The pigeons gardian angel

[DOVEScot]

Having spoken to another member on the subject of Eagle owls he noticed this advert

 

http://birdtrader.co.uk/birds/BT33613

 

A breeding pair of Eagle owls, if I had the room and the time I would consider buying them and using them for the benefit of fanciers

1, if you had a problem around your loft, come and fly them in your area to warn off hawks etc

2. Fly them before any liberation's or training exercises where hawks are a nuisance

3. sit them on one of my many trees to ward off local hawks

4. breed them and supply other like minded fanciers that could do the same

 

I know it is against the law to release captive EO into the wild but not illegal to do the above, any thoughts would be welcome

[Novice]

Like yourself I would love a pair of these to keep in an aviery but I wonder what effect it would have on the pigeons.

Would they be happy living close to birds of prey.

[Guest bigda]

that would make a good Christmas present  a bit different from the  puppy :) i wonder if Chris would like  it at his new home by  the  pond,or any needy fancier out there who could look after it  

[DOVEScot]

Like yourself I would love a pair of these to keep in an aviery but I wonder what effect it would have on the pigeons.

Would they be happy living close to birds of prey.

 

I was at a display of hawks and the guy flew a number of different birds, one noticeable difference is how the local feral behaved with the different birds he flew, not a lot with the owls or kestrels etc but when he flew the peregrine or the sparrowhawk they were totally different but it would be worth exploring the matter further first before any purchase :-/

[Novice]

 

I was at a display of hawks and the guy flew a number of different birds, one noticeable difference is how the local feral behaved with the different birds he flew, not a lot with the owls or kestrels etc but when he flew the peregrine or the sparrowhawk they were totally different but it would be worth exploring the matter further first before any purchase :-/

 

What price for the pair?

My wife would prefer budgies

 

 

[naedoos]

Having spoken to another member on the subject of Eagle owls he noticed this advert

 

http://birdtrader.co.uk/birds/BT33613

 

A breeding pair of Eagle owls, if I had the room and the time I would consider buying them and using them for the benefit of fanciers

1, if you had a problem around your loft, come and fly them in your area to warn off hawks etc

2. Fly them before any liberation's or training exercises where hawks are a nuisance

3. sit them on one of my many trees to ward off local hawks

4. breed them and supply other like minded fanciers that could do the same

 

I know it is against the law to release captive EO into the wild but not illegal to do the above, any thoughts would be welcome

 

Think you would be booked solid for spring time Duncan "easily"  

[allenyeates]

Went to buy some young ferrets about 20 years ago. The man selling them kept a Bengal Eagle owl on a long rope in his garden. When I asked him about it he said it was the best method he had come across to keep cats and sparrowhawks away from his aviaries(he kept a large amount of canaries)

[OLDYELLOW]

im sure if they wanted to breed these birds im 100% sure they would get sponsers from a good percentage of pigeon fanciers to breed  

[DOVEScot]

 

What price for the pair?

My wife would prefer budgies

 

 

It looks like £200 for the pair :-/

[DOVEScot]

 

Think you would be booked solid for spring time Duncan "easily"  

 

I dinnae have the time or the space or I would, I was hoping that it might inspire other fanciers. They are magnificent birds

[Guest]

do you  think you would need a pair duncan maybe a pair in each area iam sure we could get plenty of ways to get enough money to buy lots to spread around the country charity begins at home lets use some of the money we give away every year for stuff like this

[DOVEScot]

do you  think you would need a pair duncan maybe a pair in each area iam sure we could get plenty of ways to get enough money to buy lots to spread around the country chatity begins at home lets use some of the money we give away every year for stuff like this

 

It is not getting the birds that would be the problem it would be the people who would take or have the time to look after them and provide a service, another option would be to find out who already have them in our area and hire their services  :-/

[Guest]

well maybe we could help people who would like to have them but cant afford one to buy it for them not nec. fanciers after all if one or two escaped from pigeon fanciers all hell would let loose but if they escaped from a bird of prey enthauiast that would just be bad luck

[DOVEScot]

well maybe we could help people who would like to have them but cant afford one to buy it for them not nec. fanciers after all if one or two escaped from pigeon fanciers all hell would let loose but if they escaped from a bird of prey enthauiast that would just be bad luck

