mookie Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 whats your opinion on top flyers in small clubs filling their T3s takin all pos three is enought i think.no wonder theirs no one left and clubs are folding
Wiley Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 a good fancier can ruin a club,by timing in loads of pigeons,but if there there its there right to time them in, some clubs have a rule for example first 4 on the clock go to club the rest go to the federation.
Guest Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 after reading the clock i'd say there's your 4 thimbles
Guest CS Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 a good fancier can ruin a club,by timing in loads of pigeons,but if there there its there right to time them in, some clubs have a rule for example first 4 on the clock go to club the rest go to the federation. Agreed with you, mate.
Roland Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 Most wouldn't want the 'Aye but I still had another ten I could have clocked in if allowed before your first one'! ET will see just that. All in and counting. Saw a fancier clock in 69 of 70 odd and say... 'I long for the day when I can clock all 70 odd in before anyone else gets one in... soon will I reckon. Know another that sent 200 odd every week... Love him in our club, bring the cost of birdage down no end. And as ET is here, then one will have to buy in also, or pay the price every other race... Still enough on that lol!
Ronnie Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 If your prepared to let them pay for the birds then be prepared to let them clock them.If the club was to limit the amount of birds you could clock they should limit the amount of birds you can enter.I wouldnt want a false position with my birds.
Wiley Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 If your prepared to let them pay for the birds then be prepared to let them clock them.If the club was to limit the amount of birds you could clock they should limit the amount of birds you can enter.I wouldnt want a false position with my birds. bang on!
whiteflight Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 Lets say a club has a 2 bird limit but as many in the Fed, now i wouldn't want a 3rd place prize if the fancier who takes 1st & 2nd had another 2 or 3 pigeons infront of me thats not justice to the pigeon that should rightly be 3rd, but then again its just my own opinion
THE FIFER Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 If your prepared to let them pay for the birds then be prepared to let them clock them.If the club was to limit the amount of birds you could clock they should limit the amount of birds you can enter.I wouldnt want a false position with my birds. i agree with that ronnie, i would not like a place knowing there was ex amount of birds beating it, what good is that, the only way would be to limit the entries, certainly not the birds in the clock, if they are in the race they are entitled to their winning places,
rockinrick Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 personally i think 4 birds and 4 birds only
PIGEON_MAN Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 Saw a fancier clock in 69 of 70 odd and say... 'I long for the day when I can clock all 70 odd in before anyone else gets one in... soon will I reckon.The day that happens all the rest of the members may as well pack in if they cant clock in before the guy as clocked in 70.
PIGEON_MAN Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 Fanciers who have said,First 4 in the club the rest in the fed,can you honestly say that you would accept a position in the club when you know that there are possibley say 10 birds home with better velocities than yours.
Wiley Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 Fanciers who have said,First 4 in the club the rest in the fed,can you honestly say that you would accept a position in the club when you know that there are possibley say 10 birds home with better velocities than yours. nah i couldnt, i gave it as an example of what i know some clubs do, but if someone had 10 birds before me on the clock i wouldnt want to be placed in 5th place knowing that they had another 6 there to beat me. If i had 6 birds come together, id put all 6 on the clock hoping to take as many positions in club, and federation as possible.
REDCHEQHEN Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 I've only got 6 thimbles and 5 of them are cracked :'( :'( :'( :'(
Wiley Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 I've only got 6 thimbles and 5 of them are cracked :'( :'( :'( :'( there the lucky ones
Beanz Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 I only ever take 4 thimbles out with me, so I can only clock 4 which I don't always do anyway, but if you accept their entry fees whether you like it or not they are entitled to clock them all as they pay for them, alright it may not be the best thing to do because as said this is how clubs disband but in the long run they are cutting their own throats because there will be no clubs to fly in or they will be refused membership in clubs once their own clubs disband and if they can't see this they are blind and as stated I would not want to be positions that my birds have not won fair and square.
schouwman71 Posted May 26, 2007 Report Posted May 26, 2007 if your birds are good enouth they will beat 10,000 in a race,a small team flyer( a good one ) will beat the big boys 8-10 times,you can concentrate on them better,they will split and get away from the pack,ive sent 1-2 pigeons on many occasions and have been 1st & 2nd on most occasions plus having the big flyers giving up halfway through the season because they carnt win with a small team,good luck 2007
Guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Posted May 26, 2007 as some one once said you takes the money you pay the price. i only race a small team. if we had anyone in our club who kept takin the lot it would only make me more determined to beat him or her.
Guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 One of the best fliers in the UNC a few years ago was Neville Daley. He only had a small team of 12 to 15 widowhood cocks if I remember rightly, and was as good a competitor as there has been in the UNC. Quality will always beat quantity. I don't agree with limiting the timers as you would create a false result! How would you like to buy a pigeon with 2 or 3 prizes, that shouldn't have had any prizes at all??
mark Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 you can only win a 1st prize with one pigeon ask someone who came 2nd in all the other races more than lightly no one can remember. multiple timings are killing the sport for new starters and novices. only my opinion though.
Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 theres people in all clubs that fill the clock up some clubs in the combine only accept the first three for the club but the rest do get put on the fed and combine sheet
Guest paulrstokes Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 Good Subject In our club people time in as many as they want, these are all sent to the fed. We have a gentlemans agreement however that for the club we clock three only and a pooler. We even spread things around with prizemoney, foir example if we pay £20.00 per race then that is £2.00 per position for the first 10 places. We just want everyone to get something if only a little back, if a new fancier was just starting and paying e.g £20.00 per week to send 10-15 birds, and was getting Mr mob flyer banging 15-20 in the clock before him you would be lucky to keep him for 2 seasons. We did have a guy once who raced 12 widow cocks (very well) he would time in 2 and then his last back, amazing how many times he took the first three, and as he admitted himself, he did not want to take all 10 places because that would soon cause dislike, but by timing his last as his third he knew in his own mind how good his birds were.
frank-123 Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 got to say if my birds and me were good enough they would be in the clock
jim Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 i would not like to think im getting positions because a good flyer was limetd to clock three birds if he has six before me good luck to him its not helping the lesser flyer getting falser positions, dose not encorages them to get better birds. jim
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