yeast_infections in pigeons

[Guest karl adams]

what causes yeast_infections in pigeons and a gray mould on droppings

[REDCHEQHEN]

I have been told - keeping your corn in plastic bins causes it to 'sweat' and release moisture

 

wipe plastic bin with disinfectant each time you put more corn in (I have some disinfectant wipes)

 

I don't however know if this is true or not

 

mould on droppings - is again due to moisture - and not cleaning out regularly enough

 

 

 

[Guest TAMMY_1]

I have been told - keeping your corn in plastic bins causes it to 'sweat' and release moisture

wipe plastic bin with disinfectant each time you put more corn in (I have some disinfectant wipes)

 

I don't however know if this is true or not

 

mould on droppings - is again due to moisture - and not cleaning out regularly enough

 

 

 

 

I keep all my pigeon food in plastic bins in the shed and have never found it to cause any moisture problems .

 

[chickadee]

We too keep all our seed in plastic bins in a hut and it doesn't cause any moisture problems for us either.

[Guest TAMMY_1]

We too keep all our seed in plastic bins in a hut and it doesn't cause any moisture problems for us either.

 

Have been doing it this way for last 9 years and never had any problems at all in any type of weather conditions, be it hot or cold, well it is mostly cold here anyway.  :-/ :-/ ;D

[sapper756]

Have always kept feeding in plastic bins, no problems. A clubmate however had trouble with his youngsters failing to feather, it was traced back to the alluminium bins he was keeping his feed in. :-/

[ALF]

Plastic bins for me aswell and never had any problems either 8)

[Guest IB]

I think you are advised to keep the feed in bins? My first one was a galvanised bin with sliding lid, surplus to requirements at the local Co-op which I bought from them for a couple of quid I think. I've plastic ones now, and have never had any bother, though when they are empty and before refilling I do wash down the inside with a cloth dampened with disinfectant ;

 

On the yeast question, yeast is reckoned to come off the food - I think its normal for anything grown in the ground? - and the dust that collects on the bin sides is reckoned to be that yeast. But the yeast infection (overgrowth) is reckoned to be caused by antibiotic use. Some bacteria produce substances which keep other bacteria and yeasts in balance (in check); when they are wiped out, there's both 'a gap' and an imbalance which allows yeasts to flourish.

 

On the mouldy droppings question : Moulds and fungus reproduce by spores - microscopic and millions of them. They settle and develop on any organic decomposing matter thats damp / has moisture. I think the white hairy one on droppings is Asperigillus (spelling). Dangerous from the spore point of view: millions of them for you and the birds to breath in - and infect your lungs, and from there, invade the rest of the body.

[Guest TAMMY_1]

I think you are advised to keep the feed in bins? My first one was a galvanised bin with sliding lid, surplus to requirements at the local Co-op which I bought from them for a couple of quid I think. I've plastic ones now, and have never had any bother, though when they are empty and before refilling I do wash down the inside with a cloth dampened with disinfectant ;

 

On the yeast question, yeast is reckoned to come off the food - I think its normal for anything grown in the ground? - and the dust that collects on the bin sides is reckoned to be that yeast. But the yeast infection (overgrowth) is reckoned to be caused by antibiotic use. Some bacteria produce substances which keep other bacteria and yeasts in balance (in check); when they are wiped out, there's both 'a gap' and an imbalance which allows yeasts to flourish.

 

On the mouldy droppings question : Moulds and fungus reproduce by spores - microscopic and millions of them. They settle and develop on any organic decomposing matter thats damp / has moisture. I think the white hairy one on droppings is Asperigillus (spelling). Dangerous from the spore point of view: millions of them for you and the birds to breath in - and infect your lungs, and from there, invade the rest of the body.

 

A bit more on the highlighted problem.

 

Aspergillus is a fungus whose spores are present in the air we breathe, but do not normally cause illness. However an individual with a weakened immune status may be susceptible to aspergillus infection.

 

Aspergillosis is a group of diseases which can result from aspergillus infection and includes invasive aspergillosis, ABPA and aspergilloma. Some asthma patients with very severe asthma may also be sensitised to fungi like aspergillus (SAFS).

 

There is a section devoted to the needs of patients, friends and family suffering from the effects of Aspergillosis. Aspergillosis may affect patients whose immune system may be compromised - including those with Leukaemia, Chemotherapy patients or those on steroids, Transplant patients, Cystic fibrosis, HIV or AIDS, Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), Chronic granulomatous disease (CGD), Severe asthma with fungal sensitivity (SAFS) and many others.

 

Sources of increased risk include - dirty air conditioning units, compost heaps and damp or flood- damaged housing, all of which can yield higher numbers of aspergillus spores.

Aspergillus does not solely affect humans; birds and animals can also develop aspergillosis, and some plant diseases and food spoilage may be due to aspergillus infection.

 

 

 

 

[ch pied]

I think you are advised to keep the feed in bins? My first one was a galvanised bin with sliding lid, surplus to requirements at the local Co-op which I bought from them for a couple of quid I think. I've plastic ones now, and have never had any bother, though when they are empty and before refilling I do wash down the inside with a cloth dampened with disinfectant ;

 

On the yeast question, yeast is reckoned to come off the food - I think its normal for anything grown in the ground? - and the dust that collects on the bin sides is reckoned to be that yeast. But the yeast infection (overgrowth) is reckoned to be caused by antibiotic use. Some bacteria produce substances which keep other bacteria and yeasts in balance (in check); when they are wiped out, there's both 'a gap' and an imbalance which allows yeasts to flourish.

 

On the mouldy droppings question : Moulds and fungus reproduce by spores - microscopic and millions of them. They settle and develop on any organic decomposing matter thats damp / has moisture. I think the white hairy one on droppings is Asperigillus (spelling). Dangerous from the spore point of view: millions of them for you and the birds to breath in - and infect your lungs, and from there, invade the rest of the body.

have to agree , likely suspect's , poor ventalation , high loft humidity / damp atmosphere , perfect for fungle spores

 

 

[doo.racer]

Be carefull with maize. If grain has to be left in the open, say in transit on a ship, the maize is normally picked for this as it does not show deterioration as much as other grains. It still goes off though and can cause this problem. Thankfully the birds are sorted when a little vinegar is added to the water.

[Guest j.bamling]

1 Big factor in having a Fungel infection is over treating with antibiotics

[Lennut Tar]

have to agree , likely suspect's , poor ventalation , high loft humidity / damp atmosphere , perfect for fungle spores

 

 

Interesting topic & comments etc !!!!!!!. All my bins are wood (1500lb of feed etc) with vents in them under the house & I'm a great believer in using Gentian Violet Crystals as such in the wet weather here. Both on the feed & in the water etc. My view is, that it is very good if you just  happen to have a fungal problem, which is caused by unclean lofts, feed or the weather at times, for what I have found.

Enjoy.

 

 

[Guest slugmonkey]

Give birds some yogurt and probiotics if you are growing mold in loft you have a ventilation problem