shown sometime in 2006? If so missed that. have to disagree with you bruno. was identical to the one last year and also the voiceover was on at the end of the last one shown last year, i taped it last year , and last night ,and checked again identical in every way including voiceover at the end saying it was a protected species Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hjaltland Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I saw the latter part of this program, serious looking bird. I saw one in a falconery in Ireland last September. Do these take pigeons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangster Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 these take everything i believe.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Yep top predator, but remember this is an owl, starts hunting around dusk or failing light, so reckon might be wrong time of day to be a major threat to racing pigeons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest slugmonkey Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 there have been many reports of people finding owls in their lofts in the mornings after they were trapped in there after a night of feeding on pigeons I also know a fancier that got bit by a small EXTREMELY rare ground dwelling owl one morning when he went to reach into a nest box and didnt realize it was there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 yer bun on befor its brilliant i want them owls to come to the south west and kill the hawks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy white Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Yep top predator, but remember this is an owl, starts hunting around dusk or failing light, so reckon might be wrong time of day to be a major threat to racing pigeons? if there were a pair of eagle owls in every quarry in brittain ,, there would be far less perigrines ,,,,,,,they eat them, if near them, at dusk, when roosting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy white Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 wouldnt take a racing pigeon,, unless it roosted in same vicinity ,i,e rocks etc ,, certaily couldnt catch one in flight, , same as perigrine , but perigrine tends to have the same habitat, the rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank-123 Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 this is where the rrpa and the shu should put some money into buy some eagle owls maybe even things up a bit maybe have a whip round at Blackpool we could buy a few ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Yep top predator, but remember this is an owl, starts hunting around dusk or failing light, so reckon might be wrong time of day to be a major threat to racing pigeons? Not quite true, like the Barn Owl etc. hunts in day time big time. That's why the Huntmens use them for the Fox'es cornered and trapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bristolkev Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 i hope a couple of pairs arrive down in the avon gorge in bristol,sort out those couple of pairs percy`s living there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 But regardless what Bruno or any one else says... The RSPB are shifting them and doing utmost not to let them stay, let alone breed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev01293 Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 are wild eagle owls actually breeding in britain at the moment ? does anyone know approx how many are already here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 But regardless what Bruno or any one else says... The RSPB are shifting them and doing utmost not to let them stay, let alone breed. If this is the case Roland, and you or others can provide definite proof of that, then let us have it. We constantly complain that we are powerless against these people. They are (1) not above the Law ... and (2) as Churchill said 'you can fool some of the people some of the time'. If we can publicly show duplicity and double standards on their part towards this protected raptor species, we can use this to hurt them where it matters most .. credibility and support and cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 are wild eagle owls actually breeding in britain at the moment ? does anyone know approx how many are already here ? yes they are breeding here but dunno how many active pairs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Why not start a breeding station for the Eagle Owls,and release the young by the dozen as the RSPB have been doing for years in areas that are over run with sparrow and perigrine just like they do with the hawks bred in their breeding stations,also did i hear in this program the RSPB moan about the Corn Crake and the damage it could do to exsisting numbers?,no mention of the damage done by other predetors?two faced,dictators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 I've tried a search on breeding numbers and distribution. Can't turn up anything new other than 'maybe' a programme in Scotland in this article, and Owls hunting & prey included:- The Eurasian Eagle Owl was once resident in the UK, but was hunted to extinction during the late 19th century (NOTE - the RSPB does question this view & says that the evidence is very slim.). This was done mainly by gamekeepers & farmers, concerned on them preying on their livestock. Unlike many other birds of prey, their was some justification to their fears, the owls can take large prey, but it is unlikely that they could do enough to warrant hunting them to extinction. It has also been suggested that other reasons for hunting them were for stuffing as ornaments & for the fashion trade, the long feathers being in particular demand to adorn hats. There are reports of some Eagle Owls living in the wild in the UK, it is most likely that these birds are escaped or (illegally) released captive birds, rather than migrants. In particular, a pair have been nesting & breeding since 1997 years on MOD property on the North Yorkshire moors, they are thought to have successfully reared over 20 young. (I have also seen one reference to a small reintroduction programme in the UK, possibly Scotland, but haven't been able to find any details). The Eurasian Eagle Owl hunts predominantly at dusk & into the early night. They have occassionally been found sharing territories with Golden Eagles, with the eagles hunting during the day & the owls at night. They are not prepared to live peacefully with all birds of prey though, in particular goshawks. They have also been found to drive away Peregrines from near to their nesting sites. They have been reported as regularly preying on buzzards, goshawks, gyrfalcons, Tawny Owls, Long-Eared Owls & other small birds of prey, including their young. While other birds, such as ducks, pheasants, pigeons & crows, may be taken (often in flight), their main prey is mammals. They are able to catch prey spreading a large range of sizes, from mice & voles, through rabbits & hares, up to foxes, young sheep & roe deer. They are able to hunt in woods & forests, but due to the large size, especially the wingspan, they prefer more open spaces. Full article (actually from Raptor Foundation Website) :- http://www.pauldfrost.co.uk/eeagleowl.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 My mates father - in - law has a pair. He uses them for the 'Kill' in fox hunting. But I personally reckon that's a waste of ime. But by golly they are big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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