Guest Silverwings Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 recently aquired two show racers one is a light opal or silver cheq cock the other is slightly opal dark cheq , just getting an interest in show birds and dont know much about them , will pairing the two weaken the depth of colour in the ofspring ?...............ray
VMS Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 Don't know much about show racers myself mate,drop Nogin a pm.He is a bit of an authority on show racers,and am sure will help you with any querries that you might have. ;D
showman Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 Any chance of pics to let us see colours ?
Guest lenwadebob Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 pjc on this forum is your man
Guest lenwadebob Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 PJC knows his stuff :) SNAP
Guest bigbok Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 if thewy are opal depends on whether their dominant or recessive i think that show racers are recessive opal if so yo ushould be fine but if their dom opal they need splitting due to genetic issiues (dead young) been the main issue but get some photos up show racer breeders are not that hot on colours we will be able to tell ya better from a photo
Guest Silverwings Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 thanks lads when my kids get out of bed will get them to upload a couple of photos of them......................ray
Taylorsloft Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 SNAP cold wee could start a new word game
Guest Silverwings Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 photos of the two show racers ,sorry they are a bit scruffy been out in the rain and snow today.........ray
nogin Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 Don't know much about show racers myself mate,drop Nogin a pm.He is a bit of an authority on show racers,and am sure will help you with any querries that you might have. ;D I SEE YOU'VE GOT THAT BIG GUB OF YOUR'S GOING AGAIN :X
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 pjc on this forum is your man yep and Chrissy is your knowledgeable show racer lady on here
Guest lenwadebob Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 yep and Chrissy is your knowledgeable show racer lady on here Yea I agree 100% Tam ;)
owen101 Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 i can send out a show racer dvd to you if it would be any help to you mate
Guest beautyhomer Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 yep and Chrissy is your knowledgeable show racer lady on here Thought Chrissy was no longer a member.She is shown as a guest user now
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 Thought Chrissy was no longer a member.She is shown as a guest user now Hi Andrew, Chrissy is still an active member on the site
Guest beautyhomer Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 Hi Andrew, Chrissy is still an active member on the site my mistake,see she has re-registered since she last sent me a pm.It is her old account that I have seen in my pm's
Guest portmuffins Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 these look to me to be mosiac pic one and pic 2 looks like mosaic chequer but should do well as a pair pic 2 been breed from a dark chequer I keep show racers big john N.Ireland
pjc Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 I like the cock but wouldn't entertain a hen like that with no laceing.
Guest Silverwings Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 photo of the blue show racer..........ray
Matt D. Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 Well my best guess is this. They both show some lightening of the entire body so theres something like dilute or milky lightening everything up. I dont think (genetically) either are recessive blue phase opal. They are for sure not dom opal or recessive red phase opal. If you could take pictures of their tails fanned out we could see this for sure. All recessive opals (red and blue phase) have a webbing pattern on their tail bars. They are both t-patter chequers. I suspect the top bird to be a sooty or as us racers call pencil or dapple. The bottom one seems to be just a t-pattern check with something lightening the color. If you mate these two together You will get all babies that are t-checkers like those unless they are both carrying a less dominant pattern gene (barless, bar, light check, dark check). All their babies will have a lightening of the body like that and if that top bird is split for sooty then half their babies will have sooty. If that top bird is homozygous (carrying two genes) for sooty, all there babies will be sooty.
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