Guest joshdonlan Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 I cant wait too much longer, but am trying to delay the urge.
Michael J Burden Posted December 7, 2008 Author Report Posted December 7, 2008 I am thinking about it too.
OLDYELLOW Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 far to early im a tight yorkshireman watching the corn bill ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest joshdonlan Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 but youve got plenty of birds already ;D Im looking for about 30 ybs from 5 pairs :-/
Guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 paired up today racers and stockbirds straw in tommorow
retired Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 Not even thought about it, maybe middle of January when its a bit warmer. We are a little out there at the minute as around half the stock are moving to a friends house for him to breed from so need to allow time for all to settle back down after the move.
Guest anto Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 not till mid jan 2 much troble now way 2 cold save on the corn bill
jimmy white Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 would just like to explain to any new commer on mating up if you race natural , then mate your birds now, they,ll be sitting on their second round about beginning of feb , after sitting 10 or so days , on these second round eggs , they will begin to throw their first flight, then carry on moulting, these birds will be in no state to race in the bigger races in june , july , as they will be far to advanced in the moult ,, just a word of warning to newcommers to the sport, w hood birds do not sit more than 10 days [best being 8 days] on their second round , therefore hold their flights. i am just mentioning this as some newcommers , very keen and meaning well , will pair their racers up now , trying to get plenty yb,s , breeding two or even three rounds ,, these racers if mated and raced will not see more than half the season , because they,ll be too advanced in the moult. so maybe just a thought , for these lads
fletch Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 proble mid jan old man putting pairs down on paper
Guest joshdonlan Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 Hi Jimmy, my birds are stock, not paired yet, but really considering around christmas. When do you pair?
Okitsme Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 would just like to explain to any new commer on mating up if you race natural , then mate your birds now, they,ll be sitting on their second round about beginning of feb , after sitting 10 or so days , on these second round eggs , they will begin to throw their first flight, then carry on moulting, these birds will be in no state to race in the bigger races in june , july , as they will be far to advanced in the moult ,, just a word of warning to newcommers to the sport, w hood birds do not sit more than 10 days [best being 8 days] on their second round , therefore hold their flights. i am just mentioning this as some newcommers , very keen and meaning well , will pair their racers up now , trying to get plenty yb,s , breeding two or even three rounds ,, these racers if mated and raced will not see more than half the season , because they,ll be too advanced in the moult. so maybe just a thought , for these lads Thanks for that. As a novice I did not realise this, lol. I would have just bred them. Would pairing them up on the 1st of Jan be ok? Thank you David
Guest puresoontjen Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 i'm pairing mine up boxing day, but the temptation is setting in i just go out to mates and that don't come back till the second feed if i stay in i no i will end up pairing them.
pigeonman007 Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 Hi Jimmy, Interesting reading as this is my first season breeding / racing. I have been advised to pair up around xmas time. It is my intention to take just 1 round from the birds, this hopefully giving me 16ybs and have been offered ybs from local lads, plus my space is not to great. if I have my calculations right I should have weaned ybs around mid feb time, will these have to be darkened down (darkness) or can I keep them natural?
Tony C Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 Another 6-7 weeks yet before I pair up. A tight southern git here ;D
jimmy white Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 Hi Jimmy, my birds are stock, not paired yet, but really considering around christmas. When do you pair? no probs with the stock birds josh, any time really,, just means your feeding the yb longer, , but with the stock birds you might want to breed more yb,s ,,its really the racers the prob sometimes [cant burn the candle at both ends with them ]
slatey Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 would just like to explain to any new commer on mating up if you race natural , then mate your birds now, they,ll be sitting on their second round about beginning of feb , after sitting 10 or so days , on these second round eggs , they will begin to throw their first flight, then carry on moulting, these birds will be in no state to race in the bigger races in june , july , as they will be far to advanced in the moult ,, just a word of warning to newcommers to the sport, w hood birds do not sit more than 10 days [best being 8 days] on their second round , therefore hold their flights. i am just mentioning this as some newcommers , very keen and meaning well , will pair their racers up now , trying to get plenty yb,s , breeding two or even three rounds ,, these racers if mated and raced will not see more than half the season , because they,ll be too advanced in the moult. so maybe just a thought , for these lads so cant you put naturals on dark then????
just ask me Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 am i the only one that waits till feburary
Guest spin cycle Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 am i the only one that waits till feburary probably the cleverest
jimmy white Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 Thanks for that. As a novice I did not realise this, lol. I would have just bred them. Would pairing them up on the 1st of Jan be ok? Thank you David hi david,, sometimes you can work back the way, with your racers, depending on what type of racing your aim is,, a bird usually [but not allways, with pigeons ] comes into form after its thrown its first flight ,so for the races you intend trying work back [again this is natural im talking about] 10 days on eggs ,, 24 days rearing young,, 18 days to hatch [theyll lay quicker in the summer ,often 7 days ] 14 days laying first eggs ,, all in all if natural ,,about 90 days b4 the races you want to do well in but with w hood its ok to pair and rear ybs at xmas time , but not letting these birds sit longer than 8 days on their second round ,, as they will hold their flights ,,,,,,,,but by mating early , really just means your feeding your yb,s longer, myself , personally would mate w hood cocks up the sat after b pool , these breed good enough darkness yb,s,,, and the cocks [if w hood ] just be ready for the first races ,, and if done properly you can keep these cocks going 10 weeks or so in racing form to varying degrees
hotrod Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 hi i dont pair my stock till late feb my racers late march 1st week in april im only interestedin long distance races
ALF Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 so cant you put naturals on dark then???? I've seen the shutters in your old bird loft Mark :X :X ;D ;D ;D
jimmy white Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 so cant you put naturals on dark then???? how much more darkness could you give them its dark at 3 30 pm now light at 9 am or so really if you want natural birds in condition for the classic races i would pair 90 days b4 them , i would say pair the older birds, destined for these races ,,then [why do fanciers allways say they mate up on ?? why not different times? , so they come in to form different times ]
jimmy white Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 hi i dont pair my stock till late feb my racers late march 1st week in april im only interestedin long distance races exactly what im trying to say ist week april,,, 90 days,,, the classics
ALF Posted December 7, 2008 Report Posted December 7, 2008 how much more darkness could you give them its dark at 3 30 pm now light at 9 am or so really if you want natural birds in condition for the classic races i would pair 90 days b4 them , i would say pair the older birds, destined for these races ,,then [why do fanciers allways say they mate up on ?? why not different times? , so they come in to form different times ] I think Mark mean's that some people race their old birds on the dark Jimmy
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