Different breed's for different distances

[stiffler]

Hi this is my first post on here i would just like to ask if any of you believe that certain breeds are better for certain distances ie vanreets for sprint and buschaerts for distance just as an example or is it how you prepare your birds for the race they're going to?

[Guest]

;)welcome Stiffler ,i think diffrent bird not necessarily breeds . have heard of many contradiction ie jan -ardens winning sprint , van reets winning at 500 mile . so a lot due to managment by fancier  ;D ;D    andy.

[andrew gooch]

management;feed;weather are all factors in your question

but most important the bird must have the will to win

[andrecrock]

welcome to the site mate,i personaly feel that the smaller the bird the better on the distance,i got some Roland jannsen's that is massive birds good for sprinting.This is my opinion,am looking forward to wat other members say.

[just ask me]

van reets win at long distance but can they be called van reets if there so far down off the origanals  and about distance winning in sprint races it does happen very rarelly where i race distance birds wouldent have a hope of winning as we race up to around 250 mile and i cant rember a distance bird winning in our fed in a long time as our fed  do go futher so there is some distance men there too

[andrew gooch]

the pigeons raced by myself will race for 10 to 12 hours are these known as sprint or distance and have won from 60 to 500 miles

[stiffler]

I agree i do think that it is how you prepare your birds, we've had birds to win at 70 miles doing over a mile a minute and the same bird to come from nantes which to us is 450 miles and do well also, which took it over 10 hours, but on the other hand a lot of fanciers class races under 500 miles to be a sprint race.  

[ribble]

Andrew do you race, Romain Legiest.

[andrew gooch]

yes i do

[ribble]

I once got a strag in from a Gooch in south Wales.

It was a nice bird, he sent for it and i remember him telling me it was a legiest bird of his son's.

Maybe it was your father?

[andrew gooch]

yes i did breed some for him about 10 years ago

he still has some left but he asked for another round this year

were about are you

[ribble]

Lancashire and yes it would of been about ten years ago.

[andrew gooch]

good memory . but back to the subject i think a good bird in the right condition will come good no matter what the distance

[REDCHEQHEN]

Lancashire and yes it would of been about ten years ago.

 

you must have been an elephant in a former life

 

 

 

our 450 mile race this year was a stinker - 14 and a half hours on the wing to take 2nd club - a small 3 year old cock bird

 

*sorry I edited this as I quoted wrong person (dizzy)(kewl)

[ribble]

Good point,sorry.

Stiffler, horses for courses.

[kirky]

welcome to the site mate,i personaly feel that the smaller the bird the better on the distance,i got some Roland jannsen's that is massive birds good for sprinting.This is my opinion,am looking forward to wat other members say.

well i agree with you mate.

 

 

[Guest]

for distance i look for a small bird with a loose wing

for sprint a larger bird with a tight wing

but there are always exceptions to the rule

 

dave

[Guest]

Hi Stifler, welcome. My opinion is that type is more important than strain. Within strains you may get different types. There are on rare occasions birds that will win from 50 - 600 mile, one of the best who did this with the same strain was A H Bennet. But within strains you will get different lines that will do maybe sprint only, or perhaps 50 - 500, and then 500 and above. The Busschaert strain had different lines that had different distance capabilities as do the Van Reets. For me though the strain where birds of the strain name that are out and out sprinters (nto capable of going over 250 miles) will handle different to birds of the strain that will win at 550/600 mile.The Van Reets have certainly proved to be able to get 550 mile. Don't know about the vandenabeeles I know they'll go to 500 but has anyone done well with them at 550 ?

The bottom line for me stifler is the quality of pigeon regardless of strain just my opinion!

[Guest paulrstokes]

Personally I think it is down to type and preperation, the best sprint flier in our club cannot get a bird over 250 miles, breeds a bird for another flyer wins from 527 miles at the age of 2.

 

Same birds just treated differently.

[wilkins]

van reets seem to cover most distances timed 3 on the day from 500 miles last year

[Guest youngzimmy]

  A PIGEON IS A PIGEON IT DISNA KEN IF IT IS A DISTANCE PIGEON OR NO

[thunderboult]

Hi this is my first post on here i would just like to ask if any of you believe that certain breeds are better for certain distances ie vanreets for sprint and buschaerts for distance just as an example or is it how you prepare your birds for the race they're going to?

 

hi stifler, i know some van reets win at the 500 mile stage and some ardens win at 100 mls but if you set out for long distance racing(5-800mls) with a loft of van reets your going to struggle and vice versa if you had a loft full of ardens  . surely if you get the best proven birds at the distance you want to compete you got more chance of success rather than hoping .

[Guest youngzimmy]

the  s gibson strain they never loose

[Guest]

 

hi stifler, i know some van reets win at the 500 mile stage and some ardens win at 100 mls but if you set out for long distance racing(5-800mls) with a loft of van reets your going to struggle and vice versa if you had a loft full of ardens  . surely if you get the best proven birds at the distance you want to compete you got more chance of success rather than hoping .

 

I think we are saying the same thing if you have two pairs of birds that breed winners at 500/700 mile , one can be a van reet, one a Janssen, one a Jan Aarden and one a Van Der Wegen. The problem is if you have 10 pair of van reets it's unlikely that more than 1 or 2 will breed long distance pigeons but you get two pair together that can breed500/700 milers it doesn't matter two hoots the strain name.