PARATYPHUS VACINATING

[BANDIT]

WHAT ARE THE MEMBERS VIEWS ON TREATING FOR PARATYPHUS,VACINATE OR MEDICATE, LIVE OR DEAD VACINE, HOW DOES IT AFFECT THE BIRDS, IVE HEARD SOME HORROR STORIES AND WOULD WELCOME YOUR VIEWS THANKS ALL BANDIT

[harky]

WHAT ARE THE MEMBERS VIEWS ON TREATING FOR PARATYPHUS,VACINATE OR MEDICATE, LIVE OR DEAD VACINE, HOW DOES IT AFFECT THE BIRDS, IVE HEARD SOME HORROR STORIES AND WOULD WELCOME YOUR VIEWS THANKS ALL BANDIT

 

would like to here your horror stories

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

would like to here your horror stories

 

you are in them  

[john niko]

i vacinated my young birds last year 4 the first time i put them on the batrol 4 ten days first then vacinated them i was told that the vacine gives them paratyphus i dont now how true that was but the birds looked live sh** 4 days after doin them probobley will never use it again.

[BANDIT]

Thanks to the few members that replied,maybe very few are treating for paratyphus or vacinating either. come on fanciers let us know is it a secret or what, im told 95% of lofts have it but by the responce that cant be right  bandit

[Guest cloudview]

if it ain,t broke  it does,nt need fixing comes to mind ,

was talking earlier on well mid summer really to atop fancier his respose was that it is hit and miss  seing as ther are so many strains , how do you know your treating for right one

[ALF]

I vaccinated my y/b's for paratyphoid for the 1st time last year and won 2 y/b races but this year i decided i was'nt treating the y/b's for anything at all ( apart from the paramyxo jag  )until the week before our y/b duplication race when i treated them for canker on the sunday and smoke bombed them on the monday that's all they have had since they were born and this year i won 3 y/b races and the y/b ave ...so would i jag for paratyphoid again? i'm not sure but never say never although it certainly never done them any harm not doing them for paratyphoid this year that's for sure

 

Alan

[Guest]

i had paratipoid 3 years ago. had to dispose of my best stock hens

was told about parastop so tried it

havent had a problem since

i treat twice a year for 8 days,

after racing finishes and before pairing up

 

dave

[DUBLINFLYER]

i wouldn't vacinate against it that's for sure, i'd use a good soluble in the water or on the food

[Chairman]

There are two vaccinations we are considering here, one is against PMV Paramyxo Virus, and the second is a vaccination against

Paratyphoid.PMV is a VIRUS and can be very nasty if you happen to get caught out with it. Paratyphoid is a bacterial infection of which

there was avery good in depth thread posted on here recently. Paratyphoid is the silent enemy in our lofts, according to the pigeon vet

Henk De Weerdt over 93% of the WORLD pigeon stock is infected with this infection.It is very difficult to eradicate out of the hen birds

because it lays dorment high up in the birds body and infects the ovaries, so every egg the hen bird lays is in fact another generation of

paratyphoid.Cock birds are easily treated because it is shedding sperm all the time.Whether you decide to vaccinate or not that entirely

is the descision of the fancier, but what I will say is that those who dont there birds are at a high risk of being contaminated in the race

panniers and they become carriers within their own lofts, you cannot see they have it they are usually in excellant condition, its is when

that bird breaks into the big moult you'll usually see a bird that cant make it up to its perch or nestbox, you think its banged itself in the

loft, another bird may have the thick lump swelling on the wing joint or the more popular "Protein Boils or Blood Blisters"? Sorry lads the

birds have paratyphoid, they require treating then vaccinating to clear it out of the loft, some of the birds in the same loft or compartment

look like pictures well they have it too, they are carriers too. Unfortunately more and more lofts are becoming victims of this infection but

if you have it, it has no bearing on you or your management systems.I vaccinated my own birds again today before pairing up next month.

[DUBLINFLYER]

how many strains of paratyphoid are there? and how many strains do we inject into the birds? i believe there's something like 1500 strains and we only injecting against 7 of these (i'm sure if i'm wrong i will be corrected) but if these figures are right then i fear those that are injecting are (1) wasting their time coz what about the remainding strains that we didnt inject against (2) we'd be opening a big dirty can of worms,

i'm not preaching to not inject i just think in my opinion a good soluble will be just as good as an injection, again jmo

[Guest IB]

If I felt paratyphoid was a problem, and if I could find a reliable vaccine, and if it was freely available for use in the UK, I would vaccinate.

 

Irrespective of the number of strains, a vaccine will help as it will drastically cut down the time taken for the second line of defence, the immune system's antibody response, to kick-in. That usually takes days, but vaccination ensures the body already knows everything there is to know about this infection, and tackles it within minutes? of it being recognised..