 

I think the R##B would put their propaganda machine into operation and have it killed for the good of the bird as it may starve in the wild  :-/ :-/ :-/

 

Also that would not get as direct an effect as releasing them before training and race libs but it would help long term if they were allowed to survive in the wild :-/

[Guest]

dont disagree with that duncan but at least we would have something to get back at them if they started killing birds also who would want to say they lost a bird once they got established in the wild it would be very hard for even them to justify a cull but i think if  we started to buy them then the price would rocket up so beter  to get as many breeding pairs bought so we could keep the price down

[just ask me]

the best angel a pigeon has is us i spend roughlly 6 hrs of every sunday checking local hotspots and then  doing my own thing simple as its just a matter of getting out there have seen a drastic improvemet over the last year so i know it works  

[ChrisMaidment08]

more talk to go nowere look i can have these birds on 95 aces land owned by our family but as usual this will go nowere  if bred who can say why someone would dare let them loose in wild but it happens with every type of hawk?????? break ins escapes pm would be better to discuss finer points on matter not open forum ;)

[naedoos]

 

I dinnae have the time or the space or I would, I was hoping that it might inspire other fanciers. They are magnificent birds

 

Wow!! how good does that look (both o you's) ;D ;D ;D

 

I know if I had the space a Breeding pair would be here already Duncan, then I would have to make the time.

 

But as you say, if someone in each area had them guarantee'd they would soon make a load of pigeon friends

[DOVEScot]

more talk to go nowere look i can have these birds on 95 aces land owned by our family but as usual this will go nowere  if bred who can say why someone would dare let them loose in wild but it happens with every type of hawk?????? break ins escapes pm would be better to discuss finer points on matter not open forum ;)

 

Is the 95 acres suitable habitat for them Chris

[ChrisMaidment08]

ummmmmmmmmmmmm  yes with open and covered plus big big pond and loads a woods and pld trees to live in in the event of any escapeing from 20ft  20 ftpen and its on direct line flight for all flyers into wales   great for going flying into foresty as well trouble is lots hawks around and would not like owls to get hurt

[Roland]

do you  think you would need a pair duncan maybe a pair in each area iam sure we could get plenty of ways to get enough money to buy lots to spread around the country charity begins at home lets use some of the money we give away every year for stuff like this

 

Frank I keep harping on that tune... seems no one is concerned enough to be personally involved, but like most things, would love some one else to do it for them.

All Clubs should raise funds and buy a pair. Same as all feds.

Local 'Owl Fraternity, would help etc. Or the local Game Keeper.

So what if the odd one escaped... that can't be helped I suppose, can always be replaced.

[ChrisMaidment08]

its easy to get imprinted pair to breed but young would have to be kept sept with minimal sight of owners or you have problems if they escape as they will not hunt  but with pens can catch live foood rats rabbits ect im up fpor it

[Guest bigda]

ummmmmmmmmmmmm  yes with open and covered plus big big pond and loads a woods and pld trees to live in in the event of any escapeing from 20ft  20 ftpen and its on direct line flight for all flyers into wales   great for going flying into foresty as well trouble is lots hawks around and would not like owls to get hurt

 

maybe pigeon BASIC could Sponsor  the up keep of the birds  Â£1,000 per year by direct debit from members  i am sure  the tourist would be interested  in seeing them  

[Guest bigda]

could we have 200 names please,   thats £10 yearly  from bigda,  to who ever takes this  offer up. just add your name to see if this can,  be supported only if  your are serious and would do a direct debit yearly, it must be from a active pigeon fancier only this offer

[DOVEScot]

could we have 200 names please,   thats £10 yearly  from bigda,  to who ever takes this  offer up. just add your name to see if this can,  be supported only if  your are serious and would do a direct debit yearly, it must be from a active pigeon fancier only this offer

 

I think we need organising for Blackpool to push the idea, a separate website as I don't think it would survive just from PB members alone, but a great launching pad for the idea :-/

We had 82 for and 10 maybes on the campaign thread so out of that we need to get £400 to buy two pairs :-/

 

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