Sealing ETS pads

[Pompey Mick]

My Federation,The Solent Fed, has decided to place itself above the RPRA and insist that pads must be sealed in position within the loft. Should this ruling remain can anyone give me some ideas how you can securely fix a seal from a pad to a wooden loft.

[Guest stevie-b]

all ets pads must have 2 seals on it my pads are screwed to the stall traps and i have drilled two additional holes in each then tied with string and sealed same way as an stb is sealed and seal no,s recorded

[sapper756]

All ETS pads in Scotland must have 2 seals attached, and ten seal numbers recorded by club secretary, I don,t see any problem in doing this, and it aint hard to do

[PIGEON_MAN]

Mick your fed are completely out of order they cannot go above a RPRA ruling,see last weeks BHW page 6.

[Pompey Mick]

My thoughts exactly Tony, but they have diqualified several fanciers for just this reason.

[Chatrace]

well you better get the company to cast 2 holes in the pads ,because if you break the seal and moisture gets in ,your pad is junk and if you send it back and it has a hole in it . you may be able to use one of the hold down holes instead of the screw and drill the hile in the board it is sitting on

[Chatrace]

After thinking a bit what is the use unless you can seal the pad to the harness as all one needs to do is just buy another pad and plug it in and put it anywhere ya want, Naa ,no one would buy 2 pads :-)

[HOMER49]

Hi

Stupid rule sealing ETS pads

Unless the 9 pin connection to the clock is sealed there is nothing to prevent you from connecting clock to another pad or pads

I did this for scanning my rings as my pads are sealed and inaccessible

As far as Iam aware the clock does NOT record the serial numbers of the pads

nor does anyone else

RPRA have got it right no seals on pads

Cheers

Homer 49

[peterpau]

So we need to seal the pads in place do we. Talk about shooting youself in the foot. One experienced fancier with ets could have 20 or 30 on the drop while your novice waits for his first. I would have thought a top flyer would at most clock 10 and with ets would remove the pads, may be not now though.

[Chatrace]

I only clock till I get my $5 bird in the pools all the rest are all pooled the same. we can only win 3 parts of any pool anyway so you could clock 100 and still only get 3 spots in the pools. The New flyer still can win as long as the pool $ lasts. most often it goes 12 spots in each bracket Dime, quarter. half, dollar. 5, 10

[sapper756]

So we need to seal the pads in place do we. Talk about shooting youself in the foot. One experienced fancier with ets could have 20 or 30 on the drop while your novice waits for his first. I would have thought a top flyer would at most clock 10 and with ets would remove the pads, may be not now though.

 

You remove the clock from the base station :-/

[peterpau]

Thanks for that Sapper. Don't have ets and don't feel the need for another new clock.

[Guest]

Unikon pad has a serial number and this is recorded when the pad is sealed in place, together with the seal number. Fancier keeps a copy of document, Fed keeps the original.

 

Think the Unikon has 6 pre-drilled holes thro base for screw fixing inside the loft. Fairly lightweight and doesn't need 6 screws, use one of them to thread a string loop thro - loop it round anything solid and immovable inside the loft, and seal it.

[HOMER49]

Unikon pad has a serial number and this is recorded when the pad is sealed in place, together with the seal number. Fancier keeps a copy of document, Fed keeps the original.

 

Think the Unikon has 6 pre-drilled holes thro base for screw fixing inside the loft. Fairly lightweight and doesn't need 6 screws, use one of them to thread a string loop thro - loop it round anything solid and immovable inside the loft, and seal it.

Hi bruno

We have not been instructed by anyone to record pad serial numbers

But my question is Does the clock record the pad serial number that the bird was timed in on?

If you have the UNIKON champ the loft base station is the clock that you take to clubhouse unless you purchase the POCKET clock as an extra

So the base station cannot be sealed

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

[Guest]

Hi bruno

We have not been instructed by anyone to record pad serial numbers

But my question is Does the clock record the pad serial number that the bird was timed in on?

If you have the UNIKON champ the loft base station is the clock that you take to clubhouse unless you purchase the POCKET clock as an extra

So the base station cannot be sealed

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

The clock when switched on detects the number of pads attached to it. I assume it allocates a number to each pad, don't know if that would be the serial number, but logically speaking would expect it to be.

 

It is not the base station that is sealed and it can be placed anywhere - in the summer house if you want. It is the pad that is sealed, and it must be inside the loft.

 

[PIGEON_MAN]

My thoughts exactly Tony, but they have diqualified several fanciers for just this reason.

 

I would tell these fanciers to strongly object to being disqualifield and take the Fed to the region if necessary because they are most deffinatly wrong.

[PIGEON_MAN]

 

The clock when switched on detects the number of pads attached to it. I assume it allocates a number to each pad, don't know if that would be the serial number, but logically speaking would expect it to be.

 

Just checked on the members race arrival sheets for today nowhere does it record the serial number of the pad or pads on UNIKON or BRICON.

[doos r us]

is it not the case in belgium after ets clocking they have to manual clock with rubber within 10 min if true makes a mockery of having ets if you cant be at loft is this the case

[Ronnie]

Ive not got Ets but cant see a problem with having to seal a pad in place.You have to seal a clock why not an ets pad?

[doos r us]

Ive not got Ets but cant see a problem with having to seal a pad in place.You have to seal a clock why not an ets pad?

 

its sealed in place so it cant be moved outside loft etc

[GREENGRASS]

if my memory serves me right the only system to record the pad serial no is the tipes there was a demonstration in the moodiesburn hotel and the serial number was recorded for each pad a bird was timed with for security reasons i was told.

[PIGEON_MAN]

Ive not got Ets but cant see a problem with having to seal a pad in place.You have to seal a clock why not an ets pad?

 

There would be no problem to do it but the RPRA says it doesn,t have to be done,but it seems that some Feds.are going against RPRA ruling which is wrong.

[PIGEON_MAN]

is it not the case in belgium after ets clocking they have to manual clock with rubber within 10 min if true makes a mockery of having ets if you cant be at loft is this the case

 

I believe this was explained before by Expat.it,s something to do with the International Races i think.

[NANCYVIEWLOFTS]

dont know anything about the rules of ets but could you not loop thightly the cable leading to the pads with 2 plastic cable ties looped together then seal the cable to the loft

this way you would not damage the pads and could even remove the pads from the loft until you need it  so as to keep it dust free

just a thought

[Pompey Mick]

This is the minute issued by the Solent Fed Committee, the also want all ring numbers as well. Good of them to accept ETS  even though they had no choice.

 

The Federation will accept ETS, providing clubs

abide by the following working minute from the

committee.

All ETS antenna must be sealed within the loft and all

cable connections with a RPRA seal by the club

officials and all seals must be recorded & sent, along

with the members name and loft number to the

Secretary of the Solent South Road Federation before

the first young Bird race.

All members using the ETS system must send to the

Solent South Road Federation Secretary a list of all

pigeon ring numbers and the e-ring numbers along

with the members name and loft number.

This is only a minute and must be incorporated into the Federation rulebook for

2008